Ex LNER (and Grand Central) Mark 4 sets for TfW

[Envoy]

The black coaches just don’t show up as the train goes through the countryside. Stick with the regular TfW livery - coaches & locomotives.

 

[sd0733]

The Mk4 diagram has been reinstated tomorrow, was concern over platform availability at Crewe with it potentially sharing with the Chester Shuttle but it's been sorted so a set will be be on 1V31, 1W55, 1V42, 1W63 now as originally planned. Should be HD06

 

[anthony263]

What are the odds I'll have a mk4 rake on the 0536 from Swansea Monday morning?

 

[Welshguy1048]

Hello

What happened with this 67? - if it was a 67 - got to Holyhead very early and no reports of it passing hardly anywhere or stopping.....

Realtime Trains | 1W96 2001 Chester to Holyhead | 23/06/2023

Real-time train running information for 1W96 2001 departure from Chester to Holyhead on 23/06/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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Thanks.

Dave

 

[sd0733]

What are the odds I'll have a mk4 rake on the 0536 from Swansea Monday morning?

Not very likely. Unless things change it Looks like the diagram reverts to working 1W11 again on Monday rather than 1W13 like it was this week.

Hello

What happened with this 67? - if it was a 67 - got to Holyhead very early and no reports of it passing hardly anywhere or stopping.....

Realtime Trains | 1W96 2001 Chester to Holyhead | 23/06/2023

Real-time train running information for 1W96 2001 departure from Chester to Holyhead on 23/06/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Thanks.

Dave

It was started at Chester with a 197 due to no crew. It definitely didn't get to Holyhead an hour before it left Chester though!

 

[Welshguy1048]

Thank you for the information.

 

[anthony263]

Not very likely. Unless things change it Looks like the diagram reverts to working 1W11 again on Monday rather than 1W13 like it was this week.


It was started at Chester with a 197 due to no crew. It definitely didn't get to Holyhead an hour before it left Chester though!

Dam It . Would have been nice to have something interesting. Mind you 8ve only got a 8 minute connection at Cardiff into the 0640 Nottingham service

 

[Krokodil]

The black coaches just don’t show up as the train goes through the countryside. Stick with the regular TfW livery - coaches & locomotives.

Nah, they should reverse it so that red is the main colour. Would stand out really well then

 

[Topological]

Dam It . Would have been nice to have something interesting. Mind you 8ve only got a 8 minute connection at Cardiff into the 0640 Nottingham service

Take the 05:28 GWR

1W13 does not even run every day, never mind whether or not it is a Mk4. The ECS comes from Canton in the morning and often the unit is not allocated until the last minute.

To be fair though, when it does run 1W13 keeps time well between Swansea and Cardiff.

 

[tomuk]

Nah, they should reverse it so that red is the main colour. Would stand out really well then

A lighter colour might well reduce fuel and maintenance costs due to a lighter aircon load

 

[Rhydgaled]

Hardly. It's a minor nuisance, you're not stranding the guard in one set with no access to the other.

Good point; I was thinking about it from the point of view of a standard class passenger, and overlooked that the guard can go through first class.

 

[Krokodil]

A lighter colour might well reduce fuel and maintenance costs due to a lighter aircon load

Well red is lighter than black. In any case, a 67 providing HEP is going to guzzle fuel whatever colour the coaches are painted.

 

[anthony263]

Take the 05:28 GWR

1W13 does not even run every day, never mind whether or not it is a Mk4. The ECS comes from Canton in the morning and often the unit is not allocated until the last minute.

To be fair though, when it does run 1W13 keeps time well between Swansea and Cardiff.

I'm getting on at Pyle at 0603

 

[Nym]

Well red is lighter than black. In any case, a 67 providing HEP is going to guzzle fuel whatever colour the coaches are painted.

And will continue to drink fuel for as long as the Batteries and Converters on the Mk.4s are broken, or until a decent shore supply is installed.

 

[Topological]

I'm getting on at Pyle at 0603

In the case definitely pay attention to check whether the train is running.

I understand Pyle is useful because a lot of people get on/off from 1W13, but it surprised me when Pyle moved from "service stop unadvertised" to being a full stop. All the other stations between Swansea and Cardiff are also served by the GWR (admittedly either 10 minutes earlier, or later but then missing the connection into any 1W13 starting in Cardiff), but the passengers at Pyle get missed if 1W13 does not run.

 

[anthony263]

In the case definitely pay attention to check whether the train is running.

