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    Fare Evasion - Sydenham - 13/12/2023

    I'm quite aware of these points but that doesn't stop my frustration at witnessing blatant criminal acts going unpunished when there were opportunities to prevent and the response was a shrug of the shoulders. I'm perplexed at your persistence with this particular suggestion I cannot...
  2. M

    Fare Evasion - Sydenham - 13/12/2023

    You're right. In fact me having the temerity to even bother reporting witnessing such an act has probably overburdened numerous members of staff and distracted them from their official duties. I'll refrain in future. I think this thread genuinely makes me realise that we should all just turn a...
  3. M

    Fare Evasion - Sydenham - 13/12/2023

    I'm not sure about the fare increase I'd be willing to accept, but I and other passengers would be a lot less aggravated if we didn't have the amount fare evasion costs the industry rammed down our throats every time fares are increased and penalty fares are incorrectly issued, only to witness...
  4. M

    Fare Evasion - Sydenham - 13/12/2023

    Great. We can add this to the Disputes and Prosecutions template: Don't worry about the amount you've evaded over the last few years, the railway's got other priorities.
  5. M

    Fare Evasion - Sydenham - 13/12/2023

    If it was one member of staff then you'd have a point but as numerous posts have indicated, I interacted with a number of staff members at different points and was fobbed off at each point. I also said that it's endemic at a number of stations I have seen and reported this. Please could you...
  6. M

    Fare Evasion - Sydenham - 13/12/2023

    That's for the railway to solve - they seem quite effective at holding trains or putting them off at the next station when someone refuses to buy a ticket on board on my usual journey. I'm simply reporting what I saw and the way in which individuals didn't react. 1702488319 I mean the initial...
  7. M

    Fare Evasion - Sydenham - 13/12/2023

    Frankly he should be refused boarding if he does not have proof of payment. In the same way you would on other modes of transport.
  8. M

    Fare Evasion - Sydenham - 13/12/2023

    I reported it - first question BTP asked was whether I am a member of staff or member of the public. In fact after reporting it to Southern, the station staff and BTP I was advised as follows: BTP - Inform station staff when you leave the train. We'll attend at Victoria. Southern - Inform BTP...
  9. M

    Fare Evasion - Sydenham - 13/12/2023

    It's categorically not a wind up and I was struggling to find a cogent or reasonable response to the points. Perhaps you'd like the BTP reference or correspondence I have with Southern online as evidence? I can only conclude you were at Sydenham when this happened which is why you're happy to...
  10. M

    Fare Evasion - Sydenham - 13/12/2023

    The number of times I have witnessed this at London stations makes me think the problem may be endemic in these particular locations.
  11. M

    Fare Evasion - Sydenham - 13/12/2023

    And there you have it. "Just do what anyone else would and ignore it". If we're only talking about a few quid then maybe you could make that suggestion to the RPIs next time they hammer someone for £100+ over a £1.70 ticket? The point is this person could have been caught but wasn't due to the...
  12. M

    Fare Evasion - Sydenham - 13/12/2023

    Though there would be the possibility of "motivated by personal advantage" for the member of staff in not engaging the offender, hence disinterested is valid. It's a shame pedants don't necessarily check all the ways a word can be used. 1702485558 There was approximately a 5 minute period...
  13. M

    Fare Evasion - Sydenham - 13/12/2023

    If fare evasion didn't just go for low hanging fruit, there might be more revenue generated. 1702485140 I have in the past, yes, when tailgating me through barriers. I logged it with BTP because I knew station staff wouldn't - which happens every time I point it out at the station.
  14. M

    Fare Evasion - Sydenham - 13/12/2023

    It's quite difficult not to when you witness how staff can so blatantly ignore someone committing criminal activity and remain in their roles.
  15. M

    Fare Evasion - Sydenham - 13/12/2023

    If they targeted Sydenham then ASLEF's ransom demand, sorry, pay request could easily be met.
  16. M

    Fare Evasion - Sydenham - 13/12/2023

    I'd say it's more than a slight exaggeration. It's fascinating how the railway is happy to impose draconian punishments when it comes to dealing with people who don't have railcards, correct tickets etc but when they're asked to deal with obvious evasion it's a case of "not my job, guv". As the...
  17. M

    Fare Evasion - Sydenham - 13/12/2023

    Engage the party in question and demand proof of fare payment, as you would on a train.
  18. M

    Fare Evasion - Sydenham - 13/12/2023

    It is a regular occurrence. Staff stand by each time and watch it happen. This does not mean that failing to make an attempt to prevent it is correct. The member of staff in question wandered off to talk to someone at the ticket machine then returned to the barrier. They were still there and...
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    Fare Evasion - Sydenham - 13/12/2023

    I'm not sure if this is in the right place but feel free to move. Sydenham station at 12:40 today and an individual pushed straight through the barriers and onto the platform - no attempt to pay. I notified the station staff that he was still on the platform and they could not have looked less...
  20. M

    Schoolboy, 15, dragged off train by conductor

    As predictable as night following day, that minority of one is always guaranteed to take the side of the railway. There's another poster earlier on in the thread saying there's three sides to every story. As usual, the apologists are out in force.

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