Unlawful Use of SJPN by Train Companies for Section 5(1) RoRA Prosecutions

[mrmartin]

The problem is also that I imagine most people getting done for ticket offenses are probably on the younger side and tend to be much more transient at that age - eg uni students. Don't know how they plan to find people's current address really? Unless they have emails or phone numbers?

 

[psmith2023]

Had a letter through the post saying I have one of this fines made null and void payed nearly 450 in fines how long does it take to get payed back days weeks or months

 

[island]

Had a letter through the post saying I have one of this fines made null and void payed nearly 450 in fines how long does it take to get payed back days weeks or months

Piece of string unfortunately

 

[cacarr]

PM sent

The gov.uk page was updated 21st March. I believe the new bits are:



https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/train-company-prosecutions/train-company-prosecutions

Kind of amazed no-one has come on here with one of these letters as I am sure we would all like to see one. I spotted someone who looked like they must have got one on twitter but they never responded to me.

Ask and thou shall receive

 

[furlong]

It says "Because of the age of the offence" - it's worth adding that Northern said that even if it wasn't out of time to restart proceedings, it wouldn't do so.

 

[KirkstallOne]

Ask and thou shall receive

Brill thanks, seems like you must have had a letter before that saying it was being looked at?

 

[furlong]

It's worrying that they are continuing to take enforcement action. Shouldn't they have a capability to put it immediately on hold? At the very least, shouldn't they have provided instructions about what to do if enforcement action reaches a critical point where immediate intervention was required?

 

[KirkstallOne]

It's worrying that they are continuing to take enforcement action. Shouldn't they have a capability to put it immediately on hold? At the very least, shouldn't they have provided instructions about what to do if enforcement action reaches a critical point where immediate intervention was required?

The convictions must all be 9 months old at minimum so any enforcement is well underway I imagine.

 

[cacarr]

Brill thanks, seems like you must have had a letter before that saying it was being looked at?

Nope, first I heard of it.

And thank you for all your efforts!

 

[KirkstallOne]

Nope, first I heard of it.

And thank you for all your efforts!

You’re very welcome!

 

[furlong]

Nope, first I heard of it.

We'd be interested to hear briefly about what happened originally and which offence it was e.g. RORA 5(2) of which you cannot be guilty if you provided your name and address.

There's also a continuing lack of coordination if all the people receiving these letters and only finding out about the whole mess now hadn't also received letters inviting them to make submissions to the ORR's review! I hope the ORR at least contacted some sample of the people directly otherwise there's a risk the review will be missing certain key perspectives...and a further review may be needed to fill the gaps!