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Wilko's goes into Administration

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johntea

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Mod Note: Posts #1 - #50 originally in this thread.

Not looking good for the ongoing Wilko issues


Embattled retailer Wilko has filed a notice of intention to appoint administrators after failing to find investment.
In a statement, Wilko said that, while it had had a “significant level of interest, including indicative offers that we believe would meet all of our financial criteria to recapitalise the business… we don’t today have an offer that provides necessary liquidity in the time we have available”.
The retailer pointed to “mounting cash pressures we’re faced with” as the reason for appointing administrators today.
 
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Not looking good for the ongoing Wilko issues


Definitely not good. Wilko's is a really useful chain - in my experience there's generally nowhere better for general household goods - would be very sad to see that go.

On the (very minor) upside, it's a plus for the railforums expertise... I'm sure it must be at least a year ago that it was being suggested on this very thread that Wilkos were in trouble. (But with 111 pages of posts to wade through, I don't plan to go back and find where those posts were).
 

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Definitely not good. Wilko's is a really useful chain - in my experience there's generally nowhere better for general household goods - would be very sad to see that go.

On the (very minor) upside, it's a plus for the railforums expertise... I'm sure it must be at least a year ago that it was being suggested on this very thread that Wilkos were in trouble. (But with 111 pages of posts to wade through, I don't plan to go back and find where those posts were).

Its been discussed here previously by others but i went into Wilko in Maidenhead last week.
It was really depressing with large gaps on shelves and very few products.
Only 1 staffed checkout was open with all self service ones closed.

In both wycombe and Maidenhead wilko the staff are always really good and efficient, feel sorry for them
 

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This news explains why over the last few months my local Wilko has ever expanding empty shelves.
Just like the one in Stafford, then. Can't even get basics like lubricating oil, tomato food etc. The empty spaces on the shelves are all too evident, the self-service checkouts are all shut, and there's only one manned checkout at any given time. Would be a real pity to see it go as it has been my go-to shop for general housewares for ages.
 

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Just like the one in Stafford, then....
As you can see from my profile I live in Rugeley only a short distance away. I'm in Stafford regularly and Wilko Stafford is always a go-to shop for whatever the Rugeley Wilko hasn't got. Not anymore it appears.
 

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Oddly, I went in my nearest Wilko today (Canterbury). Two checkouts staffed (first time I've seen that for some time) and the shelves I went too seem pretty well stocked (recently I've struggled to buy items they had plenty of today. I'm afraid I have done little to relieve their 'mounting cash pressures'.
 

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Definitely not good. Wilko's is a really useful chain - in my experience there's generally nowhere better for general household goods - would be very sad to see that go.

On the (very minor) upside, it's a plus for the railforums expertise... I'm sure it must be at least a year ago that it was being suggested on this very thread that Wilkos were in trouble. (But with 111 pages of posts to wade through, I don't plan to go back and find where those posts were).
I'll save you the bother. Eleven months ago Wilko announced they were delaying supplier payments to preserve their cashflow, so the writing was on the wall.
 

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We normally get our cat litter delivered from Wilko but sounds like we might need to change.
 

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I’d be lost without Wilkos. Cleaning products, shower gel, dog treats, garden seeds, stationary, toothpaste. The list is endless. Such a handy shop to have on the High Street to pop into on a break at work to pick up one or two bits without having to stop at a super market on the way home. Come to think of it, it’s probably the only shop on the High Street I do use.

Not seen any supply issues in our local Wilkos at all, alert from not having WD40.
 

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It will be a shame to see Wilko go. Even if there was not a branch in Croydon I had belatedly got used to them in other Towns like Bournemouth then Cardiff. I really think their absence will leave a hole in the high street provision. Better than Poundstretcher, B&M and Homebargains etc. But probably squeezed by them. Once the shelves started getting empty the downward spiral was set to begin.
 

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Definitely not good. Wilko's is a really useful chain - in my experience there's generally nowhere better for general household goods - would be very sad to see that go.

On the (very minor) upside, it's a plus for the railforums expertise... I'm sure it must be at least a year ago that it was being suggested on this very thread that Wilkos were in trouble. (But with 111 pages of posts to wade through, I don't plan to go back and find where those posts were).

I'll save you the bother. Eleven months ago Wilko announced they were delaying supplier payments to preserve their cashflow, so the writing was on the wall.
It was at least as far back as September 2018, in post #451, though the timescale predicted there was overly pessimistic, suggesting 2019 for Wilko's demise.

There was a Wilko's very close to my workplace which I used frequently, as I too thought their balance of quality and price was good. Since retiring I've rarely been in one as I don't have a convenient branch, but I'd be sorry to see them go if they can't be rescued.
 

