Tinsley Intermodal progress updates (contains large images)

[ricoblade]

Yeah, it's literally 5 mins walk from Brinsworth village centre and my house.

Is the 3 Vultures (Magpies) pub still there as that's where we used to get the bus to when spotting the depot in the late 70s/early 80s?

 

[GRALISTAIR]

Is the 3 Vultures (Magpies) pub still there as that's where we used to get the bus to when spotting the depot in the late 70s/early 80s?

Wow. Memories. Had many a pint in there. Often in connection with a Northern Counties Transport Society trip.

 

[david_g]

Wow. Memories. Had many a pint in there.

Just had to fish out my Shed Directory...

"Board a Sheffield Joint Committee No. 87(Maltby) bus at Sheffield Pond Street Bus Station (close to Sheffield Midland Station), and alight at Brinsworth Three Magpies"

As you say, memories.

 

[MML-Ben]

Is the 3 Vultures (Magpies) pub still there as that's where we used to get the bus to when spotting the depot in the late 70s/early 80s?

Haha, I've never known it called 3 Vultures (I'm only 36) but yeah, the Maggies is still there.

 

[eastwestdivide]

Traffic to the new Tinsley container terminal is already up to two trains a day, one FL and one GBRF.
They're conveniently timed to pass each other around Rotherham Central at about midday.
Here's the pair yesterday (12/5/21) at Parkgate, at 1204 and 1207:

 

[WestRiding]

Traffic to the new Tinsley container terminal is already up to two trains a day, one FL and one GBRF.
They're conveniently timed to pass each other around Rotherham Central at about midday.
Here's the pair yesterday (12/5/21) at Parkgate, at 1204 and 1207:
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Brilliant news. And all in adition to Masborough too. Long may it continue.

 

[eastwestdivide]

Brilliant news. And all in adition to Masborough too. Long may it continue.

The chap I spoke to on opening day said 4 trains a day by the end of the year, one of which would replace a Masborough one. He also mentioned the possibility of getting a shunting loco on site! Don't shoot the messenger if it doesn't happen though.

 

[WestRiding]

The chap I spoke to on opening day said 4 trains a day by the end of the year, one of which would replace a Masborough one. He also mentioned the possibility of getting a shunting loco on site! Don't shoot the messenger if it doesn't happen though.

They're going to need some flood lights, I noticed the other day when taking pictures, that there are none yet. As an aside the rest of the yard has been picking up recently too, and even trip workings to New Site at Aldwarke.

 

[eastwestdivide]

Watch this space for a photo update - will try and get over there at the weekend.

 

[Trackman]

Is the 3 Vultures (Magpies) pub still there as that's where we used to get the bus to when spotting the depot in the late 70s/early 80s?

I think it’s still there.
I remember the pub, we got directions from the depot directory book.
Even in the 80s I think it was only 2p on the bus, or something daft like that.

 

[muddythefish]

The chap I spoke to on opening day said 4 trains a day by the end of the year, one of which would replace a Masborough one. He also mentioned the possibility of getting a shunting loco on site! Don't shoot the messenger if it doesn't happen though.

Is this Tinsley traffic new to rail, or is it diverted from other terminals eg, Doncaster?

 

[Freightmaster]

Is this Tinsley traffic new to rail, or is it diverted from other terminals eg, Doncaster?

Both! (one of the trains runs in the path of a previous Doncaster Railport service while the other is new)





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[WestRiding]

Suddenly not such a good news story if its just traffic from elsewhere then.

 

[furnessvale]

Suddenly not such a good news story if its just traffic from elsewhere then.

Apart from the fact that it is 50% new and the other 50% better serves the customer's requirements.

Add to that the fact that the ever expanding Doncaster iport now has some freed capacity, what's not to like.

 

[MML-Ben]

I think it’s still there.
I remember the pub, we got directions from the depot directory book.
Even in the 80s I think it was only 2p on the bus, or something daft like that.

It is, see my post #34.

 

[ricoblade]

I think it’s still there.
I remember the pub, we got directions from the depot directory book.
Even in the 80s I think it was only 2p on the bus, or something daft like that.

It was 2p for child fares in Sheffield and this covered Rotherham too. It cost all of 6p, again child fare, to Donny from Sheffield.

 

[Bigman]

Used to do Tinsley regularly. Good memories. I am sure I used to get the bus from Meadowhall to Brinsworth, but I stand to be corrected. Great to see rail activity there again.

 

[_toommm_]

Used to do Tinsley regularly. Good memories. I am sure I used to get the bus from Meadowhall to Brinsworth, but I stand to be corrected. Great to see rail activity there again.

Sounds about right, used to go past Brinsworth Academy (or Brinsworth Comp as it was known at the time), down the service road and did a loop round the Airport estate. The bridge over the service road went over the far end of Tinsley Yard.

 

[unlevel42]

Sounds about right, used to go past Brinsworth Academy (or Brinsworth Comp as it was known at the time), down the service road and did a loop round the Airport estate. The bridge over the service road went over the far end of Tinsley Yard.

The hourly 74a follows a similar route between Rotherham and Sheffield and uses Wood Lane bridge which crosses over the new depot
A much more frequent bus is the A1 between Rotherham(station,tramtrain), Meadowhall(station, supertram), Meadowhall South(tramtrain, supertram, Tinsley junctions, canal) Wood Lane Bridge(new depot) then Catcliffe and Sheffield. The 74 bus passes nearby.

