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Enviro MMC 11629 has now entered service from Preston on route 125.
Police believe a bus fire that broke out on a busy city centre street may have been started deliberately.
The bus became engulfed in flames on Lime Street in Liverpool opposite the railway station at 18:30 BST on Friday.
Merseyside Police said the fire was extinguished and no injuries had been reported to the force.
"Further reports and examinations have established that the fire may have been caused deliberately at present," police said.
The force urged anyone with information to come forward as a joint investigation with the fire service was now under way.
Merseyside Fire and Rescue Service said a Stagecoach representative was in attendance while the fuel and battery supply to the vehicle had been isolated.
A Stagecoach spokeswoman said: "Our driver safely evacuated all passengers from the vehicle and there were no reported injuries.
"Safety is our number one priority, and a full investigation into the cause of this incident is under way."
It looks to be a total write off from my visionLiverpool bus fire may have been started deliberately, say police
The double-decker bus became engulfed in flames on a busy street in Liverpool city centre.www.bbc.co.uk
Does anyone know which vehicle was involved? I hope the driver is ok.
In the old days they'd have made it into an open topper..It looks to be a total write off from my vision
Why is it a write off? They are still building the MMCs and could easily repair the top deck, depending on the insurance.
The floor of the upper saloon is a one piece unit that is integral to the strength of the entire bus, as well as forming the ceiling of the lower saloon. It's made of plastic, so, if it's melted, it's goodnight Vienna, and it'll be off for recycling.Why is it a write off? They are still building the MMCs and could easily repair the top deck, depending on the insurance.
If it was a nearly new chassis it might be worth it but it is 8 years old so the cost of removing the body and building a new one will probably mean game over. Stagecoach have rebuilt badly fire damaged buses before, one of the Scania E400 that was set alight in Torquay was rebuilt but was a relatively new bus at the time.Why is it a write off? They are still building the MMCs and could easily repair the top deck, depending on the insurance.
They lent Peoplesbus a handful of buses before the takeover and had others in warm storage so I don't think it will be an issue at the moment. Schools go back in a week so that will see an increase in buses needed. I think they've also got the Maghull circulars from some point in the near future too.
Yes, the thing is though, Gillmoss and Rock Ferry school PVR will increase significantly as they have won a lot more new school routes. Wirral ones mostly won as Selwyn's have lost their Merseytravel contracts (bar the 811). MCSL need buses, not give them away.Some school contracts will likely have changed operator over the summer. Even if there's no Merseyside & Cheshire changes there could be a vehicle being freed up in Preston or Manchester that could cascade across.
On a related note, the first two Rock Ferry examples have been delivered, YX23OUD/YX23OUG with two more expected this week...Seems that Enviro 400 FCEVs 89003, 89005, 89009-10, and Enviro400 MMCs 11639, 11641 and 11645-51 are still not registered with the DVLA yet. Could these be getting 73 registrations even though the hydrogen buses and 11639 and 11641 have provisionals according to BLotW (buslistsontheweb.co.uk) (Presumably 11645-51 do but not known what)? When you type the following registrations in the search bar on Motorscan (motorscan.co.uk) which are the provisionals you get ’Plate __xx___ not found’ suggesting its not registered:
Fleet - Provisional Reg
11639 - YX23OVM
11641 - YX23OVO
89003 - SK23CNO
89005 - SK23CNW
89009 - SK23COA
89010 - SK23COH
Sources:
BLotW (buslistsontheweb.co.uk)
Motorscan (motorscan.co.uk)
A poster on the Merseyside Dennis Dart has reported that new MMC 11679 YK73OWO is in service on route x1 Liverpool to Chester. 11679 is not due for Rock Ferry but is supposedly destined for East Midlands. Anybody any thoughts on this?On a related note, the first two Rock Ferry examples have been delivered, YX23OUD/YX23OUG with two more expected this week...
Steven Knight Media has reported some E400MMCs will be loaned to Preston and Rock Ferry until their new E400MMCs are all in serviceOusted at Preston by the new Enviro MMCs 15467/68/70/71 have moved to Rock Ferry. 15466 has moved from Chester to Rock Ferry whilst 15596 has replaced it at Chester.
A poster on the Merseyside Dennis Dart has reported that new MMC 11679 YK73OWO is in service on route x1 Liverpool to Chester. 11679 is not due for Rock Ferry but is supposedly destined for East Midlands. Anybody any thoughts on this?
Service: 1/1A: Chester to Blacon
- Service re-numbered 14/14A, no changes to route or times.
11652/3/700 at Preston, certainly seen a shot of 11653 in Blackpool on a 61.Besides 11679 which new MMCs are currently on loan to MCSL please?
The Arriva 61 was a Halton Transport route until the demise of that company. However not for discussion on this thread as it is for Stagecoach.The longstanding nonsense of three No1 bus routes is coming to an end on 24th September when Arriva Chester and Stagecoach Ribble, Mersey and Dee renumber the 1/1A Blacon Circulars to 14/14A at long last.
Chester will still have two route 1s namely the Stagecoach service to Liverpool and the Arriva 1 to Wrexham I think the STA 1 should become the 401 or the ONE. but we can't have TOO much commonsense in bus route numbering!
The source is the bustimes.org site and Arriva's own website. Stagecoach has the 14/14A changes but no service change notice YET.
Cheshire West and Chester had NO info as of 6 Sept , a bit stupid if they are instigating changes Liverpool has something equally stupid with the Runcorn 61 and the Aigburth to Bootle cross suburban the 61 meeting near Childwall Fiveways. Stupid because Arriva has only operated the Runcorn 61 since 2020 and the Aigburth 61 has its roots pre WW2 with Liverpool Corporation. The number 16 has been vacant for years and would be best but Arriva prefers confusion!
Halton Transport had a school service numbered 16 which no longer runs like the operator itself.
Apologies if this is one of Arriva’s, (Most of the Arriva batch is done), but one of them has appeared with a 73 plate (not my photo):Seems that Enviro 400 FCEVs 89003, 89005, 89009-10, and Enviro400 MMCs 11639, 11641 and 11645-51 are still not registered with the DVLA yet. Could these be getting 73 registrations even though the hydrogen buses and 11639 and 11641 have provisionals according to BLotW (buslistsontheweb.co.uk) (Presumably 11645-51 do but not known what)? When you type the following registrations in the search bar on Motorscan (motorscan.co.uk) which are the provisionals you get ’Plate __xx___ not found’ suggesting its not registered:
Fleet - Provisional Reg
11639 - YX23OVM
11641 - YX23OVO
89003 - SK23CNO
89005 - SK23CNW
89009 - SK23COA
89010 - SK23COH
Sources:
BLotW (buslistsontheweb.co.uk)
Motorscan (motorscan.co.uk)
Nothing seems to have appeared anywhere on this subject.Rumours circulating are MCSL are taking ovewr control of services 40/41 (Preston-Lancaster/Morecambe) from CNL? Anybody heard anything similar?...
What depot have they gone to and what will they be used for? CheersTransfers in from Stagecoach Manchester are ex Wigan Enviro 200 36791/96-800.