West Midlands Class 323 - the final countdown

[jonesy3001]

Previous transfers have spent some time on the depot before entering service.

No problem I'll chase the other 323s I need to tick off.

 

[TheTallOne]

Does the Centro unit have any regular diagrams or does it just turn up where ever?

Wouldn't mind getting a photo of it on Monday if it's around.

It's in service today. Was the end of the 0729 of Bromsgrove to Litchfield TV.

So if you can work out the pattern from following the train times...

 

[JW4]

Monday 22 April
323205 2U28 Redditch to Four Oaks

323221+323218 2O30 Lichfield Trent Valley to Bromsgrove

323207+3232?? 2P29 Bromsgrove to Lichfield Trent Valley

323201+3232??? 2P31 Bromsgrove to Lichfield Trent Valley

323222 (demamed) + 323209 2P49 Bromsgrove to Lichfield Trent Valley

 

[RailKnight786]

Seen two more debranded 323's at Soho Depo, whilst on way to Birmingham New Street. I assume in preparation for transfer however didn't manage to get Identification Numbers. Both in full WMR Transitional Livery Debranded.

 

[Geeves]

Just to follow on from RailKnight here's another update from the magic box for 25.04.24

Red - Transfered or on transfer. Grey - long term store

201 + 243 - Four Oaks - Redditch
202 - Wolverton
203 + 219 - Four Oaks - Redditch
204 + 210 - Four Oaks - Redditch
205 - Four Oaks - Redditch
206 - Soho
207 + 217 - Bromsgrove - Litchfield TV
208 - Preston
209 + 222 - Bromsgrove - Litchfield TV
211 - Soho
212 - Allerton
213 + 241 - Bromsgrove - Litchfield TV
214 - Wolverton
215 + 218 - Bromsgrove - Litchfield TV
216 + 342 - Bromsgrove - Litchfield TV
220 - Picc - Stoke on Trent
221 - Soho
240 - Four Oaks - Redditch

 

[jonesy3001]

Just to follow on from RailKnight here's another update from the magic box for 25.04.24

Red - Transfered or on transfer. Grey - long term store

201 + 243 - Four Oaks - Redditch
202 - Wolverton
203 + 219 - Four Oaks - Redditch
204 + 210 - Four Oaks - Redditch
205 - Four Oaks - Redditch
206 - Soho
207 + 217 - Bromsgrove - Litchfield TV
208 - Preston
209 + 222 - Bromsgrove - Litchfield TV
211 - Soho
212 - Allerton
213 + 241 - Bromsgrove - Litchfield TV
214 - Wolverton
215 + 218 - Bromsgrove - Litchfield TV
216 + 342 - Bromsgrove - Litchfield TV
220 - Picc - Stoke on Trent
221 - Soho
240 - Four Oaks - Redditch

Thought 202 went up to allerton on the 18th.

 

[Geeves]

I think maybe it was supposed to but it still seems to be showing at Wolverton at least as far as the computer says, I don't know for certain! When was it supposed to have moved?

 

[Liam L]

Thought 202 went up to allerton on the 18th.

https://flic.kr/p/2pLhQKh - it did

Seen two more debranded 323's at Soho Depo, whilst on way to Birmingham New Street. I assume in preparation for transfer however didn't manage to get Identification Numbers. Both in full WMR Transitional Livery Debranded.

I presume one of these is 206, as it's not allocated in traffic today.

Tuesday 30th April

323207 & 323222
323201 & 323243

 

[wythallpaul]

Tuesday 30th April 2024
323221+323240

323206 Pan up & 323211 Pan down visible on Soho. Another 323 inside the Depot.

 

[childwallblues]

Tuesday 30th April 2024
323221+323240

323206 Pan up & 323211 Pan down visible on Soho. Another 323 inside the Depot.

323209 with 323217

 

[RailKnight786]

Just Travelled back from Birmingham New Street where I can confirm WMR 323's are still active, didn't manage to get identity numbers unfortunately (First two Photo's). But they're currently running a few still. Then when i was en route towards Stockport, (Same Journey Return) in Stoke-on-Trent was 323220 still in full WMR Livery (Debranded) Operated by Northern. Interior is still identical to previous ownership as (Photos I've took below show, no major changes). Photos show WMR in New Street and Northern running EX-WMR (323220) in Stoke-on-Trent to Manchester Piccadilly.

 

[Liam L]

Tuesday 30th April 2024
323221+323240

323206 Pan up & 323211 Pan down visible on Soho. Another 323 inside the Depot.

I believe there was a path for 206 to leave on Monday. However it was cancelled at the request of the operator.

 

[Stokesy]

Still some running today….

Chasing Trains: Last of the 323s and converted HSTs

 

[JW4]

Thursday 2 May
323204+323219
323243+323201
323209+3232??

