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England set to drop facemasks and social distancing on July 19

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The amount of messages I see here about only wearing the mask because you have to but you don't actually believe in it. Surely the time has come to grow some balls and actually stand up against this assault on personal freedom. You don't even have to break the law in doing so, just claim an exemption which are sufficiently vague that anyone can legally do so.

People laid down their lives to stop us becoming a country like this where officials boss us about in everyday/normal activities but so many people just can't handle the thought of being different or not complying. Do what you think is right, not what some busy-body says. Your maskless face could send a message to others who feel the same and perhaps there might be a way out of this madness.

In case it wasn't obvious, I would be far more likely to use public transport if things went back to February 2020 tomorrow. It still wouldn't change the endless announcements, hospital ambience and terrible seats that now adorn a large proportion of long distance rolling stock however. All of which was already deterring me from using public transport long before Covid.
 
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People laid down their lives to stop us becoming a country like this where officials boss us about in everyday/normal activities but so many people just can't handle the thought of being different or not complying. Do what you think is right, not what some busy-body says. Your maskless face could send a message to others who feel the same and perhaps there might be a way out of this madness.

On the flip side, NHS and transport workers have picked up and died from Covid, so (if you are able) wearing a face covering at the height of the pandemic is hardly a big ask in the grand scheme of things. (I do recognise their time is close to coming to an end FWIW)
 

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I think some here have missed the point of why face masks / face coverings were introduced. An individual wearing one does slightly reduce the likelihood of catching the virus.
That is demonstrably untrue, studies such as DANMASK-19 have found no measureable effect, just like all the other studies before. The evidence is marginal even for medical professionals with N-95 respirators.
But if everyone is wearing them, then the number and distance that water droplets in your breath travel is reduced. Hence it aids, in connection with people staying sufficiently apart in reducing the ability of the virus to spread from a host and to infect another host. Then everyone is less likely to catch the virus from the air.
And yet the majority of Randomised Control Trials have found no effectiveness at preventing the spread of respiratory illness. Low quality mechanistic studies should not be relied on when their experimental premise is flawed, and most higher-quality evidence suggests to the contrary. Unlike most of the comentators here, and in the media, I actually have a Ph.D in droplet mass transfer; most of these studies failed to consier alternative suppression (anyone remember 'catch it, kill it, bin it') or where the droplets end up; unless you're right up in the face of them, then the chances are any droplets will fall harmlessly onto their clothing. Seriously, when was the last time someone ever accidentally spat in your mouth or eyes.
So this ‘thing’ about you don’t want to wear a face covering, but it’s okay for others doesn’t really work. That’s like saying, you think it’s okay for you to smoke, because you don’t care about others not having a choice of having to breathe in smoke from your cigarette.

Tell you what, maybe I’ll bring a stink bomb with me. Then let it off in a train and see how long you like sitting in a confined area with a very, very nasty smell.
I fear you do not understand the difference between gasses and droplets, I would suggest reading up on such concepts as gravity, bouyancy and diffusion. And again, given the high-quality evidence that masks do not work; your suggestion that we 'don't care about others' is disingenuous at best.
Humans are strange creatures. If the virus caused permanent disfigurement of the face and body that would put off the opposite sex, would you take it more seriously? Is the possibility of suffering long COVID or dying not enough for your brain to thin
However it does not form permanent disfigurement, please refrain from bringing baseless hypothetical situations into this for the purposes of rhetoric.
For the vast majority of people the risk of death is incredibly low, this is more so now we have incredibly effective vaccines. As for the so-called 'long covid'; for people who have been hospitalised, taking time to recover is normal. For non-hospitalised cases, I do not feel the evidence is clear cut in the majority of cases, as it if this is 'long covid' or deconditioning from being locked in our houses for months on end. Finally, for the 'unexplained' cases of random illnesses, these are in almost all cases 'incidental-omas'; things that people have noticed due to the above average prevalence of health information.
Unless we (as a country) manage to completely eliminate the COVID19 Corona virus (like New Zealand have done) there will still be a risk of catching it. Just because you have been vaccinated, it does not remove the risk entirely. It just reduces the risk.
Given that it took over 100 years to eliminate smallpox, and that for most people; this is a mild respiratory illness, it seems like the gains will be at best marginal. If you are wanting to remove risk entirely, you may as well give up now, we always live with risk. If you want to stay boarded up in your house, then I would remind you that household accidents kill over 100,000 Americans every year.

