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Lothian Group discussion (Lothian City, Lothian Country Bus and East Coast Buses)
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Graham Alexand
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703 - I'm unsure
738 - Andrews Coaches, Foxton, Cambridge.
746 - I'm unsure.
763 - Scrapped in Lothian Buses at Seafeild.
Lothian Volvo B7TL Wright Eclipse Gemini SN56ABO 763 at Seafield Works on 24 December 2020.
Lothian's last B7TL. Being used as a source of parts. Future of vehicle not known.
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786 - I'm unsure.
Apologies, I didn't notice that it was already replied to.
Not there anymore I believe. (Image below shows 763 in a sorry state with Vehicle Off Road (VOR) sticker).
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Graham Alexand
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It's not looking the healthiest that.
This might be off topic but:
Lothians native B9TL's are mostly (if not all) have a voith gearbox.
Another gearbox option for a B9TL is a ZF one which are on the ex London B9TL's.
My question is; can a voith gearbox B9TL get swapped out for a ZF gearbox (or vice versa)?
Thanks.
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ScotRail158725
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It left Seafield at the end of January but I've no idea where it ended up.
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Jordan Adam
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Simple answer: yes
It's technically feasible, but why would any company bother? If a Voith fails you just repair, rebuild or find another one.
Only vehicles I've driven were semi auto Leyland Tigers converted to manual as the gearbox was made out of chocolate - and one former Voith Ailsa that was converted to SCG as a trial.
Can't think of any reason why Lothian would entertain the idea of changing gearboxes en masse?
Lothianbus703
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I'm pretty sure most native B9TL are being replaced over the next few years anyway so I don't see the point..
OmniCity999
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strictly speaking, everything's getting replaced eventually...
The clock is ticking until 601-690 end up with Horsburgh & associated Lothian vehicle buyers too
Humberscot
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Give it 13 years and they'll be flying around in yellow and white full of unruly school kids!The clock is ticking until 601-690 end up with Horsburgh & associated Lothian vehicle buyers too
Think 631-655 are for Marine. 601-630 are all at Longstone now I believe.
Highland050261
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Does anyone know if 601 has made an appearance yet?
I don't believe so.
Auld reekie
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Well maybe some will go back on the 44 route.
Lothianbus703
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I think 900-912 excluding 905/906 will be the next B9TLs to get withdrawn
It's not even registered with the DVLA. As posted on the last few pages it may see use as an ADL demo before reaching Lothian..
FlybeDash8Q400
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It’s been said widely that the 08 plates are the ones going first so the ones you’ve mentioned would hardly come as a surprise. Numbers would suggest that at least some of the 2009 Gemini2 B9TL’s might move to reserve and some sold as well, assuming no majorly dramatic increase in service (ie close to pre pandemic levels) which seems unlikely.
The vast majority of vehicles remaining in the fleet with blue interiors should be withdrawn/sold within something like the next 2 years, possibly not even as long as that.
I wonder if a few of these Lothian allocated B5TL’s might be 71 plates, certainly the ECB ones seem very probable to be.
I remember people saying the new buses were built to a cheaper spec, I do find the SmartSeat’s comfier. USB’s fit in a better place as well, although possibly harder to spot for some. The only thing that I’d say makes them look cheaper is the return to strip lights, even the staircase being missing isn’t that bad in my view. Definitely welcomed additions to the fleet.
Lothianbus703
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Speaking of blue interior, I wonder what will replace 171-175 if anything? More Evoras perhaps?
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They're still on the official fleet list, for now at least. My money would be on 1-10 going along with them whenever 170-175 are replaced. Standard length 12m MCVs with a more basic interior perhaps?
Lothianbus703
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I meant in the future.
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ScotRail158725
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Only around 10 of the 9xx are in service today with 911 being the lowest one in service
Lothianbus703
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900 was in service earlier.
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It still is in service.
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ScotRail158725
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I wrote that before 900 and a couple others spawned in service….
Lothian_Bus
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The roadworks at Duddingston / Willowbrae have been removed today so hopefully the new buses can return to the 44 tomorrow.
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TheEastCoaster
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Why would the roadworks affect the bus choice on the 44? Sorry for the potentially ignorant sounding question, but I'm just curious.
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Trackers are not in the new vehicles yet, so the delays caused trackers to display inaccurate info. As mentioned in this thread this caused issues for drivers, passengers & controllers in the garage.
That's 602-630 now all at Longstone. Apparently the 19/21 for Marine's batch.