Actual 377 and 387 Cascades (GN, SN, SE)

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Planned 387 and 377 cascades to Southern and Southeastern in 2025

Thanks @bramling I really think train interior design should first undergo a "common blimmin' sense..." check from this forum's members. :) I recall Siemens class 450 initially had first class toward the middle of one trailer car. Very same effect - people walking through first, to use the...

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The above thread is in Speculative Discussion, and I get why as there is a lot of speculation in it.

However, I would like to actually keep track of the actual transfers of 387s from Great Northern to Southern, and subsequently 377s from Southern to Southeastern, and it has now happened, so I've made this thread for actual reports of these transfers.

Does anyone have a list of all of the units that have transferred so far please?

 

[stadler]

Planned 387 and 377 cascades to Southern and Southeastern in 2025

Thanks @bramling I really think train interior design should first undergo a "common blimmin' sense..." check from this forum's members. :) I recall Siemens class 450 initially had first class toward the middle of one trailer car. Very same effect - people walking through first, to use the...

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The above thread is in Speculative Discussion, and I get why as there is a lot of speculation in it.

However, I would like to actually keep track of the actual transfers of 387s from Great Northern to Southern, and subsequently 377s from Southern to Southeastern, and it has now happened, so I've made this thread for actual reports of these transfers.

Does anyone have a list of all of the units that have transferred so far please?

I know that these units have definitely transferred so far:

GN to SN:
387 123
387 126
387 128
387 129
387 302

SN to SE:
377 121
377 122

There was also a GWR livery 387 at Lovers Walk recently but i notice that has gone back to GN for now.

 

[bramling]

I know that these units have definitely transferred so far:

GN to SN:
387 123
387 126
387 128
387 129
387 302

SN to SE:
377 121
377 122

I believe that’s still the current state of play. 387101 is out for ETCS project works, and I believe 387107 is stopped.

 

[jammmmmsssssss]

I believe that’s still the current state of play. 387101 is out for ETCS project works, and I believe 387107 is stopped.

Why is 387107 stopped?

 

[bramling]

Why is 387107 stopped?

ISTR damage from a fatality incident. It’s been OOS for a good few months now.

 

[jammmmmsssssss]

ISTR damage from a fatality incident. It’s been OOS for a good few months now.

Thanks. 387101 has been out for its ETCS fitment for years now

 

[Islineclear3_1]

So no more 377/1's from Southern?

 

[D365]

Thanks. 387101 has been out for its ETCS fitment for years now

”First in Class” fitments are never quick. 66039 and 67002 have been stood down for nigh-on two years with no sign of returning to mainline operation in the near future.

To bring it back to the 387s - is it known how many of units 102-129 will additionally be fitted with Alstom ETCS at this time?

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

So no more 377/1's from Southern?

They're not all going over...

 

[St. Paddy]

”First in Class” fitments are never quick. 66039 and 67002 have been stood down for nigh-on two years with no sign of returning to mainline operation in the near future.

To bring it back to the 387s - is it known how many of units 002-029 will additionally be fitted with Alstom ETCS at this time?

101-113

 

[D365]

101-113

Thanks. And I have amended my original post to cite the correct subclass.

 

[stadler]

Unit number 387 120 has just transferred to Southern and is currently at Selhurst depot. The brings it to 5× 387/1s and 1x 387/3s that Southern currently have.

 

[Sutton in Ant]

So no more 377/1's from Southern?

In total, Southeastern Railway will be getting 13 377s 121 - 133 from Southern Railway.