People spotting passenger trains? Most people are more interested in freights!
Respectfully, you sound quite silly and arrogant here.
It’s not even a paid for service!
I think Tom can live with that. I sure can. RTT for me all the way.
I like passenger trains, as interesting as freight trains are there's a lot more passenger trains for me to tick off, on a journey I might see 20 LNWR trains, I'd see 4 freight trains, and I'd very much like the Class 350 numbers
Most people you speak to, which is not the same thing.
From my experience, there's an awful lot of gen that turns out to be complete duff for a large number of reasons. I'd rather RTT stood it's ground and persuaded FOCs to get involved in showing allocations than let wrong numbers get into the system and then lots of people complaining about trekking out to spot something interesting that turned out to be a Shed they'd seen 4 times already that week. And I don't even spot!
At the end of the day, I don’t see why the rest of the TOCs haven’t contributed. What do they have to lose, other than annoying tweets from enthusiasts asking for gen - which I’m sure they’d be only too delighted to lose?
I assume there's some level of cost in it. Given that some TOCs are using pretty old planning systems I wouldn't be surprised if they were prioritising IT upgrades over sharing gen.
Yes. If all operators gave their allocations I would give up all my arguments! But given as lots of operators don’t, I just feel that user allocations for operators that don’t have allocations would be better than nothing.
I already do! I am asking this question on behalf of friends who don’t use railcam.Respectfully, you sound quite silly and arrogant here.
Threatening to boycott an already very well used and successful site because the owner won’t implement a rather silly idea isn’t going to have much merit. It’s like, on a smaller scale, one of many fans of a celebrity threatening to unfollow them on Instagram. I’m sure they’ll live without your patronage
I’m personally glad RTT is powered by data and not by trusting random people in the same way that gives Wikipedia its reputation for being unreliable. If you prefer Railcam, as you said, you can pay the small subscription fee and use that instead!
I think RTT is excellent for many features. Before I knew Railcam existed, I used it to check where the freights were out and how far away they were. Until I saw 5 66s on “pathed as electric” workings 1 day and decided I needed a better resource. It’s still very useful for checking which platform your train goes on and many other stuff like passenger allocations. I think this simple addition would improve the website but I don’t know best and I accept that untrue allocations would be a problem. It works fine on Railcam and user-added allocations are 99% accurate but maybe on RTT it would be different. I don’t know. I have better ways to spend my time than on this thread frankly with this war being waged against me.I await the imminent collapse of RTT as a result of this boycott!
I think perhaps you might be taking this issue a little more seriously than it might warrant
That’s how it seemed, anyway. I’ve said this before.In a perhaps not parallel universe, RTT could be continuing to persue the "powered by actual data" approach and working on getting another major FOC to transmit their data into it. Freight has and isn't very high up the priority list because passenger operators are my preference - we have now performed actual studies where we do have some incremental improvements in dwell times at major stations where we know RTT is well used and KYT is implemented. But we are working on a FOC.
The way we actually have it implemented now for the vast majority of operators means that it incurs no cost to them, while it does cost RTT money - the amount depends on the integration. It fits quite nicely into the normal data streams that each operator must make use of as part of the network code. Each new operator costs us a few hundred quid to implement.
But then Tom isn't running this operation out of the goodness of his heart! If it's costing money and you're getting aggro why would you continue to run a service? This Forum, thankfully, covers it running costs through ad revenue but if it didn't I doubt I'd be willing to chip in to keep it running with the amount of moaning we get directed at usI must admit I get nervous when people criticise the platform. Being entirely honest I wasn’t particularly impressed to see what looked a bit like emotional blackmail at some point last year, when people complained about the adverts and the response was something along the lines of “I might close the website entirely then as thinking about it, it’s quite expensive.”
Sort of like a threat used to suppress negative feedback
That’s you not understanding the data rather than anything else.
Freightliner’s new UK & Europe CEO (who takes up the post later this year) is definitely enthusiast-friendly. So perhaps a chance of getting Freightliner allocations added.
Sure.As I'm sure most people are aware by now, I don't say what operators are on the way in case it falls through.
I knew that they might not be 90s but thought that maybe a resource with allocations might be better.
Thanks for the info, I hope so. Even Railcam lacks allocations for many services so a GBRf style system for Freightliner would be wonderful. My Freightliner 90 tracking would be much easier!
You mean you want to fudge the numbers of units you haven't been able to identify for yourself!I like passenger trains, as interesting as freight trains are there's a lot more passenger trains for me to tick off, on a journey I might see 20 LNWR trains, I'd see 4 freight trains, and I'd very much like the Class 350 numbers
Indeed, you can see my unsuccessful (Except the freight train) attempt at that one time in the Non Urgent TOPS requests thread.You mean you want to fudge the numbers of units you haven't been able to identify for yourself!
I use the ChatGPT app to get my fudge list.You mean you want to fudge the numbers of units you haven't been able to identify for yourself!
Given the different purposes of the two sites, I think it's fair enough for Railcam to prioritise new camera sites, better cameras at existing sites, or the logistics of hosting the streams over getting the data feed that RTT uses.
I agree, as I said the two sites do have slightly different functions. I would rather Railcam have more cams. RTT has slowly covered my area (the North-East) with all the operators I'm bothered about locally and just had to be patient.
I wonder if it’s also to do with them not being allowed to supply the info behind a paywall?
Seconded!
Hear hear.
