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Almost every TV bulletin on Ukrainian people fleeing from the Russian invasion shows, without comment, a packed train about to leave from an eastern city or at Lviv or at the Polish border. Ukrainian railway staff are clearly sticking to their posts and continuing to operate the railway in face of what must be very significant risks to themselves. This piece dated 4th March from Poliitico.eu gives a flavour of what's going on. I salute them, but my question is, can we do anything to help? Making general contributions is OK but does anyone know of a railway-focused route to give support?

https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-bomb-destroy-refugee-train-route-ukrainie-railway/

Russian bombs destroying refugee train routes, says Ukrainian Railways boss​

The war-torn country’s railways are still running, despite increasing damage from bombs and conflict.
LVIV, Ukraine — Russian forces are bombarding parts of Ukraine's railway network making it more difficult to evacuate hundreds of thousands of people attempting to flee the conflict, according to Oleksandr Kamyshin, chairman of state-owned Ukrainian Railways.

"We keep repairing our infrastructure but they keep destroying it," Kamyshin told POLITICO. "We keep repairing it and we do it under fire, but we keep running the trains."

So far, he estimates the company has sent 670,000 people from the war-ravaged center, east and south of Ukraine — along with 11,000 cats and dogs — to the west, either directly to borders or to cities such as Lviv or Uzhhorod that are close to the frontier with the EU.
"We have a daily schedule, updated by 9 p.m. for the next day," he said. "We see which cities are under control and then we go there."

The Russian government insists it is not targeting civilian infrastructure but there is increasingly clear evidence of indiscriminate bombing within cities such as Kyiv and Kharkiv. Meanwhile, Ukrainian Railways is continually sharing photos on the Telegram messaging service of severe damage to passenger rail infrastructure including twisted metal, shattered bridges and unexploded munitions.

On Wednesday morning, Ukrainian Railways said it was prepared to run an evacuation corridor for citizens trying to leave Volnovakha, a town between Donetsk and Mariupol under heavy shelling.

Asked whether the company needs technical support to keep its trains running, Kamyshin said the message was simple — the invasion needed to end: "Make Putin stop the war. That’s the only thing, we will not stop."

The company has now started producing anti-tank hedgehog obstacles while Ukraine International Airlines, the national flag carrier, has offered its stewards to help staff packed trains and stations while there's still a ban on all commercial air traffic, he said.

By Tuesday afternoon, traffic on many trains coming from the east of the country was delayed by at least five hours, though there were still cross-country services coming into Lviv from Lysychansk, in the east, heading for Uzhhorod just a few kilometers from the border with Slovakia. Trains were also still running back east to the center of Ukraine.
Amid a steady flow of people heading west, the focus is also on boosting connections with EU countries. Kamyshin said he had talked over plans to increase the capacity of rail links to Poland with the country's Transport Minister Andrzej Adamczyk late on Tuesday.

There is currently a humanitarian train regularly departing from Lviv's central station toward the Medyka border crossing with Poland, primarily for women and children though some foreigners are being allowed onboard. Those services are packed with people trying to flee the country while on the return leg back to Ukraine the carriages are stocked with water, food and medicine.

"We’re constantly turning them around," Kamyshin said of efforts to up the frequency.

From Wednesday, a free evacuation train running from Przemyśl to Prague will depart nightly at 9:30 p.m., aiming to transit refugees further into Central Europe. On the return leg back to Poland, anyone prepared to fight for the Ukrainian government will be able to get onboard, the company said.

There are also five daily trains running from Kyiv to Przemyśl in Poland and on Tuesday Kamyshin said the company managed to start a separate service over the border to Chelm. At the outbreak of the conflict, Czech Railways had also offered to provide carriages for use in getting people out of Ukraine.



