Harry Potter fans fuming after oncoming train blocks Hogwarts Express

[hexagon789]

I think in future I wouldn't be letting people on the platform, it's an accident waiting to happen.
I'd also run a Q train just before it so BTP can nab trespassers.

Do they still run 'Q' trains?

No, "the muggles" built it, the wizards stole it and the muggles were left confused.

I know how they feel!

 

[Trackman]

Do they still run 'Q' trains?

Well they did a couple of years ago.

 

[hexagon789]

Well they did a couple of years ago.

Cheers, not something I've seen mentioned recently so I rather assumed they went out of fashion so to speak. The last I remember seeing the term in current railway news would be about 2005 or so.

 

[Trackman]

Cheers, not something I've seen mentioned recently so I rather assumed they went out of fashion so to speak. The last I remember seeing the term in current railway news would be about 2005 or so.

some news mentions of it in google from 2015/16.

That's crazy crowding. Considering how militant Scotland is on social distancing right now, I'm amazed this was allowed! Madness.

Local government / BTP must have got wind of this, I'm guessing measures will be put in place.
When does it run again?

 

[LOL The Irony]

From what I understand ( based on my expert consultants advice) the train the cognoscenti will know as the Jacobite has become, to many normals, "the Harry Potter train" and I can therefore only assume that by extension any steam train traversing the line known to the train tifosi here as the "West Highland Line" ( but known to many now as "the Harry Potter Line") must, logically, become the "Harry Potter Train".

I trust this will be clear to all those confused by the motive power muggles in the real world.

Correct. The Jacobite suffers from the every red sports car is a Ferrari syndrome. Associated with something it's not via a common link (in this case, being a steam train that crosses the Glenfinnan viaduct).

 

[malc-c]

That spectacular typo for “Bowled” sounds painful...

LOL - whoops - corrected now

 

[6Gman]

I think in future I wouldn't be letting people on the platform, it's an accident waiting to happen.
I'd also run a Q train just before it so BTP can nab trespassers.

Or run it at 3am with no publicity.

 

[2L70]

Interesting point, is the Hogwarts express a separate franchise or Open Access?

As it seems lucrative.. is our Tone off to see the DFT to suggest TPE should run it?

 

[telstarbox]

I cant believe the Kettle got in the way of me trying to film the scotrail unit

Was it calling at LOLlington?

 

[norbitonflyer]

I saw this happen recently at Woking. We were waiting for a connection on Platform 1 (on our way home from a singing engagement in Winchester), and hadn't been aware of any steam specials scheduled that day, but I could see a lot of people with cameras expectantly waiting for something on Platform 2. Checking RTT to see where my train was I saw it was stuck behind 1Z-something-or-other, standing at Brookwood. Shortly afterwards I noticed that the route for the Z-train had been re-set and it was now to run through platform 1, followed by my train, to allow a fast train to call at platform 2. Sure enough, a 444 was standing in Platform 2 when 60103 steamed through platform 1, much to the chagrin of the waiting lensmen. I learned afterwards the unscheduled Brookwood call was to take on water.

I'm glad an A3 was preserved, of course, but why is 4472/60103 somehow elevated in the public view above all other steam engines?

I suspect the headline "Harry Potter fans fuming" really means "Harry Potter fans slightly disappointed". Why the extreme, over the top wording? I know, I know, it's how news 'papers' do things nowadays.

"Fuming" is often used by the tabloids to describe steam enthusiasts, whatever the cause of their annoyance. Similarly, they are described as "chuffed" when it's good news.

 

[philthetube]

When I rode it a few years ago, it was full of Japanese girls who practically had an orgasm when it went over the viaduct.

one to share?

I suspect the headline "Harry Potter fans fuming" really means "Harry Potter fans slightly disappointed". Why the extreme, over the top wording? I know, I know, it's how news 'papers' do things nowadays.

I suspect the kettle would be giving off more fumes that the Muggles.

 

[Ianno87]

I saw this happen recently at Woking. We were waiting for a connection on Platform 1 (on our way home from a singing engagement in Winchester), and hadn't been aware of any steam specials scheduled that day, but I could see a lot of people with cameras expectantly waiting for something on Platform 2. Checking RTT to see where my train was I saw it was stuck behind 1Z-something-or-other, standing at Brookwood. Shortly afterwards I noticed that the route for the Z-train had been re-set and it was now to run through platform 1, followed by my train, to allow a fast train to call at platform 2. Sure enough, a 444 was standing in Platform 2 when 60103 steamed through platform 1, much to the chagrin of the waiting lensmen. I learned afterwards the unscheduled Brookwood call was to take on water.

I'm glad an A3 was preserved, of course, but why is 4472/60103 somehow elevated in the public view above all other steam engines?



"Fuming" is often used by the tabloids to describe steam enthusiasts, whatever the cause of their annoyance. Similarly, they are described as "chuffed" when it's good news.

Reminds me when I stood on Harringay station when Scotsman had its first run out of Kings Cross in British Railways livery (the run in 2015 or so ridiculously affected by trespassers).

