Unadvertised Through Services

[Dai Corner]

We're familiar with services being artificially split mid-journey to comply with drivers' hours regulations. Destinations are typically shown as 'Town A for Town B', the number doesn't change and timetables often say 'connection guaranteed, no need to change buses'.

Recently I was on the Stagecoach South Wales X3 Abergavenny-Pontypool which continued to Cwmbran and Newport as a 23. The driver was relieved at Cwmbran. Conversation between other passengers confirmed that this is a booked working. We weren't required to re-scan our concessionary passes.

I'd be interested to learn of any similar workings.

 

[Ken H]

Kirkby Lonsdale Coach Hire Skipton - Lancaster. 81/82, 581, 580. Through buses but separate numbers.
Link to timetable of dalesbus site - https://www.dalesbus.org/uploads/1/1/3/9/113919127/craven_connection.pdf

 

[markymark2000]

We're familiar with services being artificially split mid-journey to comply with drivers' hours regulations. Destinations are typically shown as 'Town A for Town B', the number doesn't change and timetables often say 'connection guaranteed, no need to change buses'.

Recently I was on the Stagecoach South Wales X3 Abergavenny-Pontypool which continued to Cwmbran and Newport as a 23. The driver was relieved at Cwmbran. Conversation between other passengers confirmed that this is a booked working. We weren't required to re-scan our concessionary passes.

I'd be interested to learn of any similar workings.

Strictly speaking, you should rescan passes as it's a different journey. Companies are losing so much money doing this.

 

[kijeta]

Geographically close to the X3 is Nick Maddy's through running of 34 -> 40 -> 34 services (Monmouth -> Ross -> Greytree -> Ross -> Monmouth). The driver barely rests in Ross on Wye at the change of route, and doesn't kick passengers off between them. A 34 Monmouth -> Ross ticket is also valid on the entirety of the 40 journey, but bizarrely, that doesn't work the other way round, so Greytree to Monmouth passengers (I admit, I don't know if they exist) will have to pay twice, while Monmouth to Greytree passengers only have to pay once.

 

[Jordan Adam]

At Stagecoach Bluebird the Elgin Town Service 34 interworks with the hourly short working between Inverness and Elgin on the 10. Additionally the Peterhead Town Services 81 & 84A/84C and 82 & 83 interwork to allow driver changeovers on the 83 and 84A/84C near the depot.

 

[Darklord8899]

In Edinburgh, there is one service 34 journey that operates Heriot Watt to Semple Street then continues as a X33 to Newtongrange

 

[WM Bus]

9 & 436 Wolverhampton through to Shrewsbury. When I did this lots stayed on without having to scan/show there ticket/or pay again.
8 & 297 Kidderminster through to Telford.
7 & 82 Wolverhampton through to Wollaston Farm.

 

[miklcct]

We're familiar with services being artificially split mid-journey to comply with drivers' hours regulations. Destinations are typically shown as 'Town A for Town B', the number doesn't change and timetables often say 'connection guaranteed, no need to change buses'.

Recently I was on the Stagecoach South Wales X3 Abergavenny-Pontypool which continued to Cwmbran and Newport as a 23. The driver was relieved at Cwmbran. Conversation between other passengers confirmed that this is a booked working. We weren't required to re-scan our concessionary passes.

I'd be interested to learn of any similar workings.

A few morebus routes are through services as shown on PDF timetables, but the electronic data don't show them as such. These include 16/17 interworking at Bournemouth, or the peak-hour through journeys of X3/X6, which runs as X6 north of Ringwood and X3 south of it.

For the 16 / 17 case, the PDF timetable doesn't show the through times with just a note saying that they run through at Bournemouth, as all departures are scheduled to run as through working. For the X3 / X6, the complete through working is shown on the X6 PDF timetable because X3 serves all the locations with X6 service south of Ringwood.

I have never taken the through X3/X6 service through Ringwood. And on the through 16 / 17 services, I normally just sit on board while the bus runs through but at one occasion the driver told me to rescan my ticket.