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Almost every TV bulletin on Ukrainian people fleeing from the Russian invasion shows, without comment, a packed train about to leave from an eastern city or at Lviv or at the Polish border. Ukrainian railway staff are clearly sticking to their posts and continuing to operate the railway in face of what must be very significant risks to themselves. This piece dated 4th March from Poliitico.eu gives a flavour of what's going on. I salute them, but my question is, can we do anything to help? Making general contributions is OK but does anyone know of a railway-focused route to give support?

https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-bomb-destroy-refugee-train-route-ukrainie-railway/





I wasn't sure where to post this - mods please move if needed - and I did search to see if there is a thread about this already and couldn't find one.
Apparently the majority of evacuees have been taken away by train. It's a truly extraordinary contribution to the war effort. See this article from The Times today:

The Ukranian drivers that keep the trains running in a war zone​

The Ukrainian railway network has been placed under huge strain by the conflict and is relying on its workers pulling mammoth shifts to keep refugees moving

Andriy Bobrovskiy in the cab of the train he drives between Kyiv and Lviv

Andriy Bobrovskiy in the cab of the train he drives between Kyiv and Lviv

Andriy Bobrovskiy, a train driver, pulled into Lviv central station on Wednesday at 3am after a nine-hour journey from the capital city Kyiv, a convoy of battered blue wagons in tow.

Inside the carriages, displaced civilians waited anxiously to step into the freezing night and continue their journey, the latest in Ukraine’s exodus of people.

Eight hours later the 30-year-old driver was back at the station, an imposing art nouveau building that is a point of convergence for many of the people fleeing to neighbouring countries because of the war.

Inside the small cab he shares with his co-driver, Bobrovskiy drinks coffee and tea and listens to Ukrainian pop music to keep awake as he readies himself to drive the more than 300 miles back to Kyiv to collect civilians. His diet is a combination of sandwiches and biscuits, and an image of St Nicholas watches over him as he heads east with aid and back west with civilians.

Passengers are crowded into carriages at twice or even three times the normal capacity. As a precaution, the trains have been slowed from 50mph to 37mph because if something goes wrong, fewer will get hurt.

Bobrovskiy is one of tens of thousands of staff at Ukrzaliznytsia — the state-owned Ukrainian Railways — who have been working around the clock to shuttle men, women, children and even pets away from the eastern front lines, where cities are being besieged and destroyed by Russian troops.

The country’s vast expanse — Ukraine is as large as the UK and Germany combined — and an unpredictable fuel supply for motorists has made trains the preferred means of transport since the outbreak of war.

More than two million people are estimated to have been brought to safety along the country’s 14,000 miles of tracks, according to Oleksandr Pertsovskyi, the head of passenger operations. Most were rescued from Kyiv and the country’s second city, Kharkiv. In the eight days after the Russian invasion, 58,000 foreigners were transported.

Only two weeks ago, railway tickets for the five-hour journey from Lviv to Kyiv cost as little as £14 for second class and just over £35 for first class. Since the war started, travelling by train is free, although the official Ukrzaliznytsia website still warns that Russian and Belarusian credit cards are not accepted for payment. Attempts to extort payments are being investigated as a serious crime.

The number of operational trains has been increased and the schedules are updated every evening, once the railways’ managers have taken stock of damage inflicted by the Russians during the day. A map issued on Friday morning showed a sea of red ink marking station and line closures deep into border areas to the north and east and adjoining the Black Sea to the south.

“Unfortunately, it is still impossible to ensure compliance with the schedule, so trains continue to move with delays due to operational changes of routes, slowing down near stations with bomb shelters and waiting for a safe window for travel,” the railway announced last week.

As well as evacuating refugees, trains have been used to deliver aid to parts of the country under Russian attack

As well as evacuating refugees, trains have been used to deliver aid to parts of the country under Russian attack

Drivers such as Bobrovskiy have been at the sharp end of these operations, working 14 to 20-hour days to ensure the safe passage of civilians. Before the outbreak of war, train drivers were not allowed to work more than 12 hours.

“They seem lost and really sad that they have to leave their home,” he said of his passengers.

