Different Driver Depot, Route and Traction cards

[bluesfromagun]

Done some digging
Barrow and Blackpool did have separate ex- TPE and ex-Serco links but whether they’ve been harmonised work wise or not I don’t know.
Most of Huddersfield’s work is pinging up and down to Bradford and Castleford but whether that’s the full extent of their card or not I don’t know.
Darlington
156/158
As Newcastle except they don’t sign north of Newcastle and they all sign Bishop Auckland and Whitby
Hull
150/155/158/170 maybe a few more traction
Hull - Scarborough
Hull - Sheffield via Selby and Goole plus diversions around Rotherham
Selby - Leeds/York
Doncaster
As Hull, minus Scarborough & Selby - Leeds/York
Plus 331 and Doncaster - Leeds/Scunthorpe
I am trying to find some info on the SPT depots deep in the dark recesses of the forum but up to date info is alas elusive

The SPT stuff I can give you a fairly good idea of, but I'll have missed a few things I'm sure.

Glasgow Central and outlying depots
Glasgow Central - the drivers have links, but there are no surprises in it. They can work everything out of Central (high level only!), but they don't go further South than Ayr or Kilmarnock, or further East than Edinburgh (via Shotts only). Classes 156, 158, 318, 320, 380, 385. The guards do Carlisle, East Kilbride, Edinburgh via Shotts and also via Carstairs. Classes 156, 158, 380, 385.
Corkerhill - Paisley Canal, East Kilbride, Kilmarnock, and Inverclyde stuff (I think). Class 156, 158, 380, 385.
Shields - as with Corkerhill, but with the addition of Cathcart circles & Newtons (I think). Class 156, 158, 318, 320, 380, 385.
Gourock - Inverclyde stuff. Class 318, 320, 380.
Ayr - drivers work South to Girvan, Stranraer, Carlisle, Barassie branch, all Ayrshire electrics, and East Kilbride. Guards go to Girvan, Stranraer, Carlisle, and North to Glasgow Central via Kilmarnock. East Kilbride branch. Class 156 and class 380 (maybe 385).
Stranraer - Glasgow Central via Kilmarnock (no diesels run via Paisley anymore), and East Kilbride branch. Both drivers and guards are the same. Class 156 only.
Dumfries - Carlisle to Glasgow Central. East Kilbride branch. Drivers and guards are the same. Class 156 only.

North electric:
Yoker - Helensburgh to Edinburgh, Balloch branch, Milngavie branch, Bellgrove-Springburn-Cumbernauld-Motherwell, Argyle line, Hamilton circle, Larkhall, R&C. Classes 318, 320, 334.
Helensburgh / Airdrie / Bathgate - Helensburgh to Edinburgh, Milngavie branch, Balloch branch. Classes 318, 320, 334.

Mixed Argyle & North Electric plus mainline
Motherwell - Edinburgh via Carstairs, also via Shotts. Lanark, Larkhall, Hamilton circle, Cathcart circle and Newton, Argyle line, Milngavie branch, Dalmuir to Bellgrove, Bellgrove-Springburn-Cumbernauld-Motherwell, R&C. Glasgow Central via Bellshill and via WCML. Classes 158, 318, 320, 334, 380, 385.

These are obviously rough but fairly accurate. I doubt they have changed much. There are links at the following;
Glasgow Central - bottom links only do DOO routes. Senior link does same with addition of Edinburgh via Shotts, Kilmarnock, East Kilbride, 156 and 158.
Motherwell - bottom link only does North electric / Argyle line work. So Cumbernauld, Springburn, Dalmuir, Hamilton Circle, and Larkhall. R&C. DOO only. Senior link adds everything else, inc 156 and 158.
Yoker - two links, only difference I'm aware of is that one link goes all the way to Edinburgh via Airdrie and the other only goes as far as Airdrie.

Oh and full-time non mainline depot drivers, if you're interested:

Haymarket
Eastfield
Yoker
Shields

ScotRail depots and yards shunted exclusively by mainline drivers;
Corkerhill (Corkerhill, Glasgow Central, Shields)
Motherwell (Motherwell and Yoker)
Clayhills (Aberdeen ScotRail, LNER Edinburgh&Newcastle)
Inverness (Inverness ScotRail and LNER Newcastle)
Dundee (Dundee and Perth)
Perth (Perth)
Ayr (Ayr)
Dumfries (Dumfries and Ayr)

 

[Trogladyte]

Might as well remove GC Blackpool as no longer happening

 

[King Lazy]

R.e Barrow

They have a Blue link. (Ex Northern) and Green link (ex-TPE). They do share and cross-cover work on common routes.

