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SWT have put out a warning from 18:00 Sunday for bad weather
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Storm Isha may affect your journey in parts of England, Scotland and Wales on Sunday 21 and Monday 22 January
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MP393
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Heart of Wales line & Blaenau branch both closed tomorrow so far for TfW
londonmidland
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Whilst most of us will be asleep when the worst gusts occur, I think we’ll be waking up to quite a bit of disruption Monday morning.
Higher resolution models are now being issued, as we get closer to the event. Seeing these sorts of gusts persist from lower resolution charts to higher resolution charts is quite worrying.
Higher resolution models are now being issued, as we get closer to the event. Seeing these sorts of gusts persist from lower resolution charts to higher resolution charts is quite worrying.
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I'm flying from Heathrow to Manchester on Monday night.
Could be interesting!
Could be interesting!
Gonzalez
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Hoping for an update from the Night Riveria sleeper as i'm booked with them on Sunday Night. Or else, it's a spanner in the works.
The vast majority of people will be coming from a building, I would hope that people wouldn’t go for walks etc with their only return option being a bus when a large storm was incoming.
This is all fine - but only if the “do not travel” warning comes from an authority high enough to be accompanied by an order that hotels etc must provide accommodation / food etc for those who are stranded (at the expense of the authority providing the warning), that no one may be penalised /disadvantaged for not being where they’re supposed to be etc. In other words “do not travel” means “state of emergency”.
But given the bus companies cannot do that, how can you expect them to send out their buses in conditions that are dangerous to run them, when they are liable if the buses crash and someone is injured?
I'm flying from LHR to Helsinki early tomorrow so it could be interesting. I'm heading to LHR at lunchtime from Essex noting that GA have advised people to travel earlier
I expect that the company or body that makes that decision does so realising that they are also fully responsible for everything that happens if they make that decision - at the very least full responsibility for people trying to make return halves of journeys. Cancel things for safety reasons by all means - but accept that in itself brings a responsibility for those who are left stranded.
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Good luck sleeping if the weather overnight proves to be just as bad as is being widely forecast!
TT-ONR-NRN
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Yes I mistakenly thought it was last night. I now sit happily on the metro from Sofia Airport to Sofia. Success! Thanks
Banham7
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East Midlands Railway have released their latest advice on a route by route basis, the London-Midlands intercity routes are the most affected, with a significantly altered timetable in operation after 6pm. There will also be no EMR Connect / Luton Airport Express between London and Bedford after 6pm. EMR Regional routes appear to just have speed restrictions after 6pm and subject to cancellations on Monday.
More Details: https://www.eastmidlandsrailway.co....ruption-expected-across-emr-network-sunday-21
More Details: https://www.eastmidlandsrailway.co....ruption-expected-across-emr-network-sunday-21
bramling
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Met Office have recently expanded their amber warning to cover pretty much the entire country, with only a small patch still in the lesser yellow warning, mainly London and the immediate Home Counties plus Essex, Suffolk and Norfolk.
Whilst the intensity of this storm doesn’t seem particularly historic, what does seem exceptional is both the area covered, and the duration it seems likely to last. It therefore seems likely we can expect some pretty serious disruption from late afternoon onwards, pretty much anywhere.
Even my local Met Office forecast, which thankfully is still in the yellow warning area, has SEVEN consecutive hours of wind gusts in excess of 50 mph. That is very unusual.
Whilst the intensity of this storm doesn’t seem particularly historic, what does seem exceptional is both the area covered, and the duration it seems likely to last. It therefore seems likely we can expect some pretty serious disruption from late afternoon onwards, pretty much anywhere.
Even my local Met Office forecast, which thankfully is still in the yellow warning area, has SEVEN consecutive hours of wind gusts in excess of 50 mph. That is very unusual.
Yep - it seems things have changed. Hoping that the GEML holds up in it so I can get to Heathrow. It looks like the storm will be following my flight in the morning.
bramling
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The impression I get from weather forums is that there is some surprise that the London area hasn’t been included. I think it’s fair to say tonight isn’t going to be nice for anyone, with disruption likely pretty much anywhere across the entire country.