 

[childwallblues]

I think it’s still there.
I remember the pub, we got directions from the depot directory book.
Even in the 80s I think it was only 2p on the bus, or something daft like that.

Igo back even furtherto 1969-72 when I was in digs off Abbeydale road . The 24 bus ran from the end of the road to the Three Magpies. Great for evening spotting, all the 20s, 37s 13s an d 76s. The 24 also passed one of my three watering holes in Sheffield Tne Non Polical Club on Attercliffe Road.

 

[eastwestdivide]

Your roving reporter writes:

Not much in the way of new infrastructure visible there today. No lighting yet, and the concrete loading pad still only extends for about half the site length, requiring the train to draw forward at intervals for loading and unloading. The stack of containers was much bigger than when I visited on opening day. Piles of new aggregate also visible the Meadowhall side of the bridge, apparently for more space for road transport parking/turning.

Today's inbound about 1100 was double-headed.

If anyone's planning a visit for a departure, be aware that some outbound trains have been leaving the terminal very early (an hour or more) compared to the first timing point in realtimetrains. For example today's 1040 departure:

Realtime Trains - 414N 1040 Tinsley Intermodal Term to Doncaster Ept (F'liners)

Realtime Trains provides live realtime running information for the Great British railway network using open data.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

wasn't visible from Wood Lane bridge at 1000 when I arrived, and one earlier in the week was on the Traksy diagram* at Shepcote Lane well over an hour early, although it waited for time to proceed any further.
*They disappear off the diagram when in the terminal

Next week's timings have been altered slightly compared to last week - an inbound and an outbound pass each other near Tinsley E Jn around 1125.


And here's a crop from a maximum zoom on the Catcliffe end of the run-round loop, pretty much underneath the Sheffield Parkway road bridge:

 

[WestRiding]

Your roving reporter writes:

Not much in the way of new infrastructure visible there today. No lighting yet, and the concrete loading pad still only extends for about half the site length, requiring the train to draw forward at intervals for loading and unloading. The stack of containers was much bigger than when I visited on opening day. Piles of new aggregate also visible the Meadowhall side of the bridge, apparently for more space for road transport parking/turning.

Today's inbound about 1100 was double-headed.

If anyone's planning a visit for a departure, be aware that some outbound trains have been leaving the terminal very early (an hour or more) compared to the first timing point in realtimetrains. For example today's 1040 departure:

Realtime Trains - 414N 1040 Tinsley Intermodal Term to Doncaster Ept (F'liners)

Realtime Trains provides live realtime running information for the Great British railway network using open data.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

wasn't visible from Wood Lane bridge at 1000 when I arrived, and one earlier in the week was on the Traksy diagram* at Shepcote Lane well over an hour early, although it waited for time to proceed any further.
*They disappear off the diagram when in the terminal

Next week's timings have been altered slightly compared to last week - an inbound and an outbound pass each other near Tinsley E Jn around 1125.
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And here's a crop from a maximum zoom on the Catcliffe end of the run-round loop, pretty much underneath the Sheffield Parkway road bridge:
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Thanks for the update. Sorry you missed it. I let it depart early between the TramTrain service an hour early as it was only going back to Doncaster Decoy.

 

[eastwestdivide]

Thanks for the update. Sorry you missed it. I let it depart early between the TramTrain service an hour early as it was only going back to Doncaster Decoy.

Well you can't run the railway for the benefit of photographers! No great disappointment here, as I wasn't really expecting to see it.

 

[unlevel42]

Are the three long Maersk containers part of a cunning plan to hide the secret activities on the yard?

 

[WestRiding]

Are the three long Maersk containers part of a cunning plan to hide the secret activities on the yard?

Haha. That picture really puts into perspective how big containers actually are.

 

[najaB]

Haha. That picture really puts into perspective how big containers actually are.

Standard containers are 40ft long, 7.8ft high and 7ft wide from memory. (Or something pretty close to that)

 

[swt_passenger]

I’m surprised they didn’t give the concrete apron a straight edge all the way along. If they were to upgrade to gantry cranes eventually would it not be better with straight track than the wobble half way down?

 

[zwk500]

I’m surprised they didn’t give the concrete apron a straight edge all the way along. If they were to upgrade to gantry cranes eventually would it not be better with straight track than the wobble half way down?

Given there's only 1 loading line and the general size of the facility I can't really see that gantry cranes are going to be needed any time soon. If they ever are, there'll probably be additional lines laid so the trackwork will be realigned anyway.

 

[furnessvale]

Standard containers are 40ft long, 7.8ft high and 7ft wide from memory. (Or something pretty close to that)

Externally, ISO containers are 8ft wide, 4ft, 8ft, 8ft6ins, or 9ft6ins high, by multiples of 10ft long.

European standards alter that by allowing differing lengths, widths and heights, but none restrict the height and width as described, even internally except possibly 8ft external height may result in 7.8ft internal.

 

[WestRiding]

Been for a look today. Loads of containers and still building too. The stabled wagons were left yesterday, and the locomotive went back to Donny Roberts Road.