Ex Northern-
Traction: 156, 158, 195

Routes: Barrow to Carlisle.
Barrow to Preston.
Lancaster-Morecambe-Heysham Port
Barrow CS
Workington CS

Ex TPE-

Traction: 156, 158, 195

Routes: Barrow to Manchester Airport
(Via Chorley and Chat Moss)
Lancaster-Morecambe (Not Heysham)
Lancaster-Oxenholme-Windermere
Preston-Blackpool North
Wigan NW-Bolton (via Westhoughton)
Barrow CS

*Ex Northern also signed 142/153 but this may have now lapsed.

*Ex TPE signed 153 but this may have now lapsed.

*Ex TPE also signed Leyland CS when it was open but this has probably now lapsed.

—————
Workington

Traction: 156

Lancaster-Carlisle via Cumbrian Coast.

Barrow CS
Workington CS

* Also signed 142/153 but this may have lapsed

* Around 3 instructors signed the following for stock moves during closures. This may have lapsed

Preston-Carlisle via Shap.
Upperby Bridge Jnc- Currock Junction via Bog Junction.

 

[PHILIPE]

Just noticed. TFW Carmarthen know 153s don't they

 

[craigybagel]

Thanks everyone for keeping the updates going, there's not too many blank spaces left now!

Just an update for GA Norwich. Will have 720 (future) too. Cheers.

Cheers, have added the 720s in.

The SPT stuff I can give you a fairly good idea of, but I'll have missed a few things I'm sure.

Glasgow Central and outlying depots
Glasgow Central - the drivers have links, but there are no surprises in it. They can work everything out of Central (high level only!), but they don't go further South than Ayr or Kilmarnock, or further East than Edinburgh (via Shotts only). Classes 156, 158, 318, 320, 380, 385. The guards do Carlisle, East Kilbride, Edinburgh via Shotts and also via Carstairs. Classes 156, 158, 380, 385.
Corkerhill - Paisley Canal, East Kilbride, Kilmarnock, and Inverclyde stuff (I think). Class 156, 158, 380, 385.
Shields - as with Corkerhill, but with the addition of Cathcart circles & Newtons (I think). Class 156, 158, 318, 320, 380, 385.
Gourock - Inverclyde stuff. Class 318, 320, 380.
Ayr - drivers work South to Girvan, Stranraer, Carlisle, Barassie branch, all Ayrshire electrics, and East Kilbride. Guards go to Girvan, Stranraer, Carlisle, and North to Glasgow Central via Kilmarnock. East Kilbride branch. Class 156 and class 380 (maybe 385).
Stranraer - Glasgow Central via Kilmarnock (no diesels run via Paisley anymore), and East Kilbride branch. Both drivers and guards are the same. Class 156 only.
Dumfries - Carlisle to Glasgow Central. East Kilbride branch. Drivers and guards are the same. Class 156 only.

North electric:
Yoker - Helensburgh to Edinburgh, Balloch branch, Milngavie branch, Bellgrove-Springburn-Cumbernauld-Motherwell, Argyle line, Hamilton circle, Larkhall, R&C. Classes 318, 320, 334.
Helensburgh / Airdrie / Bathgate - Helensburgh to Edinburgh, Milngavie branch, Balloch branch. Classes 318, 320, 334.

Mixed Argyle & North Electric plus mainline
Motherwell - Edinburgh via Carstairs, also via Shotts. Lanark, Larkhall, Hamilton circle, Cathcart circle and Newton, Argyle line, Milngavie branch, Dalmuir to Bellgrove, Bellgrove-Springburn-Cumbernauld-Motherwell, R&C. Glasgow Central via Bellshill and via WCML. Classes 158, 318, 320, 334, 380, 385.