Only three weeks ago, Bobrovskiy was shuttling families on holiday, business executives on important trips and couples on romantic getaways. Today he is responsible for taking civilians out of the Russian line of fire. This means travelling towards conflict areas daily.

“We hear explosions,” he said, standing outside the locomotive in only a woolly jumper on a bitter morning. “It’s fine for us — it’s a normal thing in Kyiv.”

Other drivers have recently been redeployed from their usual duties, driving commuter trains in the Odesa region, after those services had to be suspended.

A girl looks out from a train evacuating her and her family from Lviv railway station to Poland

A girl looks out from a train evacuating her and her family from Lviv railway station to Poland

Bobrovskiy is very matter-of-fact when he speaks of having to guide the train towards the war zone, the long hours of work and not seeing his family as often as he used to.

On Wednesday morning he waited patiently for additional wagons to reach Lviv from the Polish border. After collecting passengers in Kyiv, the extra wagons were scheduled to travel straight to Poland, without stopping in Lviv, as most trains have done until now.

Across the tracks, another driver took refuge from the cold inside the cab of a green locomotive. Yaroslav has been driving trains for seven years but this is the first time he has been responsible for the safety of this many people at once.

“It’s a tragic situation right now, but we have to evacuate people from fascism,” he said from the small window of the train cab.

His job these days is to travel east to the city of Vinnytsia, where a Russian missile attack last week destroyed the civilian airport. There, he hands over the train to colleagues who push further east.

“We have to work. This is our job. We’re doing this every day,” Yaroslav said. He often must slow down and wait for air raid sirens to die down before he can continue. “It’s a little bit harder but it’s our job to evacuate people.”

Women and children on a packed train as they start their journey to flee Ukraine

Women and children on a packed train as they start their journey to flee Ukraine

His colleague, Ihor, has smiling blue eyes and a love of Winston Churchill and anti-Soviet quotes. “Boris Johnson should help us,” he laughs over the roar of the train engines.

“We’re doing what we must in this military situation,” Ihor, 55, said. “You must be responsible to do this job, because it’s very important — it’s all about people’s lives.”

Ihor is due to retire next year but this might not be an option if the war continues.

He speaks loudly before popping his head back into the cab to prepare the train for departure. Every staff member in Lviv is visibly busy, pieces from a puzzle working together to help fleeing civilians reach safety and to send aid and military equipment and personnel east.

In the morning the train took women and children from Kharkiv, in the northeast of the country, and returned at night — “for its brave residents and defenders, the train carries the necessary products and goods”, Pertsovskyi wrote on his official Facebook page.

Crowds waiting on the platform at Lviv station on a day when only two trains were running

Crowds waiting on the platform at Lviv station on a day when only two trains were running

On the return journeys, carriages are stuffed with food, medicine and supplies for children: in the first week of March, the trains delivered 470 tons of such aid to the Kharkiv region and 2,450 tonnes to Kyiv. Images posted by Pertsovskyi on his social media account show wagons overflowing with aid expected to be delivered on Wednesday to Kharkiv.

Pertsovskyi is relentlessly upbeat, boarding trains before dawn to criss-cross the country on morale-boosting staff visits.

One typically defiant posting shows video filmed from the cab as the train barrels through open countryside. It carries the caption: “Location: somewhere in the expanses of our powerful network, which cannot be stopped by savage attacks.”

He is already looking forward to peacetime, when he says the railways will resume their plans to introduce electrification and new intercity services. On Friday he declared: “The company is already developing a plan to transport the population home after the end of hostilities.”
 

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I've been sent these pictures apparently from the Kupiansk border station between Kharkov and Russia:
 

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While passenger trains have evacuated refugees out of the country to neighbouring countries, the Ukrainian military have, as the photos seems to indicate, destroyed a number a railways that cross into Russia.

One of the many evident faults in the Russian invasion has been the over-reliance of rail logistics. This video is quite a good explainer - no other military in the world is as well equipped to ship material by rail, but perhaps obviously this strategy only works as long the field of conflict has functioning railways.