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A couple of years ago, I visited the Wilko store in Cleveleys and shelves empty, just gave the impression that they’d given up
 

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The BBC has an interesting article about Wilko (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66394238), which is a store I admit I've never been to myself, but it looks like it tried to partly fill a gap left by Woolworth.
I thought an interesting observation was that "attempts to modernise stores with self-service tills have struggled" and I empathise with this - I hate the things, but the point is that if a large number of your customers think this then it's a potentially bad thing to do.

By Vishala Sri-Pathma & Lora Jones
Business reporter

Selling pick 'n' mix, stationery and even garden tools: Wilko has styled itself as a budget UK homeware chain for more than 90 years.
With 400 stores across the UK, the chain is well-known for its affordable everyday items.
But the High Street stalwart has warned that it is on the brink of collapse, putting some 12,000 jobs at risk.
We went to a Wilko in London and also asked customers on social media what they thought about the chain and what had gone wrong. The people we spoke to did not want to share their photo or surname.
Alex, a communications professional who lives in Wimbledon, says he'd be "gutted" if Wilko disappears altogether.
"It's where I get my pick 'n' mix before the cinema. I always find it great value, and really good on stuff like detergent," he said.
The business was founded in 1930 when JK Wilkinson opened his first store in Leicester. Then, it was called Wilkinson Cash Stores and by 1939 a total of nine stores had opened.
It expanded across the Midlands initially and by the 1990s became one of Britain's fastest-growing retailers.
James, a construction professional, remembers the first Wilko store in Leeds: "My dad loved it - a brilliant location at the Arndale Centre in Headingley. It sold such a wide range of things."
But Stephen from North Tyneside says it doesn't have everything he wants.
"We only go in for specific items. It's good for washing up powder. It's not what it was, I don't think," he said.
In 2012, Wilkinson began rebranding its stores as Wilko, after its own-brand products marketed under the Wilko name. By 2014, most stores had emblazoned the new name on storefronts.

Woolworths gap​

Although the brand is beloved by Brits, Richard Lim, boss of the Retail Economics consultancy, said: "Sadly, sentiment doesn't ensure commercial success."
Wilko stepped into the High Street gap left by the collapse of Woolworths in late 2008, but has struggled over the past decade partly due to growing competition from the likes of Poundland and B&M.
Wilko's sales were larger than B&M's a decade ago, but now they are one-third of its competitor's. Its sales have also fallen below Poundland, Home Bargains, and The Range.
Some analysts have pointed out that rivals seem to offer similar goods at lower prices.
"The competition is a lot more fierce in non-food now, particularly in the discounted bit of the market, compared to five years ago," said Mr Lim.
"But also from our research demand for homeware is taking a backseat - it's almost like that surge during the pandemic for items like lamps, cushions etc has taken away from present day sales."
Retail analyst Catherine Shuttleworth said the typical Wilko customer tended to be very focused on price.
"I think what we're seeing is a lot of love for the brand - but unfortunately love doesn't pay the bills, and customers are being drawn to competitors."
Ms Shuttleworth added: "I don't think we'll see Wilko disappear from the High Street, but it could look very different in the future."

Too many stores?​

The discount chain has 408 stores across the UK, many of them in High Street locations in traditional town centres.
While these locations are convenient for shoppers without cars, since the pandemic there's been a shift to bigger retail parks and out-of-town options with more space.
Charles Allen, retail analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence, says that the locations of Wilko stores have been a bit of a turn-off for some customers.
"B&M has also moved many of its locations to retail parks which are more convenient for many consumers, especially when they are buying bulky goods."
Richard Lim says Wilko's focus on the High Street has not helped it keep up with rivals.
"B&M and Homebargains have really invested in their stores - and since the lockdowns in the UK, customers are really after that shopping experience.
"Wilko has also struggled to join up their online and in-store operations - it's not as smooth as it could be," he added.
Attempts to modernise stores with self-service tills have struggled, said Catherine Shuttleworth, and made the shopping experience "quite frustrating, particularly for the older customer that will traditionally shop at Wilko".
But some customers feel Wilko is one of the last bastions holding on amidst a decline of the High Street.
One shopper told the BBC that she would be "very upset" if the town lost its Wilko store.
"It's a bit like the old Woolworths and it would be a huge loss - not everyone likes online shopping,"

Empty shelves​

Wilko has already borrowed £40m from the restructuring specialist Hilco, cut jobs, rejigged its leadership team and sold off a distribution centre as it faced a cash squeeze after falling to a loss.
Shoppers have noticed gaps on shelves after Wilko struggled to pay suppliers and at least one credit insurer withdrew trade cover, prompting some companies to pause deliveries.
Richard Lim added: "It meant that they didn't have the cash to stump up for products... and it turns the retail business on its head."
In this instance it looks like the chain might not have had deep enough pockets to get through another tough trading period - after a pandemic and a cost of living crunch.
 

