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Have any more 720s been introduced for the timetable change or is it still the one diagram?
Apparently they have new super comfy S shaped seats and underfloor heating which is unique in the UK
Most of what appears to be the "conduit" is actually due to the outside curvature of the bodyshell to fit in the loading gauge.Though sadly it appears the underfloor heating has not been used to reduce the size of the conduit, so the window seat still has nowhere to put your feet (and the top is sloping so you can't unlike 350s put them on the conduit).
One of the consequences of squeezing in 2+3 seating in 24m bodyshells me thinks. That said when I travelled on one last week I didn’t think the conduit was too intrusive but I had no one sitting next to me.Most of what appears to be the "conduit" is actually due to the outside curvature of the bodyshell to fit in the loading gauge.
In which case it seems odd to have two different number series, but what the h**l ....I doubt it - no reason for them to be as the only original differences were the unit length.
There are more than 100 units! They could have used 7206xx if the /6 range hadn't already been allocated to c2c, but as it is, rather than renumber the c2c units again they've decided to use the range they were already allocated for the 10-car units, for the 5-cars instead. Probably involves the least paperwork of all the potential options.In which case it seems odd to have two different number series, but what the h**l ....
Richard Clinnick (RAIL Magazine) has confirmed it.
Thanks bothSeveral railway magazines have reported it, Today’s Railway UK is the one I saw
There are more than 100 units! They could have used 7206xx if the /6 range hadn't already been allocated to c2c, but as it is, rather than renumber the c2c units again they've decided to use the range they were already allocated for the 10-car units, for the 5-cars instead. Probably involves the least paperwork of all the potential options.
It would seem fairly logical, but I somewhat understand why they did what they did.You would think it would be more sensible to change the numbers of the C2C batch, considering they haven't been completed to allow GA to carry on into the 7206XX range.
it would be neater, yes. But at an operational level it doesn't much matterYou would think it would be more sensible to change the numbers of the C2C batch, considering they haven't been completed to allow GA to carry on into the 7206XX range.
Two seperate diagrams out today. Looks like the 15:58 school train from Ingatestone-Colchester should be operated by them later.Greater Anglia reporting online that the first unit has gone to Braintree in service this morning... 511 and 536 did the honours on 2F04 (0545 Shenfield to Braintree).
Pictures on twitterGreater Anglia reporting online that the first unit has gone to Braintree in service this morning... 511 and 536 did the honours on 2F04 (0545 Shenfield to Braintree).
What is the new diagram?
Yup, always has been SDO during peaks at Freeport and Cressing.So I’m guessing cressing and Braintree Freeport needed SDO at the stations
Any news on the updated diagrams please?
thanks. There seems to be a second diagram too. I noted tiger reporting two lots of 10-car trains within an hour of each other.Assuming that there's been no major changes to the diagrams since May, 2F04 goes on to form:
5F04 0501 Ilford - Shenfield
2F04 0545 Shenfield - Braintree
1F04 0640 Braintree - Liverpool St.
1K16 0757 Liverpool St. - Southend Victoria
2K43 0910 Southend Victoria - Liverpool St.
1K32 1038 Liverpool St. - Southend Victoria
1K59 1150 Southend Victoria - Liverpool St.
2K48 1313 Liverpool St. - Southend Victoria
1K75 1430 Southend Victoria - Liverpool St.
1F30 1548 Liverpool St. - Braintree
1F57 1700 Braintree - Liverpool St.
1K90 1818 Liverpool St. - Southend Victoria
5K90 Southend - Southend CS
Previously it'd lose 4 cars upon first arriving at Southend and would get them back for the 1430 departure - neither of the moves associated with that appear to have run, so I suspect that the trains worked hasn't changed
So, looking at Iris Tiger, I can see 1K28 0955 London Liverpool Street to Southend Victoria and 1K32 1038 London Liverpool Street to Southend Victoria formed of ten coaches if that helps anyone construct diagrams.3 diagrams in service now apparently
Details in GA website link