NSEWonderer
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Wouldn't even dare test those on the GWML considering its current reliability
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Acton Main Line to Acton Wells Jct electrification
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brad465
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There's only 40 of those currently on the cards, and I'm pretty sure Mendip freight traffic, which is 59/66 dominated, will remain as such for a long while yet, even if more of the 93/99 locos were ordered.
Nicholas Lewis
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For sure but intermodal should be doable
The Planner
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Hardly any, basically a few Felixstowe Wentloogs.
Class15
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London Gateway as well.
To be fair, there’s a few more than that. A couple of Southamptons’s in each direction go via Acton Wells & the WCML each day too, plus the Wentloog - Gateway trip.
59CosG95
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Now, if Freightliner were to get 93s/99s...
GRALISTAIR
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Needs to be made worthwhile - by DfT mandate perhaps?
Any FOC's inevitable response will be 'are you going to pay us to do that?' and at the moment the answer from the treasury will be to re-enact the workhouse scene from Oliver Twist.
Nicholas Lewis
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certainly need to sort the nonsense that electric freight doesn't benefit from the pooled buying NR does for the TOCs
I went through Acton Main Line station today and there are some early progress on the electrification, there are two new Cantilevers on the freight only lines which go through Acton Yard and two new bases as well. Also two new bases have been installed on the incline up to the North London Line on the down line, I presume they will use the existing retaining wall here for the new masts on the up line. Of course there many be other bases installed as well which I did not see.
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The two “through freight lines” are the Populars & are not part of Acton Yard but NR infrastructure.
Acton Yard is DB owned and consists of 4 through reception lines and many sidings along with FY dropper house.
It’s the Populars that will become electrified, not Acton Yard.
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Poplars. Even if they are popular.
Autocorrect.
Class15
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Were they so named because freight from the GW towards Victoria Park and the Poplar used them?
I hate to bring up old debates, but I think even if we choose to limit things to England and Wales, I remember it being pointed out at the time that the London Paddington - Heathrow Airport (various) was all done in that period of time. Bald Rick has already mentioned HS1 and Ctrl-adjacent works, and Mirte Bridge Jn - Willesden Jn. Labour were also in government in Scotland when they authorised wires for Airdrie - Bathgate, Edinburgh and Haymarket area, Larkhall and so on.
Heathrow was wired - just - in the Major Govt. It wasn’t commissioned until Labout had come to power in 97 though.
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Is there going to be a neutral section installed on this connection? Not only for the supply areas but also because this would make a new border between Rugby and Didcot ECRs
59CosG95
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I believe there is a neutral section planned to be installed - there is even a fly-through video of all masts/cantilevers of the scheme on LinkedIn that I linked to the "Future of the GWR Electrification" thread, although AFAICS it didn't show any in-line fittings. I'll have to take a second look!
See the original post from said thread below; I've since commented wondering exactly where the neutral sections are planned to go.
Talking of the Poplars - came across this design fly-through video of the proposed OLE on LinkedIn. (note you will need a LinkedIn account to view this!)
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Snow1964
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Just discovered there is published list of dates of work, in Old Oak Common -Acton area
LNW-GW Joint
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All paid for on the HS2 budget, presumably.
I note the letter doesn't specify which electric trains will be using the Poplar wires (empty ones, seemingly)....
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Wasn't it mentioned previously, mostly ECS moves for Crossrail?
edwin_m
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Although they are empty, during the blockade stations west of Old Oak have no access to the depot, so they would lose their service within a few days if they trains couldn't access an alternative.
The scheme does fill a longstanding gap in electrification which may in time open up some opportunities for electric freight.
The scheme does fill a longstanding gap in electrification which may in time open up some opportunities for electric freight.
Although as neither the curve to the WLL at Willesden SWS/West London Jn or the link to Wembley Yard via canal Wharf and Willesden No 7 jns id being wired as part of this the opportunities for electric freight would be limited to anything coming off the NLL, and as Felixstowe and London Gateway aren't wired, and given the limits of GW electrification, there's not really anything to take advantage without substantial extra wiring.
Oh for a strategic guiding mind!
So this one is done now when it's needed for something else, and the electrified freight route is half as much work when somebody wants to do it later. Moreover we don't have to wait years for some strategic guiding mind to make a decision and obtain twice as much funding for something nobody is even currently asking for
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No-one seems to want to mention it, so let me be the awkward cuss: much of the freight using the Poplar Lines emanates from/goes to South London and counties further south over routes with no overhead wiring.
superkev
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Isn't this line one of last ones in London with manual signal boxes and semaphores.?
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Are you referring to the Dudding Hill route?