Much simpler solution: only allow those with tickets to travel onto the platforms.Simple solution to stop the crowds. Stick a 37 or 47 in front of the black 5 and nobody will turn up!
Much simpler solution: only allow those with tickets to travel onto the platforms.Simple solution to stop the crowds. Stick a 37 or 47 in front of the black 5 and nobody will turn up!
Much simpler solution: only allow those with tickets to travel onto the platforms.
Just increase the costs of the movement, especially if you have to send one all the way from Carnforth to Ft William LE.Simple solution to stop the crowds. Stick a 37 or 47 in front of the black 5 and nobody will turn up!
Japanese girls and trains....nice !When I rode it a few years ago, it was full of Japanese girls who practically had an orgasm when it went over the viaduct.
I don't think that will be an issue in this case, as it runs daily, and there is a need to get it south occasionally, there is a lot of revenue to be lost by not providing these paths.If the crowds continue to create safety hazards, WCR might find getting paths more difficult in the future.
I'd also run a Q train just before it so BTP can nab trespassers.
It would be RPOs or other authorised staff. As for the cost? The railway is reponsible for safety on its premises. What price would a claim against it cost?Who's going to enforce this at all the unstaffed stations along the route?
Then if it's a big enough safety issue the police (BTP on a Q train) would be involved.And it would probably just lead to idiots going onto the track elsewhere.
Strictly, a path that exists in case it is needed (not used every day). Trains full of police often run (or ran) in such paths; the term 'Q train' is, to some people, synonymous with a unit full of coppers.For the unacquainted among us, what's a Q train?
Or even easier and cheaper, ban the specials from the network. This is what it will come to eventually.It would be RPOs or other authorised staff. As for the cost? The railway is reponsible for safety on its premises. What price would a claim against it cost?
Then if it's a big enough safety issue the police (BTP on a Q train) would be involved.
Simple solution to stop the crowds. Stick a 37 or 47 in front of the black 5 and nobody will turn up!
It happens....A 37 pulling a kettle, that would draw the crowds.
Simple solution to stop the crowds. Stick a 37 or 47 in front of the black 5 and nobody will turn up!
Because WCRC own 37, 47 and 57 and not 66's?Why use a 37, 47 or 57 when you can just use a 66?
True, but you need something that's completely run of the mill.Because WCRC own 37, 47 and 57 and not 66's?
HP fans won't go out for a 37. The number of rail enthusiasts that go out for it will be relatively small and of no danger.True, but you need something that's completely run of the mill.
Much simpler solution: only allow those with tickets to travel onto the platforms.
I would imagine that platform tickets can be withdrawn from sale if there is a hazard to safety. Perhaps somebody here knows whether unrestricted issue is an obligation on the TOC.At Crewe and Leeds, you can still buy platform tickets. They cost 10p. (I know it's kind of irrelevant to this discussion, but, I'm merely highlighting the point that at some stations a platform ticket can be purchased.)
Although there was no presence at Garelochhead for this move the BTP were at Helensburgh Upper. Not the most onerous of crowd control duties, 2 police officers for 4 people who came along for a look!One of the Black 5s came back from Jacobite duties https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U52114/2020-10-25/detailed From reading reports most stations it past had very few if any people seeing it. This move wasn't in the local press like the previous move was.
Possibly because Garelochead is up a track from a relatively small village, wheras Helensburgh Upper is in the middle of a residential area on a main A road and about 15 mins walk from Helensburgh Central which has a 2 TPH service from most of the central belt?Although there was no presence at Garelochhead for this move the BTP were at Helensburgh Upper. Not the most onerous of crowd control duties, 2 police officers for 4 people who came along for a look!
Q ships were merchant ships which had hiddens guns fitted during WW2, German subs would surface to fire torpedoes, at which point the guns would be uncovered and open fire... The same idea was used to deal with vandalism such as throwing stones at trains, BR started running normal looking trains but as you say were full of coppers who would jump out and catch the miscreants, and the name Q trains was coined, linking back to WW2Strictly, a path that exists in case it is needed (not used every day). Trains full of police often run (or ran) in such paths; the term 'Q train' is, to some people, synonymous with a unit full of coppers.
Q ships were merchant ships which had hiddens guns fitted during WW2, German subs would surface to fire torpedoes, at which point the guns would be uncovered and open fire... The same idea was used to deal with vandalism such as throwing stones at trains, BR started running normal looking trains but as you say were full of coppers who would jump out and catch the miscreants, and the name Q trains was coined, linking back to WW2