The East Suffolk Line had a tourist leaflet with timetable in it in the summer, and might have a new one now.GWR and Two Northern Line guides are the only printed rail timetables I have found in the last few years.
Yet the lady at the London Bridge ticket office said that they don't have printed timetables anymore yesterday!I was very pleasantly surprised to see the return of South Eastern printed timetables for the non metro routes.
I was very pleasantly surprised to see the return of South Eastern printed timetables for the non metro routes .
Is anyone aware of any other TOCs bringing them back?
Thanks. I'll try to get some as soon as I can.The information office at Victoria outside the South Eastern gate line had a load for each route plus the racks at Maidstone East were full of them last week. I reckon the Charing Cross info desk will probably have stock too
Thankfully incorrect. I had no problem finding printed timetable leaflets in France and Switzerland recently. I do not have a mobile phone and rely on the printed material.I sincerely hope other TOCs aren’t. The railway is haemorrhaging enough money as it is without spending money printing these. Timetables often end up getting picked up, used once and then discarded. An environmental and financial waste.
Much more sensible to provide downloadable pdfs which people can print out themselves if they really want to.
Across Europe printed timetables are rightly a rareity.
What were the timetables for in France and Switzerland?Thankfully incorrect. I had no problem finding printed timetable leaflets in France and Switzerland recently. I do not have a mobile phone and rely on the printed material.
Thankfully incorrect. I had no problem finding printed timetable leaflets in France and Switzerland recently. I do not have a mobile phone and rely on the printed material.
Thankfully the best bus operators and local authorities still produce printed bus timetable booklets because they want to attract custom, unlike the railways where it's increasingly a take it or leave it approach.
I sincerely hope other TOCs aren’t. The railway is haemorrhaging enough money as it is without spending money printing these. Timetables often end up getting picked up, used once and then discarded. An environmental and financial waste.
Much more sensible to provide downloadable pdfs which people can print out themselves if they really want to.
I was in Germany just before Christmas where printed DB timetables were widely available - and new ones on racks in advance of the December changeover date.Those are the rarity, not spotted any in Germany, Netherlands, Austria and several others
I disagree. Printed timetables should always be available. A timetable is like a shopfront.
you dont use an airline to go from Keighley to Bradford.I would argue these days to most the railway shop window is their App.
Airlines used to have printed timetables, I’ve not seen one for years yet that hasn’t discouraged air travel!
I would argue these days to most the railway shop window is their App.
Airlines used to have printed timetables, I’ve not seen one for years yet that hasn’t discouraged air travel!
But trains aren't aeroplanes, and most people don't expect the same thing from a train as from an aeroplane.
You say many people don’t use apps, well there’s many many many more people who do and they tend to look confused when given a timetable. It’s just the way technology moves on with the younger generation!
That's probably at least in part due to a lack of confidence from one day to the next about what the railway decides it's running.I would argue these days to most the railway shop window is their App.
I think you've hit the nail on the head there. The railways would rather we didn't know the timetable so they can just remove trains when they feel like it, up to the night before.I also think it would be a lot harder to get away with this 'timetable of the day' and 'cancelling by 10pm the night before' nonsense, that the railway has suddenly become plagued with, if there were more hard-copy timetables available around stations. It is increasingly difficult at many stations to find any printed information whatsoever showing what is supposed to be running.
Hi, Do you have a link to the Baden-Wurttemberg timetable, I've looked on Amazon but it couldn't work out what I meant. Many Thanks in AdvanceI was in Germany just before Christmas where printed DB timetables were widely available - and new ones on racks in advance of the December changeover date.
DB have stopped printing their timetable book, although pdfs of tables are available online. There is still a printed 1000+ page Baden-Württemberg comprehensive timetable, though. Cost 12 Euro from DB travel centres, some bookshops and even available on Amazon.
Local U-bahn folders were mostly easy to find too. Printed bus/tram/train route maps also still seem to be the order of the day, although bus timetables tend to be more patchy.
Switzerland, on the other hand, now seems to be a big zero for anything printed.
Apart from the National Rail Enquiries app. That doesn't seem to move on with the younger generation.They used to however and times change.
I suspect RF UK won’t give a balanced view as we are largely interested in trains and thus find timetables helpful to look at a service along a line of route. I admit to liking timetables myself. However…
You say many people don’t use apps, well there’s many many many more people who do and they tend to look confused when given a timetable. It’s just the way technology moves on with the younger generation!
Hi, Do you have a link to the Baden-Wurttemberg timetable, I've looked on Amazon but it couldn't work out what I meant. Many Thanks in Advance
Thanks for taking the time to sort this info outIt's on amazon UK here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/bwegt-Kursbuch-Baden-Württemberg-2023-Regionalverbindungen-Nahverkehrsgesellschaft/dp/3943551180/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1J4M2ZZ4NKY14&keywords=bwegt&qid=1672834070&s=books&sprefix=bwegt,stripbooks,214&sr=1-2
It says 'map' but it's not. It's the 1060-page book.
But book+postage comes out cheaper to buy from Amazon.de: https://www.amazon.de/bwegt-Kursbuch-Baden-Württemberg-2023-Regionalverbindungen-Nahverkehrsgesellschaft/dp/3943551180
And having done some digging, cheaper still from Book Depository, who charge slightly more for the book but have free shipping: https://www.bookdepository.com/bwegt-Kursbuch-Baden-Württemberg-2023-Nahverkehrsgesellschaft-Baden-Württemberg/9783943551181?ref=grid-view&qid=1672834202305&sr=1-1
I suspect some young people have never seen a timetable, from using a journey planner or simply booking A to B. They simply check of their train or bus is running on a app.They used to however and times change.
I suspect RF UK won’t give a balanced view as we are largely interested in trains and thus find timetables helpful to look at a service along a line of route. I admit to liking timetables myself. However…
You say many people don’t use apps, well there’s many many many more people who do and they tend to look confused when given a timetable. It’s just the way technology moves on with the younger generation!
You're assuming that you can get a mobile signal everywhere, which is simply not even remotely true.I suspect some young people have never seen a timetable, from using a journey planner or simply booking A to B. They simply check of their train or bus is running on a app.
I suspect some young people have never seen a timetable, from using a journey planner or simply booking A to B. They simply check of their train or bus is running on a app.