. And at the moment, the jury is still out on this.

If you have novel evidence that vaccines do not work, then present it to a journal; otherwise cease this baseless vaccine-denial.


In terms of liberty, there is no bill of rights in this country. This is a kingdom, not a republic. One guy tried travelling from one end on the country to the other end, but kept getting arrested. What, you say, did he do wrong? His wrongdoing was simple, he wanted to be naked. Rather him than me. But for social reasons, wearing clothes is the normal thing to do when in public, even though it may be warm enough that you don’t need to.
But masks are not, and have never been normal in this country; and placating your delusional sense of fear does not seem like a good reason the change that.
Hence, although I would prefer it if we did completely eliminate COVID19, I would much prefer not to wear a face covering, until then, it may become the new normal.
Even the Chris Whitty agrees that elimination would be impossible.
Next people will be complaining that they are not allowed to get on public transport with their firearm…
You actually are allowed to get on public transport with a firearm; I imagine a change would cause serious inconvenience in some of the London Target shooting clubs.
 

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On the flip side, NHS and transport workers have picked up and died from Covid, so (if you are able) wearing a face covering at the height of the pandemic is hardly a big ask in the grand scheme of things. (I do recognise their time is close to coming to an end FWIW)

But, to be blunt, how many of those would have been saved by the population wearing masks? Probably none.
 

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On the flip side, NHS and transport workers have picked up and died from Covid, so (if you are able) wearing a face covering at the height of the pandemic is hardly a big ask in the grand scheme of things. (I do recognise their time is close to coming to an end FWIW)
There is no evidence that a mask on an uninfected individual does anything other that create plastic waste to dispose of. The justification I political, not scientific.
 

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There is no evidence that a mask on an uninfected individual does anything other that create plastic waste to dispose of. The justification I political, not scientific.
The number of discarded masks I see on the street and in bushes etc is disgusting. A good enough excuse to get rid of them for me!

The amount of messages I see here about only wearing the mask because you have to but you don't actually believe in it. Surely the time has come to grow some balls and actually stand up against this assault on personal freedom. You don't even have to break the law in doing so, just claim an exemption which are sufficiently vague that anyone can legally do so.

People laid down their lives to stop us becoming a country like this where officials boss us about in everyday/normal activities but so many people just can't handle the thought of being different or not complying. Do what you think is right, not what some busy-body says. Your maskless face could send a message to others who feel the same and perhaps there might be a way out of this madness.

In case it wasn't obvious, I would be far more likely to use public transport if things went back to February 2020 tomorrow. It still wouldn't change the endless announcements, hospital ambience and terrible seats that now adorn a large proportion of long distance rolling stock however. All of which was already deterring me from using public transport long before Covid.
100%

The number of times I've been challenged on trains for not wearing a mask in the last few months is tiny and every time except one the answer "I'm Exempt" has been satisfactory to the person asking.
 
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The amount of messages I see here about only wearing the mask because you have to but you don't actually believe in it. Surely the time has come to grow some balls and actually stand up against this assault on personal freedom. You don't even have to break the law in doing so, just claim an exemption which are sufficiently vague that anyone can legally do so.

People laid down their lives to stop us becoming a country like this where officials boss us about in everyday/normal activities but so many people just can't handle the thought of being different or not complying. Do what you think is right, not what some busy-body says. Your maskless face could send a message to others who feel the same and perhaps there might be a way out of this madness.

In case it wasn't obvious, I would be far more likely to use public transport if things went back to February 2020 tomorrow. It still wouldn't change the endless announcements, hospital ambience and terrible seats that now adorn a large proportion of long distance rolling stock however. All of which was already deterring me from using public transport long before Covid.
Been doing this on trains and non-independent bus operators and shops for a while now, but as of this week I've had enough and am doing it absolutely everywhere. Wish more would do the same.
 

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I too will be using public transport more frequently once the mask mandate has been removed.