It’s probably reasonable advice for anyone not to embark upon a non-essential journey or outing that isn’t going to be completed by the late afternoon, especially longer distance.
I'm hoping to make it across to Heathrow noting there was already reduced service planned on rail and tube connections at Heathrow this weekend.
It is starting to get breezy here in Essex. I always feel that these forecasts are accurate but actually a few hours ahead of when it is predicted.
When the storm occurred that caused the damage on Jersey, I was in Scotland. Someone who lives in Lincolnshire left a day early to avoid the storm. Driving down the A1 the next day, apart from heavy rain I did not experience any great strength of wind.
When the storm occurred that caused the damage on Jersey, I was in Scotland. Someone who lives in Lincolnshire left a day early to avoid the storm. Driving down the A1 the next day, apart from heavy rain I did not experience any great strength of wind.
bramling
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If at all possible it’s probably good advice to bring forward any planned journeys. It’s certainly the case that now is the time to travel in preference to this evening.
In addition, tomorrow morning will see disruption for sure.
Snow1964
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If indoors with good double or triple glazing, probably won't hear it. Although those with poor windows will.Good luck sleeping if the weather overnight proves to be just as bad as is being widely forecast!
Meanwhile Met Office has updated the warning, with earlier end time, of 6am Monday. So no warnings over rush hour.
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All of Avanti's Glasgow-Lancaster services are only running between Glasgow and Carlisle. However, that's OK for pax between Lancaster and Carlisle, because "You can travel on the Avanti West Coast service immediately before or after this train with your original ticket". Except there aren't any.
TPE services do appear to still be running (1M64 Glasgow-Lancaster is currently at Penrith running 50 late), but I'm not sure how many people you'll wedge on a 5-car 397.
Hopefully not many people have tried to travel today, given the weather warnings and the fact that Preston-Lancaster is shut.
TPE services do appear to still be running (1M64 Glasgow-Lancaster is currently at Penrith running 50 late), but I'm not sure how many people you'll wedge on a 5-car 397.
Hopefully not many people have tried to travel today, given the weather warnings and the fact that Preston-Lancaster is shut.
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Im hoping Avanti don’t play their usual games cancelling everything north of Preston. Im travelling on 9S80 from Preston to Edinburgh with a lot of hope today, touch wood its not affected too bad
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9S80 and 1S72 are currently showing as the only two Anglo-Scottish Avantis that aren't either cancelled or terminating at Crewe or Preston. Good luck!
Disruption on TPE in the Dewsbury area; an inspection of the line is occurring. No further info at present (Source: a TPE Guard)
Edit: the following is on NRE
www.nationalrail.co.uk
Edit: the following is on NRE
Incident: Dewsbury | National Rail
Disruption between Huddersfield and Leeds . Find details of all current incidents on National Rail Enquiries.
I'm travelling eastbound on TPE this afternoon; anyone got any further info?
ScotRail158725
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Oh dear. Those 2 will no doubt no join the list aswell. Hopefully TP to Carlisle is my saving grace
Islineclear3_1
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Some people have to go to work (to maintain essential services) and do not have other means of transportIf the company puts out do not travel warnings, and passengers decide to still travel, that's on them for getting stranded.
If someone gets seriously injured or killed as a direct result of the weather conditions (i.e. a service crashes into something), everyone will be quick enough to blame the company for not stopping services sooner .. they cannot win in this situation.
Agreed. My bold
Anyone know if some trains are able to go via Methley to get around the problem?Disruption on TPE in the Dewsbury area; an inspection of the line is occurring. No further info at present (Source: a TPE Guard)
Edit: the following is on NRE
Incident: Dewsbury | National Rail
Disruption between Huddersfield and Leeds . Find details of all current incidents on National Rail Enquiries.
I'm travelling eastbound on TPE this afternoon; anyone got any further info?
Edit: yes they can, where the staff sign the route (which wasn't the case on my train, unfortunately)
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