Railfan132
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Does anyone know whether the Driver's mess room at Brighton and Three Bridges is shared between Southern Drivers and Thameslink Drivers or do they have their own separate mess rooms?
Could I ask whether there is a difference between where the Thameslink drivers, Southern drivers and GatEx OBSs book on?Separate mess rooms.
TL have one on end of platform 1/2 and one down at the Siemens depot
Don’t think they do - whoops!Do Piccadilly sign 153’s?
As far as I'm aware there isn't.Hi does anyone know if there is still a depot at Stratford for London Overground (ARL)?
Most definitely is a depot at Stratford.As far as I'm aware there isn't.
Indeed, it's a satellite of EustonMost definitely is a depot at Stratford.
That's very nice of you , seeing I'm an overground driver and was sitting with four Stratford driver's last night. The booking on point is next to the messroom. There is also a lateral list for transfers to all depots , with Stratford on , under the Euston heading.Oh okay, I didn't see a booking on point when I was there and it isn't in the Driver Depots list by GodfreyComplex either but I will give you the benefit of the doubt.
Sorry, must have forgot to put that one onOh okay, I didn't see a booking on point when I was there and it isn't in the Driver Depots list by GodfreyComplex either but I will give you the benefit of the doubt.
Ah, awesomeThat's very nice of you , seeing I'm an overground driver and was sitting with four Stratford driver's last night. The booking on point is next to the messroom. There is also a lateral list for transfers to all depots , with Stratford on , under the Euston heading.
A few gaps. Usual restrictions apply
TPE Scarborough
68/185
Scarborough - Manchester Victoria incl Calder Valley diversion
York - Redcar Central plus loop
Scarborough TMD
Northern York
150/153/155/156/158/170/195 (perhaps)
Manchester Victoria - Newcastle via Bradford and Elland
York - Leeds via Harrogate
York - Hull via ECML and Church Fenton
York - Scarborough
Northern Harrogate
150/153/155/170/195
Leeds - York via Harrogate
Northern Leeds (May be out of date)
150/153/155/158/170/195/331/333
Link 3
Leeds/Bradford FS/Ilkley/Skipton triangle (core)
Leeds - Manchester Victoria/Huddersfield via Bradford and Elland
Leeds - Knottingley
Knottingley - Mirfield/Wakefield Westgate
Neville Hill and Holbeck depots
Link 2D - add Leeds - York via Peckfield and Leeds - Nottingham (all ways)
Link 2C - add Leeds - York via Peckfield, Leeds - Sheffield (all ways) and Hall Royd - Blackpool
Link 2B - add Leeds - York via Peckfield/Harrogate and Leeds - Doncaster
Link 2A - add Leeds - York via Peckfield, Hall Royd - Blackpool and Knottingley - Goole
Link 1 - subtract Knottingley - Leeds/Mirfield, add Leeds York via Peckfield/Harrogate, Leeds - Nottingham (all ways between Leeds and Sheffield), Leeds - Doncaster, Hall Royd - Blackpool and Skipton - Carlisle
Northern Manchester Piccadilly
150/156/195/319/323/331
Non-link routes are
Oxford Road - Crewe via Stockport and Airport
Piccadilly - Sheffield via Guide Bridge/Bredbury/Hazel Grove (including Rose Hill)
Guide Bridge - Hadfield/Glossop
Cheadle Hulme - Stoke
Longsight, Ardwick and Newton Heath depots (and the CET roads at Crewe)
Now there used to be three links, in very broad terms one went to Preston, one went to Liverpool and one went to Chester. However Piccadilly have picked up more northbound work since I found that out. So it’ll just have to be “link dependent” I’m afraid. I believe that it may still be divided into at least two, the Liverpool link may have been subsumed into Preston but I’m not sure.
The link dependent routes are
Stockport - Chester
Kidsgrove - Crewe
Oxford Road - Windermere/Barrow via Bolton and Chat Moss
Oxford Road - Lime Street via Chat Moss and CLC
Hazel Grove - Buxton
Northern Blackburn
150/153/156/158
Blackburn - Manchester Victoria via Darwen and Todmorden
Blackpool South - Colne
Blackburn - Clitheroe
Preston - Ormskirk
Northern Hull
AIUI Picc crews learned Chat Moss when the 323s started going that way (I don’t believe Vic or Wigan sign them, or if they do it’s a fairly recent development) Barrow/Windermere work started with the 195s, shared with Barrow and possibly Wigan/Blackpool/Vic crew.Wasn't aware Picc drivers signed the Chat Moss route to Lime Street. This was previously the preserve of Lime Street/Man Vic and Wigan. Also surprised to hear that they have picked up Barrow/Windermere work, although I was aware that one link signed Preston via Chorley. Pretty sure Picc Guards don't sign any of the aforementioned.
Thanks for that. Not been able to get to my computer lately but I'll update the list as soon as I can.
It was a certain company council rep empire building.Wasn't aware Picc drivers signed the Chat Moss route to Lime Street. This was previously the preserve of Lime Street/Man Vic and Wigan. Also surprised to hear that they have picked up Barrow/Windermere work, although I was aware that one link signed Preston via Chorley. Pretty sure Picc Guards don't sign any of the aforementioned.
That's very nice of you , seeing I'm an overground driver and was sitting with four Stratford driver's last night. The booking on point is next to the messroom. There is also a lateral list for transfers to all depots , with Stratford on , under the Euston heading.
Quite possibly , yes.ARL are possibly the slowest passenger train company in terms of top speed ?
ARL are possibly the slowest passenger train company in terms of top speed ?
We do indeed run ECS on the wcml at 75. Some of the gob is 55 and the west London line 60.Do they run ECS from Willesden to Euston via the WCML slow lines (and not the DC lines)? If so, they could do 75 there with a good run, whereas Merseyrail has nothing over 70mph (and even that is only one section AFAIK, it's nearly all 60mph max).
Of course there are depots where top speed the drivers based there can get to is lower - I suspect there are several at ARL where the drivers never get over 45mph, and the same is true of SWR drivers at Ryde.
Interesting question.
We do indeed run ECS on the wcml at 75. Some of the gob is 55 and the west London line 60.
After you leave gospel oak , just before you go under the bridge at the last signal before upper Holloway , it's 55 up till the bridge after . Easily hit 60 on the west London line. Pan down at North pole and you have changed over before you even hit the 60 board . You can easily hit 60 leaving Shepherd's bush , before slowing to pan up. As an aside , stock transfers and Clapham terminators that go back to c sidings will see you hitting 60 , just before Kensington Olympia and going straight through the middle road. I had the luxury of that last night.which part of the Gob is now 55 ? Whilst the West London line is 60 surely you never reach that because of the Voltage changeover point ?
I was once offered the chance to run ECS at 75. Very much a night run only and I was told I’d get a nosebleed
ARL are possibly the slowest passenger train company in terms of top speed ?
Horsham do not sign Peterborough SpitalThameslink Horsham:
Traction- Class 700s
Routes- Horsham to Peterborough
Horsham Field Sidings
Three Bridges Depot
Peterborough Spital Sidings
Hertford Loop diversion
East Croydon to London Blackfriars via Streatham and Peckham and via Streatham and Elephant and Castle
Quarry Line diversion