These are obviously rough but fairly accurate. I doubt they have changed much. There are links at the following;
Glasgow Central - bottom links only do DOO routes. Senior link does same with addition of Edinburgh via Shotts, Kilmarnock, East Kilbride, 156 and 158.
Motherwell - bottom link only does North electric / Argyle line work. So Cumbernauld, Springburn, Dalmuir, Hamilton Circle, and Larkhall. R&C. DOO only. Senior link adds everything else, inc 156 and 158.
Yoker - two links, only difference I'm aware of is that one link goes all the way to Edinburgh via Airdrie and the other only goes as far as Airdrie.

Oh and full-time non mainline depot drivers, if you're interested:

Haymarket
Eastfield
Yoker
Shields

ScotRail depots and yards shunted exclusively by mainline drivers;
Corkerhill (Corkerhill, Glasgow Central, Shields)
Motherwell (Motherwell and Yoker)
Clayhills (Aberdeen ScotRail, LNER Edinburgh&Newcastle)
Inverness (Inverness ScotRail and LNER Newcastle)
Dundee (Dundee and Perth)
Perth (Perth)
Ayr (Ayr)
Dumfries (Dumfries and Ayr)

Thanks, thats a useful treasure trove right there!

Might as well remove GC Blackpool as no longer happening

Indeed, duly deleted with much sadness

R.e Barrow

They have a Blue link. (Ex Northern) and Green link (ex-TPE). They do share and cross-cover work on common routes.

Ex Northern-
Traction: 156, 158, 195

Routes: Barrow to Carlisle.
Barrow to Preston.
Lancaster-Morecambe-Heysham Port
Barrow CS
Workington CS

Ex TPE-

Traction: 156, 158, 195

Routes: Barrow to Manchester Airport
(Via Chorley and Chat Moss)
Lancaster-Morecambe (Not Heysham)
Lancaster-Oxenholme-Windermere
Preston-Blackpool North
Wigan NW-Bolton (via Westhoughton)
Barrow CS

*Ex Northern also signed 142/153 but this may have now lapsed.

*Ex TPE signed 153 but this may have now lapsed.

*Ex TPE also signed Leyland CS when it was open but this has probably now lapsed.

—————
Workington

Traction: 156

Lancaster-Carlisle via Cumbrian Coast.

Barrow CS
Workington CS

* Also signed 142/153 but this may have lapsed

* Around 3 instructors signed the following for stock moves during closures. This may have lapsed

Preston-Carlisle via Shap.
Upperby Bridge Jnc- Currock Junction via Bog Junction.

Thanks very much, good to know the current situation with the Northern/TPE split especially!

Just noticed. TFW Carmarthen know 153s don't they

I should hope so - I've handed them over to Carmarthen crews enough times Duly edited

 

[Trogladyte]

What routes do Northern Blackpool drivers sign?

 

[PHILIPE]

Thanks everyone for keeping the updates going, there's not too many blank spaces left now!

I should hope so - I've handed them over to Carmarthen crews enough times Duly edited

Pleasure

 

[kmbfwpa]

Update for GWR Plymouth GWR Drivers.

They sign Plymouth to Par, not through to Penzance.
They also do not sign Newton Abbot to Paignton.
Traction is 150, 158, 800/2

The rest is correct

 

[craigybagel]

What routes do Northern Blackpool drivers sign?

If I knew for certain it would be in the list. I think it's Windermere/Barrow/Blackpool - Manchester Airport for the ex TPE staff and Liverpool, Manchester Oxford Road, Ormskirk, Colne, Blackpool South and Leeds for ex Northern but that's based on very old info back from when TPE and Northern were separate companies. I need more up to date and reliable information before I'll include it here.

Update for GWR Plymouth GWR Drivers.

They sign Plymouth to Par, not through to Penzance.
They also do not sign Newton Abbot to Paignton.
Traction is 150, 158, 800/2

The rest is correct

Cheers, have edited it now.

 

[387star]

Southern Redhill

Redhill to Reigate
Redhill to London Bridge and London Victoria
Redhill to Brighton including Quarry line
Redhill to Horsham
Redhill to Tonbridge

Link 1 sign Bognor via Arun Valley and cross cover for GWR Gatwick to Reading line (Not sure if this still the case )

Imagine they also sign several London diversions and possibly Tatt Corner/Caterham

It's a small hard to get in depot as far as I know

Traction 377 possibly 455

 

[JN114]

and cross cover for GWR Gatwick to Reading line (Not sure if this still the case )

Yes it is, they cover 2 diagrams per day at present. Those drivers thus also have 16x traction.

