Live broadcast feed from STV on the scene: https://www.pscp.tv/w/cgJwIjk1MjI2OTd8MXlOR2FCZG5Zak5Kao5LzMXhBB24kFgZvM2zioN9J9EiQcUIFsgi9SlDimaJ
looks to be flooding, thoughts go out to everyone caught up in this.I'm wondering if it was cause of the heat or flooding, or if it even was weather. Best of luck to everybody involved
Obviously it is too early to know anything for sure, but one of the issues with landslides is that they can occur suddenly, and in areas that aren't normally susceptible to them, if the conditions are just right. If the early reports are correct, the train passed the location in the up direction without issue, the accident happened when it was on the way back to Aberdeen.Perhaps it's time to invest in sensors or something that can detect flooding like this, not sure whether the technology exists yet, it would be quite expensive I'd imagine but if it makes Britain's railways safer then it's good enough
Hear, hear. A sad event indeed. Thoughts with all affected or involved.Extremely sad news. My thoughts go out to all those affected by this incident.
Anyone have an idea how busy this service usually is?
I would expect the number on board to be much lower than 'usual' thank goodness but I am sure the numbers will be available in due course.Isn't Aberdeen in local Covid lockdown at the moment? That's likely to have reduced demand.
yeah a bridge collapse is being reported now, although it is all just speculation.Emergency services are struggling to reach the scene due to a bridge collapse, which may have caused the incident...
Unfortunately GSM-R only has 99% coverage and there are blackspots where the signal will drop out for up to 30 seconds when travelling. One area I experience frequently is Entwistle on the Bolton-Backburn line.Without wanting to speculate too much, the coverage would be 100% on the railway but blackspots may well exist outside the railway boundary.
Network Rail is effectively doing that anyway now around the country. Obviously, there are many constraints limiting how quickly it can be done. Also, certain places might have land ownership issues (do you want to say goodbye to your back garden for the sake of a 'just in case' land alteration, for example). Whether it would have made any difference here, I don't know.I would not be surprised if a subsequent investigation recommends reinforcement of every bank/cutting above a certain gradient and/or height.
I would expect the number on board to be much lower than 'usual' thank goodness but I am sure the numbers will be available in due course.
My thoughts and best wishes to everyone involved both in the incident and rescue.
Anyone have an idea how busy this service usually is?
If that is the case then, looking beyond the immediate response, we can probably expect the line to be closed for some time.yeah a bridge collapse is being reported now, although it is all just speculation.
Presumably they would use whatever assistance is available?How come coastguard vehicles are being used?
Yes, so it must have only just happenedIf the train was being reversed back to Aberdeen, it must have already passed over the line section where the derailment occurred.
surely the signaller will immediately notice a train not moving for 2 hours..
All hands on deck, plus experts in extracting people from ravines and so on.How come coastguard vehicles are being used?