Class 701 'Aventra' trains for South Western Railway

[LUYMun]

701016 made movements today:

06:29 5Q50 Eastleigh TMRSMD - London Waterloo, which reversed at Bournemouth Middle Sidings
11:16 5Q51 London Waterloo - Staines Up Loop, which reversed at Poole S.S.
17:17 5Q52 Staines Up Loop - Eastleigh TMRSMD, which reversed at Bournemouth Middle Sidings

 

[Chris125]

Yes, the claim that the short cab was to fit extra seats in is clearly not correct. There's one bay of four between the cab and the doors. On the 720s there's one bay of four plus an inward facing single seat squeezed in.

720 carriages are around 4m longer than the 701s - isn't extra room between the cab and doors to be expected, even with a larger cab?

 

[spark001uk]

The stricken 701029 has now been collected from Humberstone Rd and dropped off at Old Dalby, for later forwarding to the works for attention. Or fixed there, who knows.

 

[Goldfish62]

720 carriages are around 4m longer than the 701s - isn't extra room between the cab and doors to be expected, even with a larger cab?

I think the extra length is between the doors, but if it's also between the cab and doors it still renders the argument about fitting extra seats in void, because it's not true. One bay of four, that's all that's between the cab and the doors. There's no extra space been made in as a result of the shorter cab, just a shorter coach length.

 

[spark001uk]

Today's drag: 47749 + 701031. Past Fenny Stratford 94L currently.
Worthy of note it's peeled off at Bedford and coming across the Marston Vale and down wcml this time.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/23404/2021-05-07/detailed#allox_id=0

 

[_toommm_]

The stricken 701029 has now been collected from Humberstone Rd and dropped off at Old Dalby, for later forwarding to the works for attention. Or fixed there, who knows.

Out of curiosity, what was wrong with it please? I remember thinking it was odd that it was there on Sunday.

EDIT: Just seen about the brake problems earlier in this thread.

 

[FuzzyDuck]

Accidentally caught 5Q40 going south today whilst I was parked up behind the Basingstoke Leisure Centre eating lunch. Couldn't get the number however. It seems I just missed 5Q51 going in the opposite direction by a couple of minutes.

 

[3973EXL]

STP 13/05

Realtime Trains - 5Q80 0654 Eastleigh Trsmd to Widnes Transport Tech

 

[spark001uk]

STP 13/05

Realtime Trains - 5Q80 0654 Eastleigh Trsmd to Widnes Transport Tech

Interesting it sheds 115 ton at Woking.!

 

[Flange Squeal]

Interesting it sheds 115 ton at Woking.!

Another loco hitching a cheeky lift with the consist to save running up light separately perhaps?

 

[444045]

Anyone know which 701 is on 6X24 Derby to Eastleigh Depot running 89 late with 47749 today please ?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Goldfish62]

STP 13/05

Realtime Trains - 5Q80 0654 Eastleigh Trsmd to Widnes Transport Tech

So that's the second one to Widnes? Hoping perhaps this is to do with cab mods?

 

[spark001uk]

Anyone know which 701 is on 6X24 Derby to Eastleigh Depot running 89 late with 47749 today please ?

Thanks in advance.

Well, it's 701022, but it has failed just south of Derby station. Was nice and handy for fitter to attend at least.

Edit: Has now pushed back into Derby p7, clearing the line for traffic.

 

[444045]

Well, it's 701022, but it has failed just south of Derby station. Was nice and handy for fitter to attend at least.

Edit: Has now pushed back into Derby p7, clearing the line for traffic.

Thank you for the info, much obliged to you.

 

[spark001uk]

6X24 now shows cancelled on RTT. Has been pushed back into Chaddesden sidings and returned to Litchurch.
Note on railcam says issue with translator equipment.

 

[Goldfish62]

6X24 now shows cancelled on RTT. Has been pushed back into Chaddesden sidings and returned to Litchurch.
Note on railcam says issue with translator equipment.

Perhaps not use a 47 to haul them in future. Old heap.

 

[spark001uk]

Perhaps not use a 47 to haul them in future. Old heap.

You took the words right out of my mouth.! I was just about to say they never had this issue with isolation + brake force wags.
Assuming they did it to save weight, and hence fuel / track access cost.

 

[Mollman]

Perhaps not use a 47 to haul them in future. Old heap.

It does seem to be a random allocation at times, some units have had a 47, 56 and break wagons whilst others have just been a single loco in charge.

 

[3973EXL]

STP 13/05

Realtime Trains - 5Q80 0654 Eastleigh Trsmd to Widnes Transport Tech

VSTP

Realtime Trains - 5Q80 0954 Eastleigh Trsmd to Widnes Transport Tech

 

[spark001uk]

VSTP

Realtime Trains - 5Q80 0954 Eastleigh Trsmd to Widnes Transport Tech

47749 + 701007.

 

[FuzzyDuck]

Caught it on the Railcam Watford cam.

 

[spark001uk]

Second attempt at delivery for 701022 this morning.

- and.... cancelled. (unit fault again)

 

[Socanxdis]

can't they just stick with 707s

 

[py_megapixel]

can't they just stick with 707s

Before long they won't even have a lease on them, and in any case there aren't enough of them to replace the life-expired 455 and 456 fleet.

 

[spark001uk]

5Q10 in system for Tues 18th, starting from Old Dalby. As that was where the failed 701029 was dragged to last time, I assume they're attempting it again.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K03679/2021-05-18/detailed

Edit: on the move, around 45L at the moment.

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20/5:
Another second attempt today, 47749 with 701022. Goes without saying it left a couple of hrs late. Currently 88 late just south of Loughborough.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K03680/2021-05-20/detailed#allox_id=0

 

[Nogoohwell]

5Q10 in system for Tues 18th, starting from Old Dalby. As that was where the failed 701029 was dragged to last time, I assume they're attempting it again.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K03679/2021-05-18/detailed

Edit: on the move, around 45L at the moment.

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20/5:
Another second attempt today, 47749 with 701022. Goes without saying it left a couple of hrs late. Currently 88 late just south of Loughborough.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K03680/2021-05-20/detailed#allox_id=0

Looks like 5Q10 completed the delivery 4 hours late. Maybe 701029

The delivery yesterday looks like another unit. Maybe 701022?

 

[444045]

Looks like 5Q10 completed the delivery 4 hours late. Maybe 701029

The delivery yesterday looks like another unit. Maybe 701022?

Confirmed that both U.701022/029 have arrived at Eastleigh Depot.
U.701018 was moved out of Eastleigh Works yday via the depot and back into the works.

 

[3973EXL]

STP 25/05

Realtime Trains - 5Q10 0648 Widnes Transport Tech to Eastleigh Trsmd

 

[Goldfish62]

STP 25/05

Realtime Trains - 5Q10 0648 Widnes Transport Tech to Eastleigh Trsmd

So, I wonder if this has had mods carried out to the cab. If it has, and they're acceptable then hopefully we may start seeing some progress.

 

[spark001uk]

So, I wonder if this has had mods carried out to the cab. If it has, and they're acceptable then hopefully we may start seeing some progress.

A number of units have been delivered with cab mods applied at build, so one would hope progress has already been made!