 

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The invasion has also (understandably) impacted UZ's plans for new EMUs, as reported by IRJ:

UKRAINIAN Railways (UZ) has cancelled a Hryvnia 31.4bn ($US 1.18bn) tender for a fleet of 80 suburban and regional trains launched last year. UZ said that the tender will resume at an increased pace following the end of hostilities in the country.

The tender was launched in October, with the aim of ordering 30 25kV ac electric trains, 30 3kV dc suburban trains and 20 25kV ac regional trains for delivery in 2026. The deadline for submissions has been extended several times, with UZ stating in October that this was due to the active interest of potential bidders, requests from the bidders for additional time to prepare tender documents and price proposals, and the desire of UZ to provide comprehensive answers to questions from bidders.

UZ said it had invited Siemens, Stadler, Alstom, Pesa, Skoda, Kryukiv Carriage Plant and others to participate.

UZ said in a statement on March 10 that the Russian invasion of Ukraine has shown how critical railway infrastructure is to the country’s functioning.

The operator had said that more than 90% of its suburban electric fleet is life-expired. As part of a cooperation by UZ with German Rail (DB), DB Regio participated in reviewing the technical specifications for the new fleet.

UZ also planned to Hryvnia 100bn scheme to purchase and upgrade 45,000 wagons by 2028.

 

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It's difficult to tell how much of the network is operational, with Russian forces advancing in all areas.
The report the OP quotes is now 10 days old and much has changed since then.
There are two main rail routes west from Kyiv towards Lviv and Poland, a northerly one via Korosten and Shepetivka and a more southerly one (which initially doubles as a route to Odesa) via Vynnytsya and Ternopil.
The northerly route passes through Irpin which has been badly shelled by the Russians, and I suspect it will be out of action.
Most of the damage in the west so far has been to military and airfield sites rather than civilian infrastructure.

I thought Putin would seize the Donbas (ie all of Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts), as that was seemingly the limit of the separatist demands.
But it looks like he wants the whole country, whatever the level of destruction.
One other limit might be the old Austrian Empire border of Galicia east of Lviv, but no-one so far wants to talk about any partition of Ukraine.

The scenes at Lviv and Przemysl stations are difficult to absorb from a humanitarian point of view.
I have visited those places in peaceful times, and it is incomprehensible what is happening.
At least on the Polish side there is real help and kindness on view.
But the prospects for the men left behind in Ukrainian cities seem bleak.
So far I haven't seen any destruction of orthodox cathedrals, which are culturally significant to both sides.
Otherwise, the prospects for the population are looking depressingly similar to those of 1941.
 

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It's difficult to tell how much of the network is operational, with Russian forces advancing in all areas.
The report the OP quotes is now 10 days old and much has changed since then.
There are two main rail routes west from Kyiv towards Lviv and Poland, a northerly one via Korosten and Shepetivka and a more southerly one (which initially doubles as a route to Odesa) via Vynnytsya and Ternopil.
The northerly route passes through Irpin which has been badly shelled by the Russians, and I suspect it will be out of action.
Most of the damage in the west so far has been to military and airfield sites rather than civilian infrastructure.

I thought Putin would seize the Donbas (ie all of Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts), as that was seemingly the limit of the separatist demands.
But it looks like he wants the whole country, whatever the level of destruction.
One other limit might be the old Austrian Empire border of Galicia east of Lviv, but no-one so far wants to talk about any partition of Ukraine.

The scenes at Lviv and Przemysl stations are difficult to absorb from a humanitarian point of view.
I have visited those places in peaceful times, and it is incomprehensible what is happening.
At least on the Polish side there is real help and kindness on view.
But the prospects for the men left behind in Ukrainian cities seem bleak.
So far I haven't seen any destruction of orthodox cathedrals, which are culturally significant to both sides.
Otherwise, the prospects for the population are looking depressingly similar to those of 1941.
Lviv is still functioning as a city. We have outsourced IT staff there who are working normally. There is electric, internet, and the shops are open.
VERY different to E Ukraine I think.
 

