londonteacher
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Curious, who would you currently vote for and why?
I have absolutely no idea!
I have absolutely no idea!
That's my issue too!Right now none, I couldn't bring myself to support any of them.
Same here.Right now none, I couldn't bring myself to support any of them.
That's the thing. I'm the same. I couldn't bring myself to vote Labour currently as Kier Starmer isn't strong enough to lead a country.Would you vote for somebody who you most agree with, even if they are not going to win, or for somebody you can bear and who just might win, or for somebody you are not keen on but who is most likely to defeat somebody you really dislike? It is all a compromise, but the problem with our system is that an awful lot of votes are wasted. I am an ABC voter: Anyone But Conservative, although I won’t touch UKIP/Brexit/Reform (or whatever they are called now).
I also believe in always voting, but I made an exception for the PCC elections. I found myself in the the strange position of agreeing with someone called Blair (former Metropolitan Police Commissioner Ian Blair) who said that he hoped people wouldn’t give them legitimacy by voting in the elections.I always vote, even for PCC elections!
Yes i find them a pointless position but i just have the voting habit. There was only 15% of the electorate in the last election who joined me.I also believe in always voting, but I made an exception for the PCC elections. I found myself in the the strange position of agreeing with someone called Blair (former Metropolitan Police Commissioner Ian Blair) who said that he hoped people wouldn’t give them legitimacy by voting in the elections.
The problem with doing that is that the results will be skewed towards extreme candidates. It seems likely that the SNP will hold an Indyref without Westminster approval, which will therefore be constitutionally illegitimate, and if such a thing is held, I don't know whether to dignify it with a vote or not. What will happen, of course, is that lots of unionists will boycott it, and it'll end up being about 99.99999999% Yes on a small turnout. What's the best outcome? I don't know.I also believe in always voting, but I made an exception for the PCC elections. I found myself in the the strange position of agreeing with someone called Blair (former Metropolitan Police Commissioner Ian Blair) who said that he hoped people wouldn’t give them legitimacy by voting in the elections.
Voting for the wafer-thin trade deal we got was a practical necessity. If Labour had voted against the ERG could have used it as an opportunity to dump us out with no agreement at all. There's no cloak of red involved, just an unwillingness to push the country off an even bigger cliff.I would for Labour but in recent times the party seems to support some of Johnson's decisions, such as the recent Brexit trade deal, only in a cloak of red. I feel that both parties have failed for this country as of now and if continues in that direction would result in the country voting for more extreme parties. Would I be surprised? Probably not.
Agreed. Much as I hate the deal we've ended up with, if there was a realistic chance of it being defeated, No Deal was the only alternative. It was far too late to pressure the government into doing anything else, and the maths just didn't add up.Voting for the wafer-thin trade deal we got was a practical necessity. If Labour had voted against the ERG could have used it as an opportunity to dump us out with no agreement at all. There's no cloak of red involved, just an unwillingness to push the country off an even bigger cliff.
Curious, who would you currently vote for and why?
I have absolutely no idea!
Exactly. Even with the PR element in Scottish elections, my vote is useless, as there's no way I'm supporting the SNP. You can pin a yellow rosette on a dog turd around here and it'll get elected.I'll (continue to) abstain - I'm in a totally impregnable Tory seat and I have no intention of voting for them, so - to be honest - why waste my time?
The list vote is always worth voting in. There's very few regions with a completely clean sweep, and even if there is right now, there's always the chance of another candidate sneaking.Exactly. Even with the PR element in Scottish elections, my vote is useless, as there's no way I'm supporting the SNP. You can pin a yellow rosette on a dog turd around here and it'll get elected.
Lib Dems have been relatively anti lockdown, and have voted against some of the major measures. It might be the best way to send that message, rather than abstaining or voting for Farridge. Best to check the individual candidate positions first though I guessAs all the major parties appear to support lockdowns I think I'd struggle to vote for any of them
Agreed. Labour just seem to be in a mode of trying to bring in tougher measures purely because they're tougher than what the Tories are doing.As all the major parties appear to support lockdowns I think I'd struggle to vote for any of them
I put abstain but in practice I'd try to establish if any of the candidates were against lockdowns and vote for them.Lib Dems have been relatively anti lockdown, and have voted against some of the major measures. It might be the best way to send that message, rather than abstaining or voting for Farridge. Best to check the individual candidate positions first though I guess
Precisely sums up my position as well.I face a genuine problem here, in that I live in Scotland and I am opposed to Scottish independence.
I'm desperate to see the SNP out of power, but short of an absolutely catastrophic scandal occurring anytime around now, it's not going to happen. I've normally voted Labour or Green all my life, but the only party that will realistically stand much of a chance of stopping the SNP juggernaut is the Tories - even then they'll come a very, very distant second.
I've had to think if I can actually stomach voting for them once, simply because they're pro-union and will do better than Labour, but I honestly can't. Absolutely no way. It's not happening. After ten years of blatant cruelty, corruption, incompetence and the horror of Brexit, there is no way I can do it.
Sigh. Looks like the country is breaking up.
How safe would it be if, for example, several hundred or more people who felt the same way as you do actually voted?I'll (continue to) abstain - I'm in a totally impregnable Tory seat and I have no intention of voting for them, so - to be honest - why waste my time?
(And I haven't even mentioned the biodiversity crisis, either...)
Political parties (with seats that is) do benefit from your vote even if its a safe seat they have no chance of winning in as vote share is part of the formula used for short money which they get from the state for operational costs.I'll (continue to) abstain - I'm in a totally impregnable Tory seat and I have no intention of voting for them, so - to be honest - why waste my time?