 

[Galvanize]

Southern Redhill

Redhill to Reigate
Redhill to London Bridge and London Victoria
Redhill to Brighton including Quarry line
Redhill to Horsham
Redhill to Tonbridge

Link 1 sign Bognor via Arun Valley and cross cover for GWR Gatwick to Reading line (Not sure if this still the case )

Imagine they also sign several London diversions and possibly Tatt Corner/Caterham

It's a small hard to get in depot as far as I know

Traction 377 possibly 455

Redhill still go to Caterham and Tattenham, the bottom link for sure! It has taken on Trainees very occasionally, but otherwise it’s considered a “Dead Mans Shoes” depot.

 

[387star]

Redhill still go to Caterham and Tattenham, the bottom link for sure! It has taken on Trainees very occasionally, but otherwise it’s considered a “Dead Mans Shoes” depot.

Do they sign Horsham via Dorking Epsom and Sutton ?

 

[Galvanize]

Do they sign Horsham via Dorking Epsom and Sutton ?

No. They do sign Selhurst to Sutton via West Croydon and Wallington.

I think they may still sign Norwood Junction-Balham via Crystal Palace and Streatham Hill.

 

[387star]

No. They do sign Selhurst to Sutton via West Croydon and Wallington.

I think they may still sign Norwood Junction-Balham via Crystal Palace and Streatham Hill.

Do you know what Three Bridges Southern sign?

I know they sign Bognor via the Arun Valley Tatt Corner Caterham and Norwood Junction to Selhurst via West Croydon as well as London Bridge and Victoria via the mainline and presumably Brighton. Possibly Littlehampton via Hove as well

 

[John Bishop]

Great thread!

Not sure if it’s been posted previously;
Scotrail depots and routes signed.

Perth- Aberdeen, Inverness, Edinburgh Waverley, Glasgow Queen Street.
Aberdeen- Inverness, Edinburgh Waverley, Glasgow Queen Street
Inverness- Aberdeen, Perth, Kyle of Lochalsh, Wick/Thurso.

Traction for all depots above, 158, 170, HST.

 

[FR510]

Southeastern Gillingham Depot

Traction 465, 466, 375, 376, 377

Routes All Metro except Bromley North - Grove Park
London to Ramsgate and Dover via Sole Street
Strood - Tonbridge
Sittingbourne - Sheerness

 

[notadriver]

Ugh

Southeastern Gillingham Depot

Traction 465, 466, 375, 376, 377

Routes All Metro except Bromley North - Grove Park
London to Ramsgate and Dover via Sole Street
Strood - Tonbridge
Sittingbourne - Sheerness

Ugh it’s all stations everywhere

 

[387star]

Horsham southern

Traction 377
Horsham to London Bridge and Victoria via Quarry line and Redhill
Horsham to Victoria via Dorking
Horsham to Bognor and Portsmouth Harbour via Arun Valley
Possibly several south London routes too !

 

[43066]

Ugh

Ugh it’s all stations everywhere

Really? I thought they still had some mainline work, and went down to Ramsgate via the Chathams?

EDIT: and drove the 376s from Slade Green down to Ramsgate for maintenance.

 

[FR510]

Really? I thought they still had some mainline work, and went down to Ramsgate via the Chathams?

EDIT: and drove the 376s from Slade Green down to Ramsgate for maintenance.

Since GTR started the Rainham-Luton service the majority of work is indeed mainline. And yes the 376s from Slade Green to Ramsgate/Gillingham for maintenance purposes.

 

[craigybagel]

Thanks everyone, all duly updated.