I appeared to be the only spotter who bothered to check the timetable to see it was on Down Slow 2, and got a very lovely photo too...

 

[High Dyke]

Yes, but the Jacobite attracts HP fans (such as my adult daughter and her friends!).

I didn't realise the legendary and uniquely distinctive sauce was available on the train?

 

[158756]

Before 1830?!?

This is especially silly because the date is apparently in the play and Rowling's online writing rather than the books, so it was written, or at least published, after they'd already used Olton Hall in the films.

 

[Deepgreen]

Just seen this in the news, it's been picked up by several outlets including Sky News.

I kind of think well tough the railways are there not for the benefit of trainspotters they are there to provide transport.

What a dire article, terribly written and full of typos. "A Scots station" - what?!

 

[randyrippley]

When I rode it a few years ago, it was full of Japanese girls who practically had an orgasm when it went over the viaduct.

Must have been bumpy track

 

[hexagon789]

This is especially silly because the date is apparently in the play and Rowling's online writing rather than the books, so it was written, or at least published, after they'd already used Olton Hall in the films.

Exactly what I was thinking originally, so it seems doubly absurd. It isn't perhaps a typo, 1830 actually intended to be 1930 which would be more plausible?

 

[LOL The Irony]

Exactly what I was thinking originally, so it seems doubly absurd. It isn't perhaps a typo, 1830 actually intended to be 1930 which would be more plausible?

Possibly, although Hall class locomotives weren't built at Crewe, with all of them being built at Swindon.

 

[norbitonflyer]

Exactly what I was thinking originally, so it seems doubly absurd. It isn't perhaps a typo, 1830 actually intended to be 1930 which would be more plausible?

From the Harry Potter Wiki

In 1827, Ottaline Gambol rose to the office of Minister for Magic, and she made a daring and controversial suggestion to solve the ages-old problem of how to transport hundreds of students to and from Hogwarts Castle every school year without attracting the Muggles' attention. Intrigued by Muggle technology, the Minister saw the potential of using a Muggle steam locomotive as a secure and comfortable alternative to Portkeys or to unregulated means of travel. The locomotive for the Hogwarts Express itself was originally built by the Muggle engineers at Crewe, in Cheshire, England, in the early-to-mid 19th century.
In 1830, the Ministry of Magic conducted a large-scale operation involving one hundred and sixty-seven Memory Charms, as well as the biggest Concealment Charm ever performed in Britain, in order to acquire the locomotive. The morning after this operation, the residents of Hogsmeade awoke to find the gleaming red Hogwarts Express and a Hogsmeade railway station that had not been there previously, and the Muggle railway employees in Crewe had the feeling they had misplaced something, which stayed with them for the rest of the year.

As has been remarked, Crewe works was not founded until 1840, and indeed the Grand Junction Railway Company itself was not formed until 1832. The wiki also says the locomotive has the number 5900, when Olton Hall carries its authentic number of 5972. 5900 (Hinderton Hall) is also preserved, at Didcot, but I believe not currently in working order

 

[hexagon789]

Possibly, although Hall class locomotives weren't built at Crewe, with all of them being built at Swindon.

Well of course, being GWR engines, but even 1930 wouldn't be quite the correct year either. Lots of 'artistic' licence being taken anyway.

From the Harry Potter Wiki

In 1827, Ottaline Gambol rose to the office of Minister for Magic, and she made a daring and controversial suggestion to solve the ages-old problem of how to transport hundreds of students to and from Hogwarts Castle every school year without attracting the Muggles' attention. Intrigued by Muggle technology, the Minister saw the potential of using a Muggle steam locomotive as a secure and comfortable alternative to Portkeys or to unregulated means of travel. The locomotive for the Hogwarts Express itself was originally built by the Muggle engineers at Crewe, in Cheshire, England, in the early-to-mid 19th century.
In 1830, the Ministry of Magic conducted a large-scale operation involving one hundred and sixty-seven Memory Charms, as well as the biggest Concealment Charm ever performed in Britain, in order to acquire the locomotive. The morning after this operation, the residents of Hogsmeade awoke to find the gleaming red Hogwarts Express and a Hogsmeade railway station that had not been there previously, and the Muggle railway employees in Crewe had the feeling they had misplaced something, which stayed with them for the rest of the year.

As has been remarked, Crewe works was not founded until 1840, and indeed the Grand Junction Railway Company itself was not formed until 1832. The wiki also says the locomotive has the number 5900, when Olton Hall carries its authentic number of 5972. 5900 (Hinderton Hall) is also preserved, at Didcot, but I believe not currently in working order

Very much stretching it and using plenty of artistic licence!

 

[DB]

Exactly what I was thinking originally, so it seems doubly absurd. It isn't perhaps a typo, 1830 actually intended to be 1930 which would be more plausible?

It's a story for kids! She probably just made it up.

 

[hexagon789]

It's a story for kids! She probably just made it up.

You mean to say a book franchise, based on a world of witchcraft and wizardry has used exaggerated and incorrect facts for its minor utilisation of railway related things within canon? Tut tut, well that's reality broken for me!