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The BBC has an interesting article about Wilko (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66394238), which is a store I admit I've never been to myself, but it looks like it tried to partly fill a gap left by Woolworth.
I thought an interesting observation was that "attempts to modernise stores with self-service tills have struggled" and I empathise with this - I hate the things, but the point is that if a large number of your customers think this then it's a potentially bad thing to do.
I like both Wilko and self-checkouts!

They appear to have tried to introduce self-checkouts on the cheap, merely turning the existing tills around to face the customer with no other physical or software changes. This makes for a rather clunky experience compared with the purpose designed checkouts at other shops.

Their click and collect system doesn't appear to check whether the item ordered is in stock at the store so they incur extra cost to send it out from a central warehouse and unnecessary delay for the customer. Compare with Argos .
 

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Their click and collect system doesn't appear to check whether the item ordered is in stock at the store so they incur extra cost to send it out from a central warehouse and unnecessary delay for the customer. Compare with Argos .

Argos have it easy in that respect, because their stock isn’t on the shelves which avoids three issues:

1 - inaccurate book stock data due to theft, errors at the till (item not scanned, barcode not scanning so sold on a dump code etc)

2 - stock is in the shop but in someone else’s basket

3 - robbing Peter to pay Paul if c&c sells the last of the stock

It’s also inefficient to use store stock that’s on the shelves to service c&c as the stock sold is handled multiple times and then more has to be ordered to refill the shelves

As long as you have a short enough lead time from the warehouse, using warehouse stock for c&c orders is best
 

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The BBC has an interesting article about Wilko (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66394238), which is a store I admit I've never been to myself, but it looks like it tried to partly fill a gap left by Woolworth.
I thought an interesting observation was that "attempts to modernise stores with self-service tills have struggled" and I empathise with this - I hate the things, but the point is that if a large number of your customers think this then it's a potentially bad thing to do.
When I discovered Wilko (maybe less than 20 years ago) I eventually realised that Wilko was like Woolworths were back in the 1970s - useful diy and homeware things. Woolworths eventually became an over sized sweet shop with toys and less and less other more household/diy/hobby things. I ceased regularly walking through Woolworths back in the 1990s or thereabouts as there was unlikely to be anything to interest me. Wilko filled that gap despite not being in Croydon - will now be at a loss as we don't even have a proper hardware shop in town.
 

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When I discovered Wilko (maybe less than 20 years ago) I eventually realised that Wilko was like Woolworths were back in the 1970s - useful diy and homeware things. Woolworths eventually became an over sized sweet shop with toys and less and less other more household/diy/hobby things. I ceased regularly walking through Woolworths back in the 1990s or thereabouts as there was unlikely to be anything to interest me. Wilko filled that gap despite not being in Croydon - will now be at a loss as we don't even have a proper hardware shop in town.
There are three independent diy\hardware stores on Addiscombe Rd plus one on Church Street. There is a B&Q, Toolstation and Screwfix on Purley Way. I'm not sure what else you would need.
 

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There are three independent diy\hardware stores on Addiscombe Rd plus one on Church Street. There is a B&Q, Toolstation and Screwfix on Purley Way. I'm not sure what else you would need.
The one on Church Street is not exactly a hardware shop. Over priced cheap stuff. It is very small. It is more like a shop selling plastic goods but it does sell more tools than those sort of shops usually do.

Yes there is the out of town option (B&Q, Wickes, Screwfix and Toolstaton. For me on the bus/train I might as well get to Bromley or Sutton. If a Wilko survives in those places.

Addiscombe road I will have to take a look at not my stampting ground - are they just the standard size small shops ?.

Nothing like Wilko with its household things (the good ladies requirements).

Car stuff will be Halfords - thats less shopping around that I can do.

In fact that is my growing fear with the retail outlets that are dissapearing. A loss of competition - well there is the internet I suppose.
 

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Thats an old list, the Wilko at the Fort closed last year.
That is interesting, the list (timed at 2 hours ago) lists some stores that are listed as closed on the website (Shipley, Woolwich - closed in 2020). some that are listed as being open currently (Rotherham. Merthyr was when I started this), some that are listed as being open (Stockton, Redditch, Llanelli), some that are not listed at all (Grantham). It could be that they have closed a second branch in a town but the website does seem to be disorganised, listing Acocks Green separately but the Maypole under Birminghamn (although that wasn't obvious from a scan of streetview).

I'm sorry for imposing rank bad journalism on you.
 

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That is interesting, the list (timed at 2 hours ago) lists some stores that are listed as closed on the website (Shipley, Woolwich - closed in 2020). some that are listed as being open currently (Rotherham. Merthyr was when I started this), some that are listed as being open (Stockton, Redditch, Llanelli), some that are not listed at all (Grantham). It could be that they have closed a second branch in a town but the website does seem to be disorganised, listing Acocks Green separately but the Maypole under Birminghamn (although that wasn't obvious from a scan of streetview).

I'm sorry for imposing rank bad journalism on you.
If management don't even know which stores they've already closed, what possible hope is there for the business?!
 
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