Kilopylae
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I also recalled hearing that the issue was that fixed links don't count when checking for shortest routes/routes within three miles, and niche though it may be, it also doesn't seem difficult to fix.
I agree but may be that is too time consuming and they don't have time or staff to do it. This is fasterThis feels like they should really have tried to fix the underlying hole in the logic rather than just slapped an easement on it
What was the initial reason that such tickets wouldn't be accepted on the bus despite it was a valid route?I agree but may be that is too time consuming and they don't have time or staff to do it. This is faster
The fact the destination says Woking on a ticket from Guildford and the journey is much longer than a rail journey from Guildford to Woking.What was the initial reason that such tickets wouldn't be accepted on the bus despite it was a valid route?
I didn't remember seeing such a temporary easement for the North Downs Line before. I think seeing any easement on the line during engineering works is almost unheard of.Some more changes were published in the routeing guide on Thursday:
701024 (Fare route) During engineering work disruption, on Sunday 11 September, Saturday 01 October and Sunday 06 November 2022, tickets priced on routes (00619) GUILDFORD READING and (00615) GOMSHALL will be valid on journeys that go via Clapham Junction. This fare route easement applies in both directionsSections of the Reading-Redhill line are closed on those dates, so this helps people avoid the line.
If someone travelling that was surcharged, they can claim a refund, if they still have the evidence.May I ask what the benefit / point is in applying an easement for dates in the past?
That’s not how it reads to me, the items with dates in the past all seem to be in the section headed “removals”, all the “additions” are in the future?May I ask what the benefit / point is in applying an easement for dates in the past?
Sorry, yes. Those have all been deleted. From what I can see, there's only one easement left (700173) for which the text gives an end date, and where this is before August.That’s not how it reads to me, the items with dates in the past all seem to be in the section headed “removals”, all the “additions” are in the future?
Anyone have any idea what the purpose of temporarily doing this was?700173 (Circuitous Route) Customers travelling from or via Newton Abbot, Teignmouth, Dawlish, Dawlish Warren, Starcross and Marsh Barton to Exeter St Thomas may not travel via Exeter St David's. This easement applies until the 15 December 2019 and will operate in both directions.
Is it perhaps the case that Exeter St Thomas started being skipped more often in the December 2019 timetable?Anyone have any idea what the purpose of temporarily doing this was?
Easement 700173 wasn't originally a temporary one. It was created (in, I think, 2011) without an end date, and the date was added in in October 2019. 15 December was the last day of the May timetable.Anyone have any idea what the purpose of temporarily doing this was?
8th is a strike day anyway, so not going to make a fat lot of difference to anything I expect.701030 (Map) During an engineering closure on the 08 October 2022, Avanti West Coast services will not be able to travel between Coventry and Birmingham. Services will be diverted via Stafford, and this map easement will create temporary permitted routes that will apply in both directions.There doesn't seem to be any indication of this closure in the timetable or on the national rail engineering works page.
The easement, however, permits travel via routeing points between Rugby and Stafford, Smethwick and Stafford, and also via Walsall. It only applies to travel on Avanti trains, so the effect depends on what diversions they use.
Looks odd, do the original versions of these two actually read “Bristol Temple Newport” etc? It seems the previous versions did as well…Some more changes were published in the routeing guide this afternoon.
701036 (Map) During engineering works between 27 and 31 December 2022, and Sundays 08 January and 05 February 2023 Bristol Parkway station will be closed. This map easement will provide temporary permitted routes via Bristol Temple Newport (South Wales) and Gloucester for journeys that normally would travel north/south via Bristol Parkway and Gloucester. It will apply in both directions.701038 (Doubleback) During engineering works between 27 and 31 December 2022, and Sundays 08 January and 05 February 2023 Bristol Parkway station will be closed. This double back easement will provide temporary permitted routes via Bristol Temple Newport (South Wales), Severn Tunnel Junction and Gloucester for journeys that normally would travel north/south via Bristol Parkway and Gloucester. It will apply in both directions.
... customers will need to travel by bus from St Neots to Bedford and to continue their journeys by train to London St Pancras on either East Midlands or Great Thameslink services...
Perhaps you meant Swindon and Patchway? Going non-stop through Cardiff would be funthere are London-Swansea trains which are non-stop between Swansea and Patchway.
Might be for a thread of its own but does this mean you could buy a Didcot - Bath ticket and travel from Cholsey, Goring etc, effectively starting short at Cholsey? Or would this fall foul of it reducing the fare you pay?A Cholsey-Chippenham ticket can also be used that way, but nre.co.uk (for one) only shows it as valid with a double back via Didcot.
Oops, yes.Perhaps you meant Swindon and Patchway? Going non-stop through Cardiff would be fun![]()
You should be able to on those dates if you have a ticket which permits break of journey (which may be anything except an advance ticket in that case). You don't need to look at intermediate fares when planning a journey.Might be for a thread of its own but does this mean you could buy a Didcot - Bath ticket and travel from Cholsey, Goring etc, effectively starting short at Cholsey? Or would this fall foul of it reducing the fare you pay?