I personally tended to try and avoid crush loaded trains prior to COVID anyway, I suspect I probably will continue to do so where possible, but not because of COVID
 

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I think it’s also underestimated that needing to wear a mask reinforces the (untrue) perception that public transport is unsafe. So short term reassurance becomes long term deterrent which shifts people toward less safe forms of transport, and this will become more dramatic if public transport is the only context in which mask regulations are not lifted.
Indeed, the taking of a precaution means that it is thought to be necessary. The sheer volume of vaccine doses received combined with priority access to vaccines for the vulnerable makes cases a meaningless statistic.

Social distancing on trains is a strange one. I use a train daily which has 50% of the seats vacant but people standing crowded in the vestibule.
Seems that its ok to stand next to someone but not sit next to them

If it's not reserved, why not sit down in an empty seat?

Covid elimination? Forget it, this is a near impossible scenario. So if you feel the need to keep wearing masks permanently please feel free to do so, but do not expect many of us to follow. Sorry, but that is the bottom line.

I agree. Some of us are not prepared to go for the tyranny of zero-covid.

There is no evidence that a mask on an uninfected individual does anything other that create plastic waste to dispose of. The justification I political, not scientific.
The waste carries a risk of diseases from the wearer, some of which may be worse or longer-lasting than COVID.

People laid down their lives to stop us becoming a country like this where officials boss us about in everyday/normal activities but so many people just can't handle the thought of being different or not complying. Do what you think is right, not what some busy-body says. Your maskless face could send a message to others who feel the same and perhaps there might be a way out of this madness.
Edited down, but I agree 100%.

The number of discarded masks I see on the street and in bushes etc is disgusting. A good enough excuse to get rid of them for me!
I agree 100%, it is disgusting.

The number of times I've been challenged on trains for not wearing a mask in the last few months is tiny and every time except one the answer "I'm Exempt" has been satisfactory to the person asking.
Officially challenged or unofficially?

I too will be using public transport more frequently once the mask mandate has been removed.

I personally tended to try and avoid crush loaded trains prior to COVID anyway, I suspect I probably will continue to do so where possible, but not because of COVID
Same here.

Facemasks were introduced to mitigate against a pandemic with no cure which had the potential to cause a lot of mortality and overwhelm the health service. They were not introduced to make hypochondriacs feel better.

There is now a very effective vaccine taken up by the majority most vulnerable to the pandemic and there is little chance of the health system getting overwhelmed (as it stands), therefore there is no reason for compulsory mask wearing on public transport.
I agree 100%. Also, even the ^disposable^ masks leak in both directions so they don't do that much.
 

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Most posters on this forum are generally against Covid measures (rightly or otherwise!). So you are probably no more likely to get an accurate reflection of public opinion on here, than on Yougov or any other online poll. Self-selection and other biases simply make that impracticable; you can't reliably control for it.

I think the public attitude is best judged by how people comply (or rather don't). Hardly anyone wore a covering on 14 June last year, the day before the mandate came into force. Ever since, the majority have 'complied' in some way, but there have always been a high proportion that have worn their covering improperly (not covering the nose or mouth fully), or that take it off when they don't think anyone is watching, or once they're seated reasonably distant from others. And of course barely anyone has ever handled their face covering in a truly "Covid secure" or hygienic manner.

The percentage of those not complying properly or at all has drastically increased in recent months, and I think it would be difficult to suggest that people would continue to largely comply if the mandate is dropped.

I've no doubt that there are those on both extremes of the argument who won't take public transport if face coverings become optional, and vice versa. But in reality they make up a very small percentage of the public. Most people will just go by what the mandate says.

I think the picture is largely the same on social distancing. However, even once this becomes an issue of "personal responsibility" as opposed to being strongly recommended to all and sundry, people will naturally gravitate to sit away from others. This has always been the way even before Covid.

The real question will be when operators stop suggesting it is mandatory (it has never been mandatory, in fact!) and when the announcements, signage and policies stop. I fear that may take until far beyond 19 July.
 

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I think the whole mask thing has become more and more binary and politicised.

I think that at the very height of the pandemic (with no vaccines) there may have been some help but as the danger has started to fall away so has the need.

We now have 31.5 million double jabbed and it is time to remove the mask mandate. They Government can recommend or advise the wearing of masks but we need to head back to normal. The argument that even if double jabbed you could still infect another person is interesting. No-one cared about other people's health before March 2020 so why now?

I suspect a good few have decided to be exempt as of 21st June anyhow.
 

