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Is the section of gwml beteen Paddington and reading the worst maintained line in the country?

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So currently No Power between Slough and Pad
Tree Down near Twyford blocking Henley Branch
Train has struck a tree in Crowthorn Area on the Gatwick line
Footbridge roof has blown onto track at Okehampton but has mostly been cleared and line should be open soon
Flooding at Chipping Sodbury and Brent Mill Viaduct
 
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Power just restored now but awaiting a move. Seems to have been dealt with fairly well.
We have moved from just outside Southall, got as far as Iver and now in the platform on the mains.

Theres a EL train been on the up platform on the reliefs for a while
 

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We're off! Kept well informed throughout by the driver, and a fairly pleasant environment throughout. Hopefully plain sailing from here.
Good luck. Apparently we're going backwards to west Drayton where we'll be turfed out.
Journey planner says all trains from West Drayton cancelled.
 

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Good luck. Apparently we're going backwards to west Drayton where we'll be turfed out.
Journey planner says all trains from West Drayton cancelled.
Now sat outside the Broadway for around 20 minutes waiting for the previous train to move!

(EDIT (16.53): Announcer at Ealing Broadway advertising it as a Reading train - now on the move 88 minutes down.)
 
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Just 5 warnings up for GWR this morning, all infrastructure related, albeit 3 are flooding/aftermath of.

Looks like they are starting to use the relief lines. 1W01 on its way to Hereford and some Crossrail movement too.
 

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Just 5 warnings up for GWR this morning, all infrastructure related, albeit 3 are flooding/aftermath of.

Looks like they are starting to use the relief lines. 1W01 on its way to Hereford and some Crossrail movement too.
Earlier OLE incident at Ladbroke Grove now fixed, various possessions also not helping things.

On a positive note it looks like the first trains are using the B&H since Newbury was flooded. 1A07 has made it through Newbury on the Up.
 

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One of the Didcot- Paddington stoppers is a 2 car 165 tonight. Very rare for a 165 to be operating on the mains, well operating from paddington
 

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That's not quite how poor or reduced (lack of) maintenance works. Everything degrades, yes, at slightly different rates.

At first, there is no noticeable increase in failures. This situation can go on for some time. Sometimes years.

But given the amount of infrastructure, there are bound to be some items that are close to failing, cracking or breaking. As time goes on, if nothing substantial is done, more items become close to failing.

With reduced resources, as more time is taken up dealing with failures, less and less time and resources are available for preventative maintenance, or for dealing with currently low priority jobs.

Meanwhile, the overall condition of the infrastructure continues to degrade. Hence the failure rate increases more quickly. If it gets really bad, the failure rate can escalate far faster than people expect.

Weather can of course have an effect. You will get more broken rails when you get cold (freezing) nights. Especially if it's warm durning the day. Rail also affects certain items.

By the time that the company's top management realise how bad it really is, it's often too late. A lot of "damage" has been done (meaning rather more items than expected will need to be replaced long before their otherwise nominal lifespan). To turn it around, you need to spend a lot of money. There is for example, no point in putting in brand new rail if the sleepers, ballast and formation are in a poor condition.

Compare to Railtrack reducing routine rail grinding and the resulting gauge corner cracking problems... BR has fallen into similar traps in the past as well.

That will be fun, it took a dispute for Western to get some extra section 4 time down there as it is.

Indeed.

The other elephant in the room is historical renewals, and how track renewals are managed.

A year or several back I recall a particularly tricky renewal on the GWML, specced as a full dig with membrane as it was an area prone to wetbeds.

TBH, the time allocated for the block was a bit tight, but was all that was avaliable. (Remember, these big blocks are being booked 2 years out to be affordable, under the delay regime, the closer to the event you book the more it costs).

On the day (weekend) of the race, usual thing, late last passenger trains so possession taken late. Foul weather (always slows thing down), some plant (remember this is a lowest cost operation) breaks down causing more delays.

So, in order to hand back on time, the work was de-scoped. It's not a full depth dig anymore, no membrane and everyone making the decision, including the Network Rail engineer who made the final call, knew that 5 to 10 years later this area would again have wet bed issues. But no one would risk the cost of an overrun to make sure the job was done properly, after all, how many of the decision makers would be around by the time the consequences of the invisible short cuts became evident? It was safe for hardback, just half a job guaranteeing problem recurrence a few years down the line. When Network Rail is in 5 year funding cycles (Control Periods) and the track renewals contracts are relet every 5 years, where's the incentive to do a propor job?

"Delay minutes are the currency of the railway and s**t flows downhill."

The one imperative in any possession is "hand back on time."

It's not unusual for a renewal to run late during the weekend but always hand back on time. Until the culture changes from "well done for handing back on time" to asking "so exactly how did you pull back on time, what corners were cut?" AND the malign influence of Schedule 4 and Schedule 8 is mitigated (ie until the regime is such that it incentivises handing back a 100% job late than a de-scoped job on time) then nothing will change.

This has been known about for years. Its particularly relevant where you have a formation which is prone to wetbeds and traffic that is busy enough to make getting longer all-line blocks for full digs rather challenging.

