Live broadcast feed from STV on the scene: https://www.pscp.tv/w/cgJwIjk1MjI2OTd8MXlOR2FCZG5Zak5Kao5LzMXhBB24kFgZvM2zioN9J9EiQcUIFsgi9SlDimaJ
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Carmont (near Stonehaven) derailment - 12 August 2020
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Murray J
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looks to be flooding, thoughts go out to everyone caught up in this.
Obviously it is too early to know anything for sure, but one of the issues with landslides is that they can occur suddenly, and in areas that aren't normally susceptible to them, if the conditions are just right. If the early reports are correct, the train passed the location in the up direction without issue, the accident happened when it was on the way back to Aberdeen.
PG
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Tragic news. My thoughts to all persons involved with or affected by this accident.
High Dyke
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Hear, hear. A sad event indeed. Thoughts with all affected or involved.
I’ve heard that it was 43030 and 43140. All the train minus the rear powercar is off the tracks apparently. Some emergency services struggling to get to the scene. Also heard a possibility of a bridge being part of the cause of it.
MK Tom
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Isn't Aberdeen in local Covid lockdown at the moment? That's likely to have reduced demand.
I would expect the number on board to be much lower than 'usual' thank goodness but I am sure the numbers will be available in due course.
Edit: reports suggest 6 passengers.
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Scotrail314209
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Nicola Sturgeon is aware of the incident and has received a report.
Murray J
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yeah a bridge collapse is being reported now, although it is all just speculation.
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Tetchytyke
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Reports on Facebook from a TPE driver I know are that the HST encountered a landslide, went back and was running wrong line when a bridge failed underneath the power car. One fatality and two seriously injured so far.
Naturally it is just speculation.
Naturally it is just speculation.
Unfortunately GSM-R only has 99% coverage and there are blackspots where the signal will drop out for up to 30 seconds when travelling. One area I experience frequently is Entwistle on the Bolton-Backburn line.
bramling
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My thoughts and best wishes to everyone involved both in the incident and rescue.
The_Train
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Absolutely terrible news 
Thoughts with all those involved. You just can't even imagine being caught up in such a horrid situation.
Thoughts with all those involved. You just can't even imagine being caught up in such a horrid situation.
pdeaves
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Network Rail is effectively doing that anyway now around the country. Obviously, there are many constraints limiting how quickly it can be done. Also, certain places might have land ownership issues (do you want to say goodbye to your back garden for the sake of a 'just in case' land alteration, for example). Whether it would have made any difference here, I don't know.
Edit: new thread started https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/weather-resilience.207658/
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The_Train
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Hopefully this is the case. Despite the darkness of the current situation and I appreciate it doesnt make things better for those caught up in it, but it could be one of very few positives of covid that there were fewer people on board because of the lockdown measures
Tetchytyke
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Definitely. Fingers crossed for a speedy recovery.
just seen a tweet saying 3 crew 6 passengers. Hopefully the virus has kept passenger numbers lot lower than normal
If that is the case then, looking beyond the immediate response, we can probably expect the line to be closed for some time.
CheshireCrusty
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If the train was being reversed back to Aberdeen, it must have already passed over the line section where the derailment occurred.
I am sure all our thoughts are with all those involved.
I am sure all our thoughts are with all those involved.
BenW390Fan
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How come coastguard vehicles are being used?
Presumably they would use whatever assistance is available?
Yes, so it must have only just happened
Edit: To clarify see this post, for what I mean:
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/stonehaven-derailment.207648/post-4716804
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He woiuld not know the details, and the last thing on his mind would be a derailment of this magnitude, he will have notified Control, and no doubt the MOM, but they too would not be in a position to do much until it was known what and where !
westcoaster
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All hands on deck, plus experts in extracting people from ravines and so on.
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