I understand Pyle is useful because a lot of people get on/off from 1W13, but it surprised me when Pyle moved from "service stop unadvertised" to being a full stop. All the other stations between Swansea and Cardiff are also served by the GWR (admittedly either 10 minutes earlier, or later but then missing the connection into any 1W13 starting in Cardiff), but the passengers at Pyle get missed if 1W13 does not run.

Its better run im.booked on it to Cardiff Central, then the 0640 crosscountry service to Birmingham New Street to change onto the 0952 service to Leicester as far as south Wigston

 

[sd0733]

HD07 begins it's mainline testing tomorrow after being sidelined since its transfer to TFW. 5 car set HD03 will take its place in Canton for some repairs which will then allow the 5 car testing to recommence next week.

 

[Royston Vasey]

Great news. 1W61 was back to a single 150 yesterday!

 

[sd0733]

Great news. 1W61 was back to a single 150 yesterday!

It's a 150 diagram again now. Oddly the Manchester on 1 diagram has been replaced by the old diagram today, 06:48 to Holyhead and back before doing the 17:14 Cardiff to Holyhead

 

[AdamWW]

Good point; I was thinking about it from the point of view of a standard class passenger, and overlooked that the guard can go through first class.

Are passengers not permitted to walk through first class to get between the standard class coaches?

 

[D6130]

Are passengers not permitted to walk through first class to get between the standard class coaches?

Not necessary....the first class carriage is marshalled between the buffet car and the Driving Van Trailer.

 

[sd0733]

Not necessary....the first class carriage is marshalled between the buffet car and the Driving Van Trailer.

On the original set 1st was between 2 standard coaches and it is on the 5 car sets too which are formed TOE-TOD-SV-POD (1st)-TO so that wheelchairs can always alight at short platforms.
Standard passengers can walk through first and have to to get from the isolated standard coach either to the buffet or to a door at short platforms.

 

[D6130]

On the original set 1st was between 2 standard coaches and it is on the 5 car sets too which are formed TOE-TOD-SV-POD (1st)-TO so that wheelchairs can always alight at short platforms.
Standard passengers can walk through first and have to to get from the isolated standard coach either to the buffet or to a door at short platforms.

OK. Thanks for the clarification. My premise was based on my own experience of travelling on the route.

 

[Jacob Porrett]

It's a 150 diagram again now. Oddly the Manchester on 1 diagram has been replaced by the old diagram today, 06:48 to Holyhead and back before doing the 17:14 Cardiff to Holyhead

How many diagrams are there to Cardiff/Holyhead these days?

 

[sd0733]

Tomorrow should see 6 sets out on the mainline for the first time.

HD01,02,04 and 06 on the passenger circuits, 06 should do a now rare daytime Holyhead working 1W91/V96 rather than a Manchester.

HD03 should be moving from Crewe to Cardiff for tyre turning and HD07 is planned on a test run Canton to Hereford and back.

The only missing set is HD05 which is on a heavy exam at Crewe which will enable it to go onto the new maintenance regime with more days in traffic.

 

[JakeMurphy]

Tomorrow should see 6 sets out on the mainline for the first time.

HD01,02,04 and 06 on the passenger circuits, 06 should do a now rare daytime Holyhead working 1W91/V96 rather than a Manchester.

HD03 should be moving from Crewe to Cardiff for tyre turning and HD07 is planned on a test run Canton to Hereford and back.

The only missing set is HD05 which is on a heavy exam at Crewe which will enable it to go onto the new maintenance regime with more days in traffic.

That’s excellent. Do you know locomotive HD02 currently has? Thanks.

 

[sd0733]

That’s excellent. Do you know locomotive HD02 currently has? Thanks.

67029 is on HD02.

 

[Craig37]

Tomorrow should see 6 sets out on the mainline for the first time.

HD01,02,04 and 06 on the passenger circuits, 06 should do a now rare daytime Holyhead working 1W91/V96 rather than a Manchester.

HD03 should be moving from Crewe to Cardiff for tyre turning and HD07 is planned on a test run Canton to Hereford and back.

The only missing set is HD05 which is on a heavy exam at Crewe which will enable it to go onto the new maintenance regime with more days in traffic.

Nice to see W91 & V96 loco hauled again. Nice capacity boost for the coast

 

[SuperLuke2334]

How many diagrams are there to Cardiff/Holyhead these days?

Usually only 05.33 Holyhead to Cardiff and 17.14 Cardiff Holyhead.

 

[sd0733]

How many diagrams are there to Cardiff/Holyhead these days?

Normally it's just 05:33 from Holyhead down and the 17:14 from Cardiff back up.

Its being used as a way of rotating sets this week where crewing allows so isn't permanent on the extra daytime working.