X Country trains cancelled west of Exeter

[QueensCurve]

Should be fine, given that spray protection is part of the design requirement.

Famous last words.

 

[PHILIPE]

Voyagers currently terminating at Exeter due to high South Easterly winds, with high tide there due at 1750. I was on the 1541 HST from Newton Abbot, and there was definitely spray hitting the side of the train a couple of times even then.

There is a thread here:-

http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=136465

 

[D1009]

Actually one of the first test runs of the IEP to Plymouth happened to coincide with similar conditions as tonight at Dawlish. There was no problem.

 

[PHILIPE]

Actually one of the first test runs of the IEP to Plymouth happened to coincide with similar conditions as tonight at Dawlish. There was no problem.

Good. Must have been designed right.

 

[Cowley]

That is good.
Unfortunately we're still stuck with Voyagers too

 

[AnthonyRail]

Good. Must have been designed right.

That's why Japan where chosen to design

 

[PHILIPE]

And again during the evening today. Voyagers cancelled, HSTs run through. May be a little over cautious today as, although the Inshore Waters forecast states strong/gale force winds, the wind itself is changing directions to come from south and then west rather than from the east.

 

[najaB]

Famous last words.

Well, Agility Trains won't get paid for the diagram if they break down.

 

[urbophile]

The title of this thread sounds like one of those Meaning of Liff definitions. 'I'd wrap up well if I were you, it's right dawlish weather today.'

 

[Busaholic]

Glancing at the Western Morning News today, some clown from Cross Country said that as their trains travelled all the way from Penzance to Aberdeen and they only ever encountered this problem at Dawlish, then it was OK to ask their passengers to transfer to GWR services at Exeter or wherever! Given the huge ticket prices being charged for most journeys, this seemed to me a foot-in-mouth comment. Was he saying that perhaps if the North Sea suddenly engulfed Alnmouth as well. then perhaps there might be cause for complaint

 

[BestWestern]

Glancing at the Western Morning News today, some clown from Cross Country said that as their trains travelled all the way from Penzance to Aberdeen and they only ever encountered this problem at Dawlish, then it was OK to ask their passengers to transfer to GWR services at Exeter or wherever! Given the huge ticket prices being charged for most journeys, this seemed to me a foot-in-mouth comment. Was he saying that perhaps if the North Sea suddenly engulfed Alnmouth as well. then perhaps there might be cause for complaint

An alternative spin might have been to suggest it was providing welcome relief to masses of passengers wedged into vestibules for half the length of the country! Indeed he might have commented that actually the displaced punters should think themselves lucky XC don't charge them a 'comfort levy' for being offered the last stretch of their journey in comparative luxury!

*The above sarcasm is based on the GWR being an HST, and does not apply when squeezed into a 2+3 seated 150/1 *

 

[Blindtraveler]

Given that GWR's advances on that stretch look quite good to me Id happilly change train for the sake of saving a few quid!

 

[Hornet]

That's why Japan where chosen to design

Probably took their cue from the designs of the HST.

 

[Master29]

Seems XC rely on GWR when the weather goes breasts up at Dawlish. Another notch in the voyagers are faeces thread material.

 

[infobleep]

Would GWR make a lot of money from XC have to offload their passengers on to them? XC having to pay of course and indirectly the passengers.

 

[PHILIPE]

Probably took their cue from the designs of the HST.

I wonder if XC get penalised for the cancellations or do they try and argue that the problem is the weather rather than their unsuitable traction

 

[185143]

I wonder if XC get penalised for the cancellations or do they try and argue that the problem is the weather rather than their unsuitable traction

Knowing Arriva as well as I do (from a passenger perspective)....

 

[221129]

Would GWR make a lot of money from XC have to offload their passengers on to them? XC having to pay of course and indirectly the passengers.

It's in GWR's interest to take the XC passengers and have the voyagers terminate at Exeter.

 

[infobleep]

It's in GWR's interest to take the XC passengers and have the voyagers terminate at Exeter.

Why is it in their interests? In case one breaks down. Surely if that happened XC would have to pick up the costs.

 

[najaB]

Why is it in their interests? In case one breaks down. Surely if that happened XC would have to pick up the costs.

True. But they would still have irate passengers to deal with. It's not *all* about the money.

 

[221129]

Good luck to anyone using XC services tonight and tomorrow west of Exeter. 1V64 & 1V66 caped at Exeter tonight, and 1V68 due to be delayed awaiting tide to drop. Also looking like no Voyager services until about 1400 tomorrow along the sea wall. Still awaiting the amended train plan.

 

[PHILIPE]

Good luck to anyone using XC services tonight and tomorrow west of Exeter. 1V64 & 1V66 caped at Exeter tonight, and 1V68 due to be delayed awaiting tide to drop. Also looking like no Voyager services until about 1400 tomorrow along the sea wall. Still awaiting the amended train plan.

A little surprising as the Inshore Waters forecast states winds south/south westerly rather than from the vulnerable east.

 

[221129]

At 40-50mph...

 

[221129]

Well amended plan is out and looks like no full cancellations just starting/terminating at Exeter

 

[dave87016]

Yep just as I'm travelling back home in morning thanks cross country I'm always jinxed when i travel

 

[221129]

Yep just as I'm travelling back home in morning thanks cross country I'm always jinxed when i travel

Which train are you supposed to be on?

 

[dave87016]

10:07 ex Paignton to Man Piccadilly

 

[dave87016]

Says it's due to start from Bristol and not Exeter that service

 

[Blindtraveler]

I wouldnt fancy being on any of the Plymouth bound or return XC HSTs tomorrow iether.

 

[221129]

Re the 1007 Paignton to Manchester
This is the info I have


Customers are to travel forward on Great Western 2F21 10:21 Paignton - Exeter St Davids then CrossCountry 1S47 11:24 Exeter St Davids - Birmingham New St and then CrossCountry 1M45 14:31 Birmingham New St - Manchester service.