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Most posters on this forum are generally against Covid measures (rightly or otherwise!). So you are probably no more likely to get an accurate reflection of public opinion on here, than on Yougov or any other online poll. Self-selection and other biases simply make that impracticable; you can't reliably control for it.

I think the public attitude is best judged by how people comply (or rather don't). Hardly anyone wore a covering on 14 June last year, the day before the mandate came into force. Ever since, the majority have 'complied' in some way, but there have always been a high proportion that have worn their covering improperly (not covering the nose or mouth fully), or that take it off when they don't think anyone is watching, or once they're seated reasonably distant from others. And of course barely anyone has ever handled their face covering in a truly "Covid secure" or hygienic manner.

The percentage of those not complying properly or at all has drastically increased in recent months, and I think it would be difficult to suggest that people would continue to largely comply if the mandate is dropped.

I've no doubt that there are those on both extremes of the argument who won't take public transport if face coverings become optional, and vice versa. But in reality they make up a very small percentage of the public. Most people will just go by what the mandate says.

I think the picture is largely the same on social distancing. However, even once this becomes an issue of "personal responsibility" as opposed to being strongly recommended to all and sundry, people will naturally gravitate to sit away from others. This has always been the way even before Covid.

The real question will be when operators stop suggesting it is mandatory (it has never been mandatory, in fact!) and when the announcements, signage and policies stop. I fear that may take until far beyond 19 July.
Mask mandates were not compulsory in Wales until late August. I happily wondered around shops unmasked along with others.

Operators cannot mandate masks this can only be done by Government via Coronavirus legislation. So if LNER for example could not make masks compulsory, they might recommend them though.
 

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This place may be like an echo chamber. I am another who has been completely put off rail travel by the mask mandate, so the abandonment of those rules can't come soon enough. I was encouraged today that the Times were running a story which might be another government scene-setting leak, suggesting it may all be in the bin come 19th July. Let's hope so.

This week I have done my first long distance train trip in 15 months. Much looked forward to, as I hadn't seen any of my trainveg mates at all during all this time, it was planned months ago when Freedom Day was set for this week. I was reluctant to let the government's latest u-turn make me go by road instead this time. It was not the most enjoyable trip, more an uncomfortable case of can't win, I find wearing a mask unbearable (both physically and in the knowledge that it's almost definitely pointless), and not wearing one gives me feelings akin to that of travelling without a ticket. Alternatively, adopting the 2019 dress code attracts the sort of character like the one nearby I encountered on my very first train who accused me while I was drinking my water "I'm shielding and you're infecting me" before he retreated a couple of rows. I trumped that by moving to another coach so as not to make his mental health condition any worse. Welcome to the 2021 railway Phil, I thought, what on earth has it become?
Contrary to reports on here I found mask compliance to be 99%+ on my trip, I only saw a few full faces, although many people seemed to be relieved at being able to make the most of spinning out eating and drinking.
 

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Thanks for all your comments so far. I noticed that most people seem to have an aversion to being forced to wear face masks after 19 July. Would the same apply in terms of social distancing? Would you be comfortable sitting next to someone on a train for example, or even getting on a crowded train where you were required to stand?

Best wishes,

Luke

Personally, after 15 months of this, I'm completely over all humans treating each other as if they are diseased lepers. I am absolutely fine with people sitting next to me on a train, and I certainly would be put out if I had to stand if there were plenty of empty seats.

Can I ask if your polls specifically targeted regular public transport users, by the way? Or was it completely random?
 

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On the flip side, NHS and transport workers have picked up and died from Covid, so (if you are able) wearing a face covering at the height of the pandemic is hardly a big ask in the grand scheme of things. (I do recognise their time is close to coming to an end FWIW)
But don't NHS workers wear masks? Also exactly how many have died from it and out of those how many had underlying health issues? To be really blunt I doubt any lives would have been saved with a population wearing badly fitting masks.
 

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Operators cannot mandate masks this can only be done by Government via Coronavirus legislation. So if LNER for example could not make masks compulsory, they might recommend them though.
Agreed though some rogue operators (e.g. a ferry company in Devon) do not allow exempt people to travel with them (and become abusive when reminded of disability legislation), which is unlawful, but until someone brings the matter to court, they will continue to get away with it.

Would the same apply in terms of social distancing?
This is difficult to answer.