 

[py_megapixel]

Oh yes, how dare a train be on the railway line. Absolutely disgraceful.

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Perhaps the Potter Spotters would prefer to pay the cost of the delay minutes incurred by ScotRail from holding up the service, had they done so?

 

[DB]

You mean to say a book franchise, based on a world of witchcraft and wizardry has used exaggerated and incorrect facts for its minor utilisation of railway related things within canon? Tut tut, well that's reality broken for me!

I know, shocking isn't it!

 

[The Planner]

Oh yes, how dare a train be on the railway line. Absolutely disgraceful.

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Perhaps the Potter Spotters would prefer to pay the cost of the delay minutes incurred by ScotRail from holding up the service, had they done so?

They probably could have all chipped in a few quid and covered it based on the delay it would have been in reality, not that I am suggesting the service train should have been delayed.

 

[Murray J]

oh no, never mind that we're in the middle of a pandemic and not wearing masks or social distancing, a train got in the way of the steam train!

 

[peteb]

Sorry but I'm really confused. There are light engine plus support coach movements all the time on Network Rail. Why are hundreds of people turning out to see this one? It's just a BR black livery loco and Mk1 carriage, not the entire Jacobite returning south for the winter. Was it specifically touted in the press? If so very irresponsible of the press given the present situation in Strathclyde. I'm a massive Harry Potter fan but this is not the engine from the film even. It's like watching out for a Spitfire fly past and then getting a Cesna.

Sorry but I'm really confused. There are light engine plus support coach movements all the time on Network Rail. Why are hundreds of people turning out to see this one? It's just a BR black livery loco and Mk1 carriage, not the entire Jacobite returning south for the winter. Was it specifically touted in the press? If so very irresponsible of the press given the present situation in Strathclyde. I'm a massive Harry Potter fan but this is not the engine from the film even. It's like watching out for a Spitfire fly past and then getting a cesna.

Sorry but I'm really confused. There are light engine plus support coach movements all the time on Network Rail. Why are hundreds of people turning out to see this one? It's just a BR black livery loco and Mk1 carriage, not the entire Jacobite returning south for the winter. Was it specifically touted in the press? If so very irresponsible of the press given the present situation in Strathclyde. I'm a massive Harry Potter fan but this is not the engine from the film even. It's like watching out for a Spitfire fly past and then getting a Cesna.

However if this many people will turn out just to see the train why not run the Jacobite ECS Fort William to Carnforth as a passenger excursion from Fort William to Glasgow? I'd pay to go across Rannoch Moor behind steam, whether it's got anything to do with Hatty Potter or not! A lunchtime departure would allow a day return from Glasgow and the ECS could still be in Carnforth by midnight ha ha!

 

[awsnews]

Sorry but I'm really confused. There are light engine plus support coach movements all the time on Network Rail. Why are hundreds of people turning out to see this one? It's just a BR black livery loco and Mk1 carriage, not the entire Jacobite returning south for the winter. Was it specifically touted in the press? If so very irresponsible of the press given the present situation in Strathclyde. I'm a massive Harry Potter fan but this is not the engine from the film even. It's like watching out for a Spitfire fly past and then getting a Cesna.




However if this many people will turn out just to see the train why not run the Jacobite ECS Fort William to Carnforth as a passenger excursion from Fort William to Glasgow? I'd pay to go across Rannoch Moor behind steam, whether it's got anything to do with Hatty Potter or not! A lunchtime departure would allow a day return from Glasgow and the ECS could still be in Carnforth by midnight ha ha!

Because for some reason the local press ran a piece with the following headline
"Harry Potter 'Hogwarts Express' steam train to pass Helensburgh" and included times

Harry Potter 'Hogwarts Express' steam train to pass through Helensburgh today

THE steam train featured in the Harry Potter film series is due to pass through the Helensburgh and Lomond area on Monday, September 28.

www.helensburghadvertiser.co.uk

Other local titles from the same publisher ran with similar articles which created all the hype, most people would have taken what was written at face value completely oblivious to the fact it headline was false.

Normally the light engine moves attract the attention of a half dozen at most, certainly at the likes of Helensburgh Upper.

 

[DB]

Because for some reason the local press ran a piece with the following headline
"Harry Potter 'Hogwarts Express' steam train to pass Helensburgh" and included times

Harry Potter 'Hogwarts Express' steam train to pass through Helensburgh today

THE steam train featured in the Harry Potter film series is due to pass through the Helensburgh and Lomond area on Monday, September 28.

www.helensburghadvertiser.co.uk

Other local titles from the same publisher ran with similar articles which created all the hype, most people would have taken what was written at face value completely oblivious to the fact it headline was false.

Normally the light engine moves attract the attention of a half dozen at most, certainly at the likes of Helensburgh Upper.

Sounds like BTP could do with having a word and asking them to be a bit more responsible about what they print!

 

[DarloRich]

it seems the biggest crime here is a local paper printing a space filling story that generates clicks, normals using the wrong terminology to describe something and then daring to pop out to look at a train!