Fantastic newsIt’s been confirmed there is no injuries ---
I'm not surprised after the very heavy rain we had here for an hour this afternoon. It looks like the bank has slipped on both sides. of the tunnel mouth.
Would appear to be 1M66 https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C86503/2020-08-27/detailed.
A 1Z99 is on the down line on Traksy.
Crikey, look at the steam coming from that. Must be due to the water shorting the 750V out.
I think the photo in the original post is looking towards London, (and have now confirmed that checking on YouTube), and the incident units (heading north) are stopped just beyond the other portal. But you’ll need to expand the image to see it.I'm not sure if it is steam, personally thinking it's a thumb/hand print smudge from inside the back cab of the xc voyager that was involved and pic taken by rear unit TM.
I think the photo in the original post is looking towards London, and the incident units are just beyond the far portal. But you’ll need to expand the image to see it...
Don;t think the angle is right for it to be a back cab picture. Look more like someone standing in the 4ft.
I'm not sure if it is steam, personally thinking it's a thumb/hand print smudge from inside the back cab of the xc voyager that was involved and pic taken by rear unit TM.
You mean the Voyager went over that hump covering the track on the left and kept all its wheels on the rails? Blimey, defo new trousers required!!That certainly is taken in the four foot - the image would be too low down to be taken from the rear cab of anything (the voyager involved is in the distance). The rain we had here in North Hampshire was that strong and heavy yesterday that half of my garden was under around 2 inches of water, add in the fact that Winchester city centre had some flooding as well and that gives you an idea of the amount of rainfall sustained in this area.
I have to say though that both Network Rail Wessex and Paul Clifton’s Twitter feed’s have both been rather informative over the past 24 hours.
It may well be that more came down between 1M66 passing over, and the photo being taken. Difficult to know how the incident progressed. What I’m saying is: had the landslip happened before the train reached the tunnel, or was it happening as the train reached the tunnel.
Incidentally, does anyone know where the Voyager went from Wallers Ash Loop (Eastleigh?) and how it got there? (towed? or under its own power?)
Looks like there has been another potential slide. The 20mph ESR is now over two miles long.
You mean the Voyager went over that hump covering the track on the left and kept all its wheels on the rails? Blimey, defo new trousers required!!
Stonehaven was going round a corner, this one looks like pretty straight track.I appreciate that this is just speculation, but I do wonder how this landslip will have compared with the one outside Stonehaven and also what factors caused the HST to derail where the Voyager did not
Stonehaven was going round a corner, this one looks like pretty straight track.
Looks like there has been another potential slide. The 20mph ESR is now over two miles long.
Jeez, that will be painful.
Unless you compare like for like exactly it would be very difficult to say. As @Meerkat said, at Stonehaven the train was going around a bend whereas here it appears to have been going pretty much straight on. That means that the forces involved aren't comparable. They may well have lifted a comparable amount, but the direct of the momentum in this case was parallel to the rail where at Stonehaven a component will have been tangential.I was thinking more about the size, depth, shape and composition of the slip more than the track arrangements, and what it is about this that seems to lift the front of HSTs but not Voyagers so much.
Unless you compare like for like exactly it would be very difficult to say.
As @Meerkat said, at Stonehaven the train was going around a bend whereas here it appears to have been going pretty much straight on. That means that the forces involved aren't comparable. They may well have lifted a comparable amount, but the direct of the momentum in this case was parallel to the rail where at Stonehaven a component will have been tangential.
Do your sources provide a similar number of examples of HSTs hitting comparable obstructions and being derailed?I know from internal sources that they’ve hit a wide range of obstructions and not been derailed.