D365
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Presumably, that is what the Epping-Ongar will be trying to recreate.But you can no longer go to the Isle of Wight to ‘enjoy’ its heritage London Transport experience.
Presumably, that is what the Epping-Ongar will be trying to recreate.But you can no longer go to the Isle of Wight to ‘enjoy’ its heritage London Transport experience.
The Bakerloo has been a heritage experience for at least the past ten years.
The W&C is much longer. The Aldwych branch is only just over 500 yards long, the W&C is almost 1.5 miles.I enjoyed riding the Bakerloo line, I considered it a time warp line with retro train set, I particularly like the seating layout and the lights going out through section breaks.
I rode the Aldwych line before it closed and it was a very short journey, the nearest equivalent is the Waterloo and City line, as far as I can remember the Aldwych branch was never busy and I vaguely remember where the doorway is at Holborn station.
How did people get into Aldwych to graffiti it? It's a locked entrance, and it's not like a surface station where you can jump over the fence.No, the unit is in the tunnel at the Aldwych end (prior to the pandemic it was in the platform at Aldwych but moved due to continued graffiti). The unit is now well overdue its routine overhaul and maintenance and due to the cost of getting it done it is planned for the unit to be scrapped, regardless of any decision being taken about severing the line as part of the Holborn station upgrade.
The branch is still electrified and can be switched on / off as required by the Piccadilly line.
I imagine it's only switched on when required. Looking at the state of the rails I'd imagine there would be some spectacular arcing when power is taken.And why does the branch still have the power on? I was quite surprised by that, watching the programme
Hence "Nearest equivalent"The W&C is much longer. The Aldwych branch is only just over 500 yards long, the W&C is almost 1.5 miles.
How did people get into Aldwych to graffiti it? It's a locked entrance, and it's not like a surface station where you can jump over the fence.
And why does the branch still have the power on? I was quite surprised by that, watching the programme
And the contactors clicking as power is taken.I enjoyed riding the Bakerloo line, I considered it a time warp line with retro train set, I particularly like the seating layout and the lights going out through section breaks.
I rode the Aldwych line before it closed and it was a very short journey, the nearest equivalent is the Waterloo and City line, as far as I can remember the Aldwych branch was never busy and I vaguely remember where the doorway is at Holborn station.
Yes, I was wondering about the graffiti.How did people get into Aldwych to graffiti it? It's a locked entrance, and it's not like a surface station where you can jump over the fence.
And why does the branch still have the power on? I was quite surprised by that, watching the programme
What programme please?Not about this station, but it was really interesting visiting North End station on this week's programme
The same series ( Tube Secrets ), 20.00 last night - it's available online ( UKTV PLay, I think ) and also gets a repeat sometime around the end of the week.What programme please?
TaThe same series ( Tube Secrets ), 20.00 last night - it's available online ( UKTV PLay, I think ) and also gets a repeat sometime around the end of the week.
Secrets of the Underground on Yesterday. Repeated on FridayWhat programme please?
Later on after the 73 stock was introduced it was always a dedicate 3 car unit the number of which I cannot remember
And, if it didn't exist, they would lose revenue from closing in-service stations during filming.The current set up at aldwych is probably quite convenient to TfL
They have a training/experimentation location where they undertake things like accident management training and experimenting with tiling and paintwork
They can charge a huge amount more for filming than it would have a made in passenger revenue and when filming is not being undertaking they can charge £60 for hidden London tours
£1200 an hour for a production big enough to use aldwych plus additional costs for filming in exclusive locations (Charing cross - Aldwych listed as examples) plus staff overtime costs for any filming outside standard hours
An additional £2000 per hour on top of the £1200 for use of aldwych+£1000 for use of the train
I never knew the NY Subway used 73 stockI believe that unit may have been unit 890-690-691 since that appears in Superman and I believe I saw it in a video somewhere else.
(The scene from Superman for those interested )
Yes, I love that sound and the slightly jerky acceleration. Also you get that old school tube train gearbox (?) noise, though not to the same extent I remember as a child with older stock.And the contactors clicking as power is taken.
Superman was set in metropolis a fascimilie of new York but not new York maybe they had deep level style trainsI never knew the NY Subway used 73 stock
Aldwych might be convenient, but full size C or D stock would have been slightly more convincing doubles for NY Subway trains!
I think you're getting confused with Batman? Superman films were certainly set in the "real world".Superman was set in metropolis a fascimilie of new York but not new York maybe they had deep level style trains
Batman’s fictional city is Gotham City, Superman lives in Metropolis.I think you're getting confused with Batman? Superman films were certainly set in the "real world".
But they were set in Metropolis, a fictional city.I think you're getting confused with Batman? Superman films were certainly set in the "real world".
They should have filmed on the Metropolitan Line then!But they were set in Metropolis, a fictional city.
I can't say I found this or subsequent episodes patronising at all. For once I felt fed reasonably accurate information in an intelligent manner.Enjoyed the footage of Secrets of the London Underground - they went to some interesting places, but not the Janet and John commentary. Found it a bit patronising. Really no need to dumb down so much.
Its not going to happen because, as they said, the platform at Holborn is to be destroyed to provide a new access passageway through it. However, Aldwych will remain untouched which is good news as the last of the original Otis lifts remain in situ, let's hope they may one day class as "preserved" and the station even made into a small museum. Perhaps I am dreaming . . .Yup. It was a basket case in regular service, and it would be an even bigger basket case as a heritage railway. It would cost an absolute fortune to rehabilitate and make safe and suitable for passenger use again...and once more...how much is anyone going to pay for a journey that takes two minutes?
It still wouldn't be viable, even if that wasn't a factor.Its not going to happen because, as they said, the platform at Holborn is to be destroyed to provide a new access passageway through it.
I think it could be a very good museum and event space, actually. There's a lot of interesting original features, plus things like trial finishes and fittings on the platform that was abandoned early, so those things would be of interest to a lot of people.However, Aldwych will remain untouched which is good news as the last of the original Otis lifts remain in situ, let's hope they may one day class as "preserved" and the station even made into a small museum. Perhaps I am dreaming . . .
I believe that unit may have been unit 890-690-691 since that appears in Superman and I believe I saw it in a video somewhere else.
(The scene from Superman for those interested )