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Still remember the Kiev train arriving at Berlin Lichtenberg. Just heard today an empty passenger train was shot at in eastern Ukraine. One staff died. That does remind one of WWII.
 

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From the german DSO-forum, but here above D-martin will surely also have read:
Indeed major town as transit centre is Lviv. From there trains-unscheduled-when ready to fill up-to first town in PL, Przemysl. There change to normal gauge PKP with several daily extra refugee trains to other Polish regions. Efforts to clear a long disused minor railline (I guess the one that went partly across UA) for re-use. but a dieselset over it derailed. There are also now more regular extra trains direct from Krakow or otjher PL towns into DE=Germany, where main station in Berlin acts as
Besides this major crossing also via Cop into Hungary-trains into SK not running, refugees rerouted via roadposts-this being more practical for Slovak authorities.
It seems indeed that ALL junctions with lines into Rossya are destroyed-as reports have stated also any collaboration with RZD stopped.
Also another major line to ROmania, from the end of line at Izmail connecting boat to first point in RO.
Another major country to get many refugees is MOldova, but as railline to there from Odesa passes Russ-inclined Transdnjestr, not sure about situation.
It is however not really true that most go by train-by car and bus is by far the largest number.
Here in NL_Utrecht main station were 2 Red Cross staff members at platform with yellow/blue shields awaiting any arriving refugees and giving assistence.
PL, DE, NL, DK, BE, AT, HU and RO/trains now offer free passage to refugees-they get special tickets for that in PL/DE or just show ID/passpt.
 

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I can't answer the OP's question, but people may be interested in this video from YouTuber 'Bald and Bankrupt' showing his journey out of Ukraine on Feb 25th/26th:
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I suppose some might criticise him for going there in the first place at a time like this and taking up space on the train, but I think there's a good case for saying that this is outweighed by the documentary value of his video.
 

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In more peaceful times, more than 1 million people a day rode the trains of the Kyiv Metro. The three-line network, which was the third-largest subway system in the former Soviet Union, boasts underground stations decorated with marble friezes, mosaics, chandeliers and vaulted ceilings.

Since the Russian invasion of Ukraine began on Feb. 24, those stations have also served as emergency shelters for an estimated 15,000 Kyiv residents, who bed down on platforms and in hallways after service ends to give people refuge once the city’s curfew begins at 7 p.m.

Kyiv’s 52-station system, which opened in 1960, was designed to deal with situations like the one in which the Ukrainian capital now finds itself — even if its architects might never have imagined the source of the current threat.

Tweet from the Kyiv Independent (15th March):

Ukrzaliznytsia to nationalize Russian freight wagons in Ukraine under the recently adopted law allowing the seizure of Russian property in Ukraine.

Oleksandr Kamyshin, the acting head of the state railway operator Ukrzaliznytsia, said that there are 15,000 of them in Ukraine.

Before the war, it was the official city app to buy tickets for transport and pay for parking or utility bills in the Ukrainian capital.

Now Kyiv Digital has been transformed into a life-saving tool that warns of air raids, and directs people to the nearest bomb shelter or garage with petrol supplies.
 
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The BBC have just posted an interview with the head of the Ukranian Railways. It discusses the challenges of keeping a railway network running during a war, and how he has to keep on the move to avoid becoming an easy target for the invading forces.

 

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For those on LinkedIn you should follow Oleksandr Pertsovski, CEO for Ukrainian Railways. He provides regular updates on what his amazing staff are doing. Today's update is a mixture of sadness and professionalism above and beyond the call of duty.

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"It's a harsh reality of a wartime. Everything has its cost. And yet I can't accept it. Price paid for >2.5 million people evacuated is measured now not in train-kilometers, not in diesel or electricity consumed... it's measured now in lives lost and employees wounded to keep evacuation programme running.

