Woman sliding down tube escalator injures pensioner

[Steveman]

What an idiot, could have killed this pensioner.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/tran...rly-tube-commuter-badly-injured-a3225986.html

A commuter was ‘sent flying down an escalator’ after being hit by a young woman sliding down the central barrier during early morning rush hour.

The passenger was seen to “surf” the middle rail of the downward escalator at North Greenwich Underground Station yesterday morning before clattering into a smartly dressed woman in her seventies.

She was left lying face down on the floor while the younger woman suffered a deep gash to her wrist and hand and was taken to hospital by ambulance.

 

[duncanp]

A later paragraph in the Evening Standard article says:-

“There was an Underground worker standing over the women who could not get up.
She was trying to calm the situation down because an eyewitness had seen what had happened and were saying that the young woman should be arrested, but the guard was saying it was an accident.”

I fail to see how this incident can be regarded as an accident. Whilst the injury to the older woman may not have been intended, that does not excuse it. I do hope the police at least have a word with her.

 

[Steveman]

A later paragraph in the Evening Standard article says:-

“There was an Underground worker standing over the women who could not get up.
She was trying to calm the situation down because an eyewitness had seen what had happened and were saying that the young woman should be arrested, but the guard was saying it was an accident.”

I fail to see how this incident can be regarded as an accident. Whilst the injury to the older woman may not have been intended, that does not excuse it. I do hope the police at least have a word with her.

It was an accident but one that could have been forseen and avoided, it may have been as she was with a group the guard was afraid to say anything negative for fear of having her face punched in.

 

[rebmcr]

It was an accident but one that could have been forseen and avoided

Do you have more information than was in the article?

 

[Steveman]

Do you have more information than was in the article?

Are you saying this incident wasn't avoidable ?

 

[rebmcr]

Are you saying this incident wasn't avoidable ?

No I'm wondering why you said it was an accident.

 

[Steveman]

No I'm wondering why you said it was an accident.

Well if you drove your car drunk and smashed into a person and killed them it's still an accident, just one that could have been avoided.

The idiot woman sliding down I presume never intended to hurt anybody so although the idea was stupid when she knocked the poor woman over that bit was an accident.
I am not in any way trying to justify her actions whatsoever, I'd give her 6 months.

With our justice system being so light in sentencing even if she is done for anything she'll not suffer much.

 

[rebmcr]

Ah I understand what you meant now.

 

[pdeaves]

What an idiot, could have killed this pensioner.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/tran...rly-tube-commuter-badly-injured-a3225986.html

'Interesting' terminology in the article. The injured party is simultaneously a commuter and a pensioner. I know it's possible to be both, but generally an individual is either one or the other (or neither!). We were passengers, then customers, now commuters, regardless of travel type.

 

[Bushy]

It was an accident but one that could have been forseen and avoided

The police no longer refer to road crashes as accidents as most road traffic collisions are avoidable and they, therefore, do not regard them as accidents.

The Oxford Dictionary gives two definitions of accident:
1 An unfortunate incident that happens unexpectedly and unintentionally, typically resulting in damage or injury
2 An event that happens by chance or that is without apparent or deliberate cause

This probably wouldn't fit the second definition.

 

[GatwickDepress]

The London Underground worker was probably trying to deal with the situation. I've said "it's just an accident" before just to stop customers putting in their own two cents or interfere. Focusing on what they said is sort of... needless.

But of course it doesn't stop that fact that playing around on an escalator a pretty reckless and stupid thing to do.

This probably wouldn't fit the second definition.

By that definition, the majority of accidents aren't accidents. I knock a coffee cup onto the floor- I know the cause of it, so it's therefore not an accident.

I'd give her 6 months.

With our justice system being so light in sentencing even if she is done for anything she'll not suffer much.

Six months for playing on an escalator and injuring someone accidentally!? A bit of perspective please!

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Six months for playing on an escalator and injuring someone accidentally!? A bit of perspective please!

I do not normally visit this particular sub-forum but the incident itself must be covered by some railway by-law and I ask for what those that might be that would cover the actions of the young woman in question.

 

[GatwickDepress]

I do not normally visit this particular sub-forum but the incident itself must be covered by some railway by-law and I ask for what those that might be that would cover the actions of the young woman in question.

Maybe 6(2) - at a stretch there -, 6(8), 9(1), and possibly 11(1) of the TfL Railway Byelaws?

I know nothing about byelaws or anything, so I'll wait for someone with actual knowledge to come along.

 

[Busaholic]

Well if you drove your car drunk and smashed into a person and killed them it's still an accident, just one that could have been avoided.

The idiot woman sliding down I presume never intended to hurt anybody so although the idea was stupid when she knocked the poor woman over that bit was an accident.
I am not in any way trying to justify her actions whatsoever, I'd give her 6 months.

With our justice system being so light in sentencing even if she is done for anything she'll not suffer much.

Firstly, a lot of Police Traffic Officers and road safety people say there are hardly any vehicle crashes that can be truly described as accidents - obviously if you are driving on a bridge and there is an earthquake it could be so described, but there are precious few examples of that but driver error, recklessness and dangerous driving accounts for the other 99.9%. Obviously, when the 999 calls are first made and ambulances etc respond they are described as accidents, just as people found lying dead on the pavement covered in blood are not initially described as murder victims, even though a proportion of them will turn out to be so.

As for the sentencing (if any) if she had no ticket then expect a heavy one for that aspect, but for causing serious injury to an elderly passenger, then I regret to say you are probably right.