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I agree,but look Bob has to say something,rail staff of all grades will be facing the biggest attack on their job's and t's+c's in the coming years that has ever been seen. Now depending on your veiws this may or may not be a good thing but one thing is for sure we had better get used to...

No idea on their contract's, but temporary or permanent it must still be a big blow to think that you have no job after december.

Whatever your thoughts on Bob Crow if 500 members of his union face the dole he has every right to stick is oar in. Whatever the right's and wrong's of this desicion in today's financial climate, let's not forget the human cost of these staff losing their incomes

He did say "in my opinion" So guys how long are we talking here for the role of the gaurd to still be in place 5,10,20 years

I joined the railways at 16 having absoloutly no intrest in trains,I still don't have a intrest in things such as a certain class of engine or unit,but over my career I have developed a appreciation of the industry that has so far provided me with a decent living and has allowed me to make a lot...

You know what would happen if a member of staff was to be disciplined for expressing their views on a public forum don't you. The unions would ballot their members for industrial action.

I'm not a train driver,however I have no jealousy of the good wages they earn. For me they are the last of the traditional working classes that continue to stick it to the government and get up the noses of daily mail readers. For that I take my hat of to them. Btw if say all drivers had...

Ill be honest here I have total sympathy with public sector workers having pay frozen and even cut. I as a rail worker have been happy to accept a pay rise in line with inflation even during the "good times". If this government is serious about us all being in it together why did they cut tax...

This is were capatilists get their knickers in a twist,a driver under a market system should be paid what the market dictates. At present a driver is paid what the company is prepared to pay him,this is the golden rule of right wing economics. Except when it doesn't suit their own financial intrests

I don't really see where anyone has actually insulted the public. The basic point here is the employees have a frustration,they have legaly and democraticaly decided to resist changes to their pension scheme or ask for extra pay for doing extra duties outside their current agreed t's and c's...

You are missing the fact that rail workers hold a good hand of cards. Let's say swt or emt sack all their staff tomorrow,how long do you think it will be before they have a service up and running again,bearing in mind the company's will already have invested hundreds of thousands of pounds...

That's a good point you make,but why is this so,could it be in the words of a old union song that "money speaks for money but never for its own".

Thing is I don't percieve workers today as being half as militant as in the 70's. Personally I have been a railwayman 20 years and a gaurd for 14 of those,I have been out on strike once for one day in that time and I have never and never would cross a picket line. As for anti union legislation...

I agree sort of that we don't live in a true free market society,its a mix of corpratism and rigged markets. All workers are doing here is trying to extract the best deal they can,they know full well that a lot of money is being made out of the olympics and want a slice,nothing more nothing...

The information I posted was to illustrate evidence that these firms are upto no good,as you say off topic but relevant to the point I was making.

You asked for evidence of cartels.

In 2009 energy giants EON and GDF were fined €1.1 billion for carving up the european gas markets between them. Do you want me to post any more unethical practices by those nice venture capatilists that own these thiefs.

Where is your evidence prices would be higher under state control. If anything the utility companies are a cartel that have jacked prices and profits up

What you seem to be describing here is a communist society were each person contributes to the greater good of their fellow human according to their ability. We live in a capatilist society,and the people who do the biggest amount of crying when workers orgainise and use capatilist tactics to...

The point of the dks switch is that when it is turned to off,the doors are de- energized,I have been told when being assessed that it's important to key to out after completing door duties as Northern have suffered a lot of doors open in traffic due to the switch being left keyed in while in...