ENCT freebies and discounts?

[Travelmonkey]

Hi all I am hoping to poke the hive mind here to work out what discounts ir free rides I can get on trams & light rail in England,

 

[stadler]

Hi all I am hoping to poke the hive mind here to work out what discounts ir free rides I can get on trams & light rail in England,

Sheffield trams are the only trams that accept all ENCTS passes. You can use an ENCTS pass issued by any council anywhere in England on these trams. But this is the only one. The others are much more restrictive.

Croydon trams accept ENCTS passes issued by London Councils only. No other councils passes are accepted.

Nottingham trams accept ENCTS passes issued by Nottingham City Council or Nottinghamshire County Council only. No other councils passes are accepted.

Blackpool trams accept ENCTS passes issued by Blackpool Council or Wyre Council only. No other councils passes are accepted.

Manchester trams accept ENCTS passes issued by Transport For Greater Manchester only. No other councils passes are accepted.

Birmingham trams accept ENCTS passes issued by Transport For West Midlands only. No other councils passes are accepted.

Edinburgh trams accept Scottish Concession passes issued by Edinburgh City Council only. No other councils passes are accepted.

So unfortunately the trams are much more restrictive. Other than the Sheffield trams they only give free travel to ENCTS holders who live in the area.

 

[Travelmonkey]

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So unfortunately the trams are much more restrictive. Other than the Sheffield trams they only give free travel to ENCTS holders who live in the area.

Ah well can't blame me for asking, I know Nottingham do a discount on their TVMs and I have my disabled railcard on oyster if I bounce onto a Croydon tramlink, I belive the Tyne metro does something for visitors too but I can't remember,

 

[stadler]

Ah well can't blame me for asking, I know Nottingham do a discount on their TVMs and I have my disabled railcard on oyster if I bounce onto a Croydon tramlink, I belive the Tyne metro does something for visitors too but I can't remember,

Yes on the Nottingham trams you can purchase a £4.00 concession day ticket if you have an ENCTS pass issued by any other English council or authority which certainly saves some money.

Tyne & Wear Metro sell a heavily discounted annual ticket giving unlimited travel on all Tyne & Wear trains (and Northern between Newcastle and Sunderland and the Shields Ferry service) for ENCTS pass holders. This costs £12.00 for ENCTS passes issued by Tyne & Wear or costs £24.00 for ENCTS passes issued by any other English council or authority. It is good value if you use it a lot.

But it is worth pointing out that this Tyne & Wear Metro ticket is only good value and cheaper than the full price adult day tickets if you plan to use the Tyne & Wear Metro multiple times a year.

 

[Travelmonkey]

Yes on the Nottingham trams you can buy a £4.00 concession day ticket if you have an ENCTS pass issued by any other English council or authority.

Tyne & Wear Metro sell a heavily discounted annual ticket giving unlimited travel on all Tyne & Wear trains (and Northern between Newcastle and Sunderland and the Shields Ferry service) for ENCTS pass holders. This costs £12.00 for ENCTS passes issued by Tyne & Wear or costs £24.00 for ENCTS passes issued by any other English council or authority. It is good value if you use it a lot.

But it is worth pointing out that this Tyne & Wear Metro ticket is only good value and cheaper than full price day tickets if you plan to use the Tyne & Wear Metro multiple times a year.

I do have friends in Sunderland so have been debating a trip for a while, wanna try and get some of the old and new stock while they're in hybrid working, currently hoping for a stint in September and having my ENCT as a gold card would certainly make the toon more attractive too me. I mentioned on another thread I need to pop up to the NE to do Beamish.

Do need to check if the Northumberland line has been added to the Gold card though,

 

[stadler]

I do have friends in Sunderland so have been debating a trip for a while, wanna try and get some of the old and new stock while they're in hybrid working, currently hoping for a stint in September and having my ENCT as a gold card would certainly make the toon more attractive too me. I mentioned on another thread I need to pop up to the NE to do Beamish.

Do need to check if the Northumberland line has been added to the Gold card though,

No unfortunately it has not. The new Northumberland Line is excluded. The website states that the Gold Card is not valid on the new Northumberland Line services.

 

[bluegoblin7]

I have my disabled railcard on oyster if I bounce onto a Croydon tramlink

No discount for Railcard holders on the London Trams, they're charged on the same scale as buses (flat fare £1.75 for unlimited journeys within an hour). Touch in only, no need to touch out (except at Wimbledon).

 

[pitdiver]

The free travel for Nottingham CC ENCT pass holders is only after 0930 Mon to Fri. However together with my PTAC I can get from my local station, Shirebrook to Nottingham for £2.30. Return Off peak A real bargain. If you are a Nottingham City Council's mobility pass it's free all day

 

[Travelmonkey]

No unfortunately it has not. The new Northumberland Line is excluded. The website states that the Gold Card is not valid on the new Northumberland Line services.