 

[Geeves]

A few updates

Blackpool N Ex Northern

Traction. 153, 150, 156, 158, 195, 331

Blackpool N - Liverpool LS via St Helens Central.
Blackpool S - Preston
Preston - Ormskirk
Preston - Colne
Preston - Leeds via Bradford interchange, guards sign to York
Preston - Manchester Victoria via Chorley and Wigan NW
Preston - Manchester Airport via Chorley and Wigan NW

Blackpool N ex TPE

Traction. 156, 158, 195, 331

Blackpool N - Manchester Airport via Chorley and Wigan NW
Wigan NW - Manchester MIA via Golborne Jc
Preston - Windermere

Huddersfield depot

Only guards sign Manchester Victoria

 

[craigybagel]

A few updates

Blackpool N Ex Northern

Traction. 153, 150, 156, 158, 195, 331

Blackpool N - Liverpool LS via St Helens Central.
Blackpool S - Preston
Preston - Ormskirk
Preston - Colne
Preston - Leeds via Bradford interchange, guards sign to York
Preston - Manchester Victoria via Chorley and Wigan NW
Preston - Manchester Airport via Chorley and Wigan NW

Blackpool N ex TPE

Traction. 156, 158, 195, 331

Blackpool N - Manchester Airport via Chorley and Wigan NW
Wigan NW - Manchester MIA via Golborne Jc
Preston - Windermere

Huddersfield depot

Only guards sign Manchester Victoria

Cheers for that, updated.

 

[route101]

Surprised with East Kilbride , with 4 depots on the route.

 

[craigybagel]

Surprised with East Kilbride , with 4 depots on the route.

5 by my count (Ayr, Corkerhill, Dumfries, Glasgow Central and Shields). I suspect though there are two factors here at play: it does have quite an intensive service for a diesel worked branch line, and also the rather strange situation in Glasgow where there are so many traincrew depots in close proximity, with some at traction depots as well as at the major stations - rather then just one massive depot at the cities main station to cover the work as happens in some other cities.

In another thread it was noted that around the UK there are very few driver depots co-located with traction depots - but around Glasgow I can think of at least 4 (Corkerhill, Shields and Yoker for ScotRail and Polmadie for Avanti).

 

[DorkingMain]

South Western Railway

Farnham
Traction:
444, 450, 455, 456, 458 (701 in future)
Routes:
Waterloo to Alton
Waterloo to Basingstoke
Waterloo to Guildford (via Cobham)
Waterloo to Haslemere (via Worplesdon)
Waterloo to Reading (via Hounslow & Richmond)
Aldershot to Ascot
Aldershot to Guildford
Farnham Sheds (London end)

Guildford
Traction:
444, 450, 455, 456 (701 in future)
Routes:
Waterloo to Alton
Waterloo to Chessington South
Waterloo to Dorking
Waterloo to Guildford (via Cobham)
Waterloo to Guildford (via Epsom)
Waterloo to Hampton Court
Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour (via Worplesdon)
Aldershot to Ascot
Aldershot to Guildford
All sidings at Guildford

Woking
Traction:
444, 450, 455, 456, 458, 707 (701 in future)
Routes:
Waterloo to Alton
Waterloo to Ascot (via Hounslow & Richmond)
Waterloo to Basingstoke
Waterloo to Chessington South
Waterloo to Hampton Court
Waterloo to Guildford (via Cobham)
Waterloo to Guildford (via Epsom)
Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour (via Haslemere)
Waterloo to Shepperton/Twickenham (via Kingston)
Aldershot to Ascot
Aldershot to Guildford
Addlestone to New Haw ("Byfleet Curve")
Hounslow to Whitton ("Whitton Curve")
Woking East End siding
Woking Up Sidings
Clapham Yard
Farnham Sheds (London end)

Last I heard Woking + Staines don't do Shepperton anymore. Only Waterloo + Wimbledon + Strawberry Hill.

 

[Flange Squeal]

Last I heard Woking + Staines don't do Shepperton anymore. Only Waterloo + Wimbledon + Strawberry Hill.

Can't confirm Staines, but Woking have indeed now lost Shepperton.

More SWR updates applicable from next month:

Farnham - add 'Whitton Curve' (Hounslow Juncton to Whitton Junction). Learning to commence imminently.

Basingstoke - remove 455 and 456

 

[blackpoolwelsh]

Former TPE also add Lancaster to Barrow in Furness at Blackpool North and only former TPE sign Preston to Manchester via Wigan (Goldbourne Jnc)

 

[Geeves]

Ive been corrected on the Huddersfield drivers, they do sign to Victoria via the Calder Valley both ways via Bradford and Dewsbury