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Indeed.

The other elephant in the room is historical renewals, and how track renewals are managed.

A year or several back I recall a particularly tricky renewal on the GWML, specced as a full dig with membrane as it was an area prone to wetbeds.

TBH, the time allocated for the block was a bit tight, but was all that was avaliable. (Remember, these big blocks are being booked 2 years out to be affordable, under the delay regime, the closer to the event you book the more it costs).

On the day (weekend) of the race, usual thing, late last passenger trains so possession taken late. Foul weather (always slows thing down), some plant (remember this is a lowest cost operation) breaks down causing more delays.

So, in order to hand back on time, the work was de-scoped. It's not a full depth dig anymore, no membrane and everyone making the decision, including the Network Rail engineer who made the final call, knew that 5 to 10 years later this area would again have wet bed issues. But no one would risk the cost of an overrun to make sure the job was done properly, after all, how many of the decision makers would be around by the time the consequences of the invisible short cuts became evident? It was safe for hardback, just half a job guaranteeing problem recurrence a few years down the line. When Network Rail is in 5 year funding cycles (Control Periods) and the track renewals contracts are relet every 5 years, where's the incentive to do a propor job?

"Delay minutes are the currency of the railway and s**t flows downhill."

The one imperative in any possession is "hand back on time."

It's not unusual for a renewal to run late during the weekend but always hand back on time. Until the culture changes from "well done for handing back on time" to asking "so exactly how did you pull back on time, what corners were cut?" AND the malign influence of Schedule 4 and Schedule 8 is mitigated (ie until the regime is such that it incentivises handing back a 100% job late than a de-scoped job on time) then nothing will change.

This has been known about for years. Its particularly relevant where you have a formation which is prone to wetbeds and traffic that is busy enough to make getting longer all-line blocks for full digs rather challenging.

TPO
Certainly a decade back this was common possession mitigation decision cross the board on track renewals. It wasn't only sand blankets that got removed, albeit the depth of them had been cut as well to save cash, but also deep digs were cut to a skim and heavy concrete sleepers laid on poor quality ballast leading to track quality issues all too often a few years later. The industry was littered with too many targets then and in track renewals pursuing maximum renewed length was the key to drive the unit rate down and the probability up of achieving the efficiency target that paid out the bonus.
 

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As an aside from this and adding to adventure lists…
SWML blocked with engineering work which showed a bus to Guildford and connection to London which was showing yesterday as cancelled as cancelled, via Padd an alternative
This morning’s plan was completely knacked And ended up in the 730,731 bus to Heathrow from Basingstoke and Picc line from there.
 

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New day, new week, new infrastructure issue between Reading and Paddington:

Due to urgent repairs to the track between Reading and London Paddington trains have to run at reduced speed on some Reading lines.
Train services running to and from these stations will be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.
Customer Advice

Due to a track defect in near Ruscombe, some services between London Paddington to Reading maybe delayed, or terminated short of its destination. Our sincere apologies for any inconvenience that this may cause you.


 

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New day, new week, new infrastructure issue between Reading and Paddington:





Cracked crossing at Ruscombe Junction. Deemed fit for traffic now though with a speed restriction.
 

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Was causing delays of more than 15 minutes yesterday. More delay repays.

Also causing cancellations this morning.
 

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Sunday was mad.

I took the 1020 from Cardiff with the intention of getting to London. Got to Bristol Temple Meads, due to leave at 1128, sat there for a while before it was announced that the relief driver was still at Paddington. It was cancelled shortly after, presumably it being new news to GWR that the driver was almost 3 hours away from the train. I would have travelled to Westbury to connect with 1B25, though that train arrived at Taunton and sat there for over one hour!

We were told to get on the 1200 which would be leaving on time. Not much in the way of announcements and the train was silently cancelled at about 1240. It became the 1300 which did eventually leave. Got into London at 1509.

There were other cancelled trains to London from Bristol in the meantime, very unfortunate to get caught in that gap with no crew available to take any trains!
 
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Standard cross-industry agreed service reduction plan

Generally for any incident between Padd and Reading that requires a reduction in service, the order of priority for those reductions; agreed between all operators and NR:-

GWR PAD-NBY/BDW services
GWR PAD-DID services
XR ABX-MAI services

Plus below only if problem between PAD and WDT:-

Half of HX PAD-HWV services
Half of XR ABX-HAF services
GWR PAD-CDF services
GWR PAD-OXF services

All operators should be immediately implementing those plans when instructed by NR.
 

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Standard cross-industry agreed service reduction plan

Generally for any incident between Padd and Reading that requires a reduction in service, the order of priority for those reductions; agreed between all operators and NR:-

GWR PAD-NBY/BDW services
GWR PAD-DID services
XR ABX-MAI services

Plus below only if problem between PAD and WDT:-

Half of HX PAD-HWV services
Half of XR ABX-HAF services
GWR PAD-CDF services
GWR PAD-OXF services

All operators should be immediately implementing those plans when instructed by NR.
I love a quiz as much as the next person, but where on earth is WDT?
 
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