Not the news(ham) I wanted to hear I'll mind my manors on this forum though.

 

[Haywain]

Some tram systems are also covered by Plusbus tickets which give a railcard discount. Blackpool, for part of the route, and Birmingham/West Midlands for the whole route are definitely covered and Nottingham trams are included but it isn't clear whether that is the whole route to Hucknall or just part of it.

 

[cool110]

Blackpool, for part of the route

There's also the bus/tram through tickets that cover the full route.

 

[Travelmonkey]

Some tram systems are also covered by Plusbus tickets which give a railcard discount. Blackpool, for part of the route, and Birmingham/West Midlands for the whole route are definitely covered and Nottingham trams are included but it isn't clear whether that is the whole route to Hucknall or just part of it.

Might add that or just get a zone 1 ticket when passing through on Saturday, due to engineering I've opted to use Ciltern from snow Hill rather than my usual route(s), that and any excuse to use the loco hauled is always a benefit,

 

[mangad]

Manchester trams accept ENCTS passes issued by Transport For Greater Manchester only. No other councils passes are accepted.

In Greater Manchester you have to pay £10 a year to add trams (and trains) to the pass. If you don't pay, you only get bus travel. (Details on the TfGM website.)

 

[AlastairFraser]

Nottingham trams are included but it isn't clear whether that is the whole route to Hucknall or just part of it.

I think it covers the whole way out to Toton and Clifton, but only Moor Bridge and Phoenix Park on the northern branches. At least that's what I covered when I did the network on a Nottingham Plus Bus. No issues with conductors.

 

[Edvid]

You can travel for free on the Luton DART,* but only with tickets obtained through an online concessionary account (which you have to apply for 3 working days in advance).

[* Usually £4.90 per adult single]

 

[stadler]

You can travel for free on the Luton DART,* but only with tickets obtained through an online concessionary account (which you have to apply for 3 working days in advance).

[* Usually £4.90 per adult single]

That almost seems pointless to offer that as using the Arriva bus is so much simpler. Arriva have twelve buses an hour in each direction (every five minutes in each direction) with a journey time of five minutes. If you have an ENCTS pass then it is so much simpler to just walk outside and take the bus then going to all that trouble of doing it online. I wonder if Luton DART have done that purposely to discourage ENCTS pass holders from using it. Making you sign up for an account and then apply for tickets in advance makes it so complicating that almost nobody will bother. Also the majority of people who do not have internet access will be ENCTS holders. If they really wanted ENCTS holders to use it then they could easily just allow them to tap their card on the barriers or show it to the gateline assistant.

 

[Haywain]

Also the majority of people who do not have internet access will be ENCTS holders.

Well, without internet access they probably won't have booked flights either, so there will be nothing for them to worry about.

Now can we leave out this constant nonsense that old and disabled people, (because that's who ENCTS pass holders are) are somehow incapable of using the internet.

 

[AlastairFraser]

That almost seems pointless to offer that as using the Arriva bus is so much simpler. Arriva have twelve buses an hour in each direction (every five minutes in each direction) with a journey time of five minutes. If you have an ENCTS pass then it is so much simpler to just walk outside and take the bus then going to all that trouble of doing it online. I wonder if Luton DART have done that purposely to discourage ENCTS pass holders from using it. Making you sign up for an account and then apply for tickets in advance makes it so complicating that almost nobody will bother. Also the majority of people who do not have internet access will be ENCTS holders. If they really wanted ENCTS holders to use it then they could easily just allow them to tap their card on the barriers or show it to the gateline assistant.

It's designed for Luton residents and potentially older airport workers to be able to use the DART really. The airport and DART are owned by Luton Council, so this is their real plan.

 

[Russel]

The North Wales 1Bws ticket can be brought at a discounted rate with an English ENCTS bus pass, though you usually have to ask a couple of times and have the 1Bws web page loaded on your phone ready to show the driver who has no idea what you're asking for...

That said, the full price 1Bws ticket is still good value.

 

[Travelmonkey]

Good go note, got stung by arriva Wales on a couple of occasions last time I travelled with them as unlike England they don't have a fare cap,

 

[Russel]

Good go note, got stung by arriva Wales on a couple of occasions last time I travelled with them as unlike England they don't have a fare cap,

Yes, same, before I knew about 1Bws... Shocking reminder of how expensive bus travel is without the cap!

 

[Travelmonkey]

Yes, same, before I knew about 1Bws... Shocking reminder of how expensive bus travel is without the cap!

Was a while ago mind, although it's where I got my profile pic on here from was that trip,

 

[nwales58]

Good go note, got stung by arriva Wales on a couple of occasions last time I travelled with them as unlike England they don't have a fare cap,

In the north we do have capping at the day ticket price. I seldom see anyone using touch in+out though.

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