 

[87015]

Is there a finished 350s thread?

 

[JW4]

323242 also out today

 

[diligentdave]

323206 & 323209 will be the next ones heading North on 13th May. No visit to Wolverton for these, straight to Allerton.

 

[Liam L]

323206 & 323209 will be the next ones heading North on 13th May. No visit to Wolverton for these, straight to Allerton.

Looks like 206 has already been stopped for transfer, hasn't been out for a week or so now. 209 out today.

Is there a finished 350s thread?

Not im aware of, no 350/2s have been stood down yet.

 

[Class15]

Not im aware of, no 350/2s have been stood down yet.

there was one, it got locked due to inactivity.

 

[Liam L]

Saturday 4th May:
323205 & 323218

Sunday 5th May:
323241 & 323242
323207 & 323222

 

[Geeves]

Here's how its looking today from the magic box

206 is back on its last hurrah it seems after thoughts towards it being stopped.

201 + 243 Four Oaks - Redditch
202 - Allerton
203 + 216 till 0740 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove
204 + 219 - until 0950 204 now spare at NS?
205 + 218 - Four Oaks - Redditch
206 + 217 - Four Oaks - Redditch
207 - Four Oaks - Redditch
208 - Preston
209 +203 from 0924 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove
210 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove
211 - Soho
212 - Preston
213 + 215 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove
214 - Wolverton
216 + 203 till 0740 - 216 now at Soho
219 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove
220 - Stockport CS
221 + 240 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove
222 - Four Oaks - Redditch
241 + 242 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove

 

[thealexweb]

Is the 13th May move definitely going ahead? Northern are desperate daily. Shortforming all over today.

 

[Liam L]

Here's how its looking today from the magic box

206 is back on its last hurrah it seems after thoughts towards it being stopped.

201 + 243 Four Oaks - Redditch
202 - Allerton
203 + 216 till 0740 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove
204 + 219 - until 0950 204 now spare at NS?
205 + 218 - Four Oaks - Redditch
206 + 217 - Four Oaks - Redditch
207 - Four Oaks - Redditch
208 - Preston
209 +203 from 0924 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove
210 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove
211 - Soho
212 - Preston
213 + 215 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove
214 - Wolverton
216 + 203 till 0740 - 216 now at Soho
219 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove
220 - Stockport CS
221 + 240 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove
222 - Four Oaks - Redditch
241 + 242 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove

Id presume every unit which is available will be in used this week due to their being no 730s being scheduled to be used this week on the cross city.

206 by the looks of it was stopped for tyre turning i think.

204 was sent back to Soho this morning due to a issue with a passcom apparently I've read on a group chat.

 

[Geeves]

Is the 13th May move definitely going ahead? Northern are desperate daily. Shortforming all over today.

As far as 323s up here (in Northern land) goes there seems to be more parked today then in service so it seems the shortage is DMU vs EMU, just from observations here today!

 

[TBSchenker]

As far as 323s up here (in Northern land) goes there seems to be more parked today then in service so it seems the shortage is DMU vs EMU, just from observations here today!

I've seen the Man Vic - Wigan NW Chat Moss service as a DMU several times recently, and Allerton usually has several 323/331s parked up. Wonder of ot is an imbalance of where the EMUs are, as in Manchester area has a shortage.

 

[Liam L]

As far as 323s up here (in Northern land) goes there seems to be more parked today then in service so it seems the shortage is DMU vs EMU, just from observations here today!

11 out of 21 of Northern 323s are not use today according to PTS blog. That includes all 4 ex WMT units https://partimespotter.wordpress.com/2024/05/07/class-323-allocations-07-05-2024/

 

[childwallblues]

11 out of 21 of Northern 323s are not use today according to PTS blog. That includes all 4 ex WMT units https://partimespotter.wordpress.com/2024/05/07/class-323-allocations-07-05-2024/

Even before Northern withdrew all of the 319s there always seemed to be a lot of 323s on Allerton Depot.

 

[Liam L]

Looks like 215 & 218 have formed the 22:50 Birmingham to Coventry this evening and will stable till Thursday before forming 5O06 back to Birmingham.

Realtime Trains | 5O06 0624 Coventry to Birmingham New Street | 09/05/2024

Real-time train running information for 5O06 0624 departure from Coventry to Birmingham New Street on 09/05/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[Jamesrob637]

The 07:10 Hazel Grove to Manchester Piccadilly was a DMU vice 323 on Monday, but commuter numbers were probably low to non-existent that day.

 

[py_megapixel]

The 07:10 Hazel Grove to Manchester Piccadilly was a DMU vice 323 on Monday, but commuter numbers were probably low to non-existent that day.

Isn't that a regular allocation? I thought the Hazel Grove terminators had to be DMUs because the stock interworks with Buxtons at Piccadilly.