If I book early, then I benefit from social distancing as I can get two seats to myself (or even a bay of 4 to myself on XC).

But if I book late, the price could be astronomical or I could even be denied travel.

So if you ask people the hypothetical question, they may say they like the idea of extra space (even if for non-Covid reasons) but they will rapidly change their mind if it leaves them paying huge fares, or even being stranded.
 

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I have only been wearing a mask when travelling because of the legal requirement. If they had always been optional I never would have worn one. I have no concerns about anybody else not wearing a mask.
I have travelled on numerous trains, buses, trams and tubes since Covid started.
I have recently travelled on crowded tubes with every seat taken, people standing in the aisles etc. with no worries.
Likewise on a couple of short formed trains I have had people sit next to me for 1hr+ with no concerns.
The sooner mask wearing and social distancing are consigned to history the better.
 

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And yet the majority of Randomised Control Trials have found no effectiveness at preventing the spread of respiratory illness. Low quality mechanistic studies should not be relied on when their experimental premise is flawed, and most higher-quality evidence suggests to the contrary. Unlike most of the comentators here, and in the media, I actually have a Ph.D in droplet mass transfer; most of these studies failed to consier alternative suppression (anyone remember 'catch it, kill it, bin it') or where the droplets end up; unless you're right up in the face of them, then the chances are any droplets will fall harmlessly onto their clothing. Seriously, when was the last time someone ever accidentally spat in your mouth or eyes.
So provide links to the evidence or the studies. Remember, I never made the case for face coverings. The government of this country did. My argument is that while the government says you should wear a face covering, people should respect that. The government has said that it will ‘follow the science’ (whatever that actually means). There may well now be more studies that tell us more. If the scientific and medical advice is that people no longer need to wear face coverings, that fine. Until then, people should respect others by following the advice and instructions from the government. A government that got a significant majority at the last election.
I fear you do not understand the difference between gasses and droplets, I would suggest reading up on such concepts as gravity, bouyancy and diffusion.
Really, do you honestly think that someone like me does not understand the difference between gasses, droplets and does not understand gravity?
However it does not form permanent disfigurement, please refrain from bringing baseless hypothetical situations into this for the purposes of rhetoric.
I think you either speed read and miss words, read what you think I said, or don’t understand some ordinary English words. Maybe you should take the time to read again what I actually wrote.
For the vast majority of people the risk of death is incredibly low
You could apply this argument to many other things where people don’t like safety ‘improvements’. But it is a fact that lots of people have died from COVID19 and some are still dying. And more will die in the future.
As for the so-called 'long covid'; for people who have been hospitalised, taking time to recover is normal. For non-hospitalised cases, I do not feel the evidence is clear cut in the majority of cases, as it if this is 'long covid' or deconditioning from being locked in our houses for months on end. Finally, for the 'unexplained' cases of random illnesses, these are in almost all cases 'incidental-omas'; things that people have noticed due to the above average prevalence of health information.
If long COVID19 does not exist, why some NHS hospitals treating patients with it?
Given that it took over 100 years to eliminate smallpox, and that for most people; this is a mild respiratory illness, it seems like the gains will be at best marginal. If you are wanting to remove risk entirely, you may as well give up now, we always live with risk. If you want to stay boarded up in your house, then I would remind you that household accidents kill over 100,000 Americans every year.
It is not possible to remove risk entirely for anything.
Given the number of people that have died, the vast majority of medical professionals are unlikely to describe COVID19 as ‘mild respiratory illness’.
And I have worked and commuted throughout the pandemic and throughout the lockdowns.
If you have novel evidence that vaccines do not work, then present it to a journal; otherwise cease this baseless vaccine-denial.
And exactly where did I say that vaccines do not work?
But masks are not, and have never been normal in this country; and placating your delusional sense of fear does not seem like a good reason the change that.
It’s not me that fears things. I’ve worked and commuted throughout the pandemic and throughout the lockdowns including before face coverings were required.
Even the Chris Whitty agrees that elimination would be impossible.
Lots of people misuse the word impossible. I imagine it was once said to be impossible to eradicate Smallpox.
You actually are allowed to get on public transport with a firearm; I imagine a change would cause serious inconvenience in some of the London Target shooting clubs.
I never said you couldn’t…
 

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Hi all,

We put out this tweet earlier following reports that face coverings and social distancing rules are set to be scrapped in England on 19 July:
Social distancing has long ceased on public transport in London. Clearly the people using it are happy to take the risk. If other people don't want to, that's up to them. It just leaves more space for those that do.
 