My fellow colleague Nataliya Babicheva (49 years old) was on her shift heading to the city of Lyman in Donetsk region onboard our evacuation train to pick up desparate passengers. Humanitarian coridor was about to get open for people escaping heavily bombarded areas. Most of those people were in the shelters for 2 weeks, lacked basic food and medicines and had very gloomy prospects....

Suddenly, evacuation train became a target or simply was near another target. Multiple shell fragments have hit our train rail cars. Nataliya was next to her husband Anatoliy who works on the same train crew. She got killed immediately - no chance to hide, no chance to escape. Another 27-year old colleague was wounded.

Speaking to the husband who lost his wife on her duty and right next to him just hours before - was, perhaps, most challenging experience for me. What gave me strength - I was myself on that same route where we sent our train just days before. We were in Lyman ourselves - never putting our frontline staff into the risk we woudn't take ourselves.

...there is no price if one's life is lost, there is nothing that makes pain less intense. And yet, that day 2,500 people were evacuated from Lyman area which gives us confidence to continue, confidence not to stop despite heavy toll...train was running westwards, 2,500 people including hundreds of young kids were heading to safety, many smiled for the first time in weeks. Of 22 train crew members 19 were coming back."
 

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There's a gauge-change (standard to Russian or v.v.) at the Polish-Ukrainian border which makes it complex and slow to operate through trains.
There is just one exception - the modern Broad Gauge Metallurgy Line which runs across southern Poland from the border almost to Katowice, which allows mineral trains from eastern Ukraine to run directly to steelworks in Polish Silesia.
The line in Poland is principally for freight but has carried limited passenger traffic in the past since Soviet times.

I wondered if this line was being used for refugee trains, and it seems it is.
So although most arrivals are processed at Przemysl where Russian gauge ends and standard gauge begins, with good passenger facilities, it's good to see the Metallurgy line is contributing to the humanitarian efforts.
Since the 28th of February, 2022 special passenger trains carrying refugees from Ukraine following the Russian invasion on their country are being run to Olkusz, where a tent town has been established to accommodate them before they continue travel by standard gauge rail or by road

Olkusz is a town half way between Krakow and Katowice, well into southern Poland.
Ukraine had recently started electrification work to the border from Kovel, but no doubt that work has stopped.
The line in Poland seems to be a mix of old Russian-gauge routes dating from Tsarist days, with some new linking construction from the 1970s.
The line surely also provides a route for the export to Ukraine of military and humanitarian support, without being exposed and delayed at the main border crossings.
There's also scope for something similar at the Ukraine-Slovakia border where there is another cross-border broad gauge freight line at Uzhhorod, to Košice.
 
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Kind of ironic that one of the reasons for construction of the Metallurgy Line (according to Wiki) was to aid rapid deployment of Soviet troops towards the Iron Curtain.
 

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So although most arrivals are processed at Przemysl where Russian gauge ends and standard gauge begins, with good passenger facilities, it's good to see the Metallurgy line is contributing to the humanitarian efforts.
Przemyśl and Chełm are the two major destinations for trains, although it's very surprising for me that Chełm didn't/doesn't have an international station with border crossing facilities like Przemyśl and Terespol do. It seems that they simply set up very informal facilities within the station itself to handle the border crossing.
 

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Doesn't the Chelm crossing just handle the Warsaw-Kyiv sleeper service (in normal times)?
Przemysl has the Wrocław-Kyiv sleeper but also hosts the two popular daytime UZ express EMUs from Kyiv which terminate there.
 

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There is no longer a railway connection between Ukraine and Belarus, so the Russian occupiers will not be able to deliver Russian equipment by rail from Belarus.

Source: Oleksandr Kamyshin, head of Ukrzaliznytsia [Ukrainian Railways], on Nastoyaschee Vremya (TV channel created by Radio Svoboda and Voice of America).
 