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Unless we (as a country) manage to completely eliminate the COVID19 Corona virus (like New Zealand have done) there will still be a risk of catching it. Just because you have been vaccinated, it does not remove the risk entirely. It just reduces the risk. And at the moment, the jury is still out on this.
I don't understand what you are trying to say but it belongs in a new thread. Feel free to create one; I'll debunk your claims in an appropriate thread.

Lots of people misuse the word impossible. I imagine it was once said to be impossible to eradicate Smallpox.
Again I don't see what this has got to do with the topic in hand; feel free to create a new thread if you wish to make such a comparison; I will disagree with you there!
 

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Can't wait to see the back of the things! My experience from travel in the last week is that when any authority is out of sight, the masks are either off, or are chin warmers, anyway.
Had a trundle around Merseyrail recently. Trains are very busy again, especially on the Southport Line. Loads of people not wearing masks. They weren't yobby types but mainly families or later on couples going out for an evening in the city.

Social distancing on trains is a strange one. I use a train daily which has 50% of the seats vacant but people standing crowded in the vestibule.
Seems that its ok to stand next to someone but not sit next to them
Yes I agree that it's odd. If I'm close to the door vestibule I'll point out that people are welcome to sit next to me. Someone nearly always does.
 
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Personally I couldn’t care less if fellow passengers are wearing masks or not, nor would I be particularly bothered by somebody sitting opposite/next to me on the train, the exception of course being if they are coughing their lungs up everywhere. If the temperatures stay as high as they are I will probably cease wearing a mask anyway, regardless of what Boris says. I have already had the virus, the vaccine and I regularly test negative before going into work, so the risk to anyone else is as close to zero as you could realistically get.
 

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Personally I couldn’t care less if fellow passengers are wearing masks or not, nor would I be particularly bothered by somebody sitting opposite/next to me on the train, the exception of course being if they are coughing their lungs up everywhere. If the temperatures stay as high as they are I will probably cease wearing a mask anyway, regardless of what Boris says. I have already had the virus, the vaccine and I regularly test negative before going into work, so the risk to anyone else is as close to zero as you could realistically get.
It's not about that; mask mandates are about asserting authoritarianism & control, pandering to hysterical people and providing a placebo to people who have been scared by vaccine efficacy deniers.

I'd argue mask mandates have never made sense but it's more true now than ever before. The whole thing is absolutely bonkers. The likes of Texas and Florida have it right and those made false claims about those places now have egg on their faces.
 

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I don't think the question of whether people would be put off using public transport is very informative. A lot of people who use public transport only do so because they have no better option, so they can't really be "put off".
 

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So provide links to the evidence or the studies. Remember, I never made the case for face coverings. The government of this country did.
The government of this country have proven themselves time and time again to be a load of lying bufoons. Why anybody would believe anything that they say is beyond me.
 

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Very worried about masks becoming permanent on public transport. If it is not lifted on July 19th, then it could be forever. Would be bad news for heritage railways if that happened.
 

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Very worried about masks becoming permanent on public transport. If it is not lifted on July 19th, then it could be forever. Would be bad news for heritage railways if that happened.
No chance. I would predict mass civil disobedience if mask mandates don't get dropped in four weeks time as planned.

Mask mandates are discriminatory and need to end. If need be, the people will make them end, mark my words.
 

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Even as rail staff who is lucky enough to benefit from staff travel facilities I've done most long distance journeys recently by car because even accounting for the additional cost it's just so much less stress than having to be stuck for hours wearing a face covering on what's already likely to be a challenging journey - reservations mandatory trains, reduced timetables etc. Plus, I don't get told off by the Conductor for blasting out 80s classics when I'm in my own car. :smile:

Will be glad to see the back of mandatory face coverings, if some people still want to wear them of their own choice then as far as I'm concerned go for it.
 

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I’ve had many a comment at work asking me why I’m not wearing one, when I’m in a sealed glass box (bureau-de-change).

It wouldn’t surprise me if people still gave glares and made stupid comments when they are no longer mandatory.
 
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