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It looks like the latest issue of RAIL magazine (March 23-April 5), which is out today, includes an article on all of this:

  • Ukraine: The heroic railway staff helping refugees to flee a war zone

 

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Related but not related directly to this thread: VR has announced that it will suspend Allegro trains between Helsinki and St Petersburg from Monday 28 March. One train is also cancelled on Sunday.
 

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Tweet from the Kyiv Independent:

54 railroad workers killed since start of Russia’s full-scale war against Ukraine.

Chairman of the Board of Ukrzaliznytsia Oleksandr Kamyshin said via Telegram on March 26 that an additional 64 have been injured, and three held captive by Russian forces.

Thursday 31st March:

 
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Thursday 31st March:

Very interesting article thanks for sharing. It was interesting to read about how they're planning on expending their capacity westwards to reduce long term their dependence on the Black Sea. I wonder if we might start to see some re-gauging or some standard gauge tracks extending into Ukraine? Perhaps a line as far as any freight yards around Lviv for instance so that they can deal with any transhipment or bogeying there and the trains can then run directly to Poland and not stop other than for any border formalities?

I've been seriously impressed by Ukrainian Railways and the resilience of their staff and equipment. It seems like basically the only thing that stops them serving part of Ukraine is when Russian troops have taken control of all rail routes. Otherwise even if the area they are going to is under direct attack they keep on going. But then again I suppose that's just true of Ukraine in general.
 

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I wonder if we might start to see some re-gauging or some standard gauge tracks extending into Ukraine?

There are or were plans to build a standard gauge line from Poland to Lviv and eventually Kyiv.

Meanwhile a new service between Lviv and Chelm started on 25th March.

71 railway employees have now been killed.
 
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There are or were plans to build a standard gauge line from Poland to Lviv and eventually Kyiv.
Aha interesting! Signed just before war broke out so who knows what will happen with it now. But you'd think the imperative behind it would be stronger if anything. But perhaps funding will be an issue, then again good scope for an "Marshall Plan Mk2" type funding arrangement I'd suggest on such a project.
Meanwhile a new service between Lviv and Chelm started on 25th March.
Not sure the return journey is at a particularly popular time though! Still impressive that they're launching new services in the current situation.
 

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Rail lines in Austrian Galicia, ie Krakow to Lviv and 100km or so onwards towards Kyiv, were standard gauge as far as the then Russian Empire border, until WW1.
They were regauged during Russian advances in WW1, put back to standard gauge by inter-war Poland, and finally broad-gauged by the Soviets after WW2.
There is still something like 15km of dual gauge (one line of each gauge) on two routes either side of the UA-PL border.
One of these reaches Przemysl station on the Polish side but I think the standard gauge has been largely out of use recently.
Most of the transhipment facilities near the Medyka border crossing seemed to be out of use in 2019 when I passed through.
There are also two operational broad gauge cross-border lines which extend well into Poland and Slovakia.
There were built for freight use, but there is some evidence of passenger use during the refugee crisis, avoiding the congestion near the border.
 

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ARTE(franco-german equivalent of BBC4) have made a documentary about the rail staff running supply trains into warzones in Ukraine.

It's only in German or French, but the automatic subtitle translation should work.

Unfortunately the German team have made an error in the title which will annoy anyone involved in German railways - they referred to the driver as a "Zugführer", which actually means "Guard" :rolleyes:
 

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I was wondering how he got there, and imagined a secret RAF flight under military control, minimising his time in the war zone.
But probably the airfields are cratered and liable to attack, and the train was the safest way in and out.
An aircraft with the British PM on board might also have also been a juicy target for Russian cruise missiles.
The Austrian chancellor Karl Nehammer was in Kyiv the same day and the EU's Ursula von der Leyen the day before, presumably all with official protection.
Once Boris is back, maybe there will be more coverage.

From what I can make out, Rzeszow is the main airport in that region of Poland and the focus of military support to Ukraine.
Przemysl, 87km down the line, provides the main rail access into Ukraine.
 
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