Aiming to travel on Class 321 units

[Class360/1]

Now that all the Class 360's (I think that's what they are called) have all gone, all lines are 321 720 so yh, you can do all on a 321.

Yes, I never got to say goodbye to the 360’s they were good trains

 

[class321]

Yes, I never got to say goodbye to the 360’s they were good trains

Were they them purple ones with those white doors that slam shut?

 

[Class360/1]

Were they them purple ones with those white doors that slam shut?

Yes

 

[class321]

Yes

Yh, I never really liked them, I think my friend did though.

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Today's 321's:

321.310 Witham-Braintree shuttles
321.315/329/407/429 and 322.482 Ingatestone-Ipswich
321.301/305/306/340 Colchester-Clacton/Walton
321.341 Manningtree-Harwich shuttles

321.421 stabled Colchester station

 

[class321]

Today's 321's:

321.310 Witham-Braintree shuttles
321.315/329/407/429 and 322.482 Ingatestone-Ipswich
321.301/305/306/340 Colchester-Clacton/Walton
321.341 Manningtree-Harwich shuttles

321.421 stabled Colchester station

Nice thanks, I've been on 407, 429 and 421. Was that all for today?

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Nice thanks, I've been on 407, 429 and 421. Was that all for today?

Yes.

 

[class321]

Yes.

That's quite less even for their reduced service.

 

[class321]

Nothing is set in stone.

Anything can happen and any serviceable unit could be out in service. But the weekends generally see a slightly reduced service compared to a weekday. And remember, as mentioned upthread, there will be a lot less units running over Easter due to engineering works. Don't be surprised if some services are only 4-car - i.e. a sole unit

When I went on the first, I ended up getting 8 carriage units all the time.
322483 + 321434 (I went in 434)
321436 + 321423 (I went in 436)
321326 + 321419 (I went in 419)
321317 + 321338 (I went in 338)
3213-- + 321485 (I went in 485)
321902 + Renatus 321.

 

[JonathanH]

That's quite less even for their reduced service.

As pointed out before, London Liverpool Street to Ingatestone and the Southend Victoria and Southminster lines are shut all of the long weekend.

 

[Islineclear3_1]

As pointed out before, London Liverpool Street to Ingatestone and the Southend Victoria and Southminster lines are shut all of the long weekend.

Quite.

So that's the reason why there are less units in service over the Easter weekend. All 4-car

And @class321, I did not post the Ingatestone-Norwich's as they are off-topic for this thread

 

[class321]

As pointed out before, London Liverpool Street to Ingatestone and the Southend Victoria and Southminster lines are shut all of the long weekend.

Oh yes, I see now.

 

[class321]

Quite.

So that's the reason why there are less units in service over the Easter weekend. All 4-car

And @class321, I did not post the Ingatestone-Norwich's as they are off-topic for this thread

Fair enough .

 

[Class360/1]

I went trainspotting at Colchester North today and saw:

745104,
755331,
322485+321319,
321332+322482,
321434+321339,
745009,
321421,
66561,
321302+321313,
321321+321429,
322485+321319,
321310

 

[class321]

I went trainspotting at Colchester North today and saw:

745104,
755331,
322485+321319,
321332+322482,
321434+321339,
745009,
321421,
66561,
321302+321313,
321321+321429,
322485+321319,
321310

I seem to be seeing 321434 a lot, even though I don't trainspot, and most of the non PRM units you found all belong to the Ex Silverlink set (421-437) 321434, 321421, 321429.

 

[Class360/1]

I seem to be seeing 321434 a lot, even though I don't trainspot, and most of the non PRM units you found all belong to the Ex Silverlink set (421-437) 321434, 321421, 321429.

Oh cool

 

[NSEFAN]

321325 + 321429 1Y08 Southend Vic
321304 + 321320 1F21 ex Braintree
321322 + 321335 2K18 Southend Vic
322485 1K20 Southend Vic
321312 + 321337 2K43 ex Southend Vic
321313 + 321338 1K22 Southend Vic
322484 + 322482 1K59 ex Southend Vic
321436 + 321342 2K36 Southend Vic
321309 + 322481 1N24 Colchester
321902 + 321310 1Y41 ex Ipswich
321308 2F54 Colchester
321427 1N39 ex Colchester
321406 + 321327 1N26 Colchester
321332 + 321336 2F45 ex Colchester
321339 + 321318 1N38 Colchester
321428 2F68 Colchester
321433 + 321326 2F74 Colchester


321321 and 321314 on Wickford-Southminster shuttles


For those interested, ex-LO 317719 on Stratford-Meridian Water shuttles

315838 + 315858 on Shenfield stoppers (2W48 observed)

Will update as I see more units.

 

[class321]

321325 + 321429 1Y08 Southend Vic
321304 + 321320 1F21 ex Braintree
321322 + 321335 2K18 Southend Vic
322485 1K20 Southend Vic
321312 + 321337 2K43 ex Southend Vic
321313 + 321338 1K22 Southend Vic


For those interested, ex-LO 317719 on Stratford-Meridian Water shuttles

Will update as I see more units.

I thought the ones in bold aren't being used. Been a while since I have seen those 2 units. Thanks anyways .

 

[Class360/1]

321325 + 321429 1Y08 Southend Vic
321304 + 321320 1F21 ex Braintree
321322 + 321335 2K18 Southend Vic
322485 1K20 Southend Vic
321312 + 321337 2K43 ex Southend Vic
321313 + 321338 1K22 Southend Vic


For those interested, ex-LO 317719 on Stratford-Meridian Water shuttles

Will update as I see more units.

Thanks for the info

I thought the ones in bold aren't being used. Been a while since I have seen those 2 units. Thanks anyways

I saw 321342 R Barnes coupled to 321330 at Colchester north last week.

 

[class321]

Thanks for the info

I saw 321342 R Barnes coupled to 321330 at Colchester north last week.

321342 I have seen quite a lot to be honest. I seem to be seeing the same Non PRM units everytime

 

[Class360/1]

321342 I have seen quite a lot to be honest. I seem to be seeing the same Non PRM units everytime

That’s the opposite for me! Always seeing prm compliant units, and if I see a non prm unit it’s always one with navy blue doors!

 

[class321]

That’s the opposite for me! Always seeing prm compliant units, and if I see a non prm unit it’s always one with navy blue doors!

All the red door ones are either off lease, scrapped or warm stored. According to Uk rail log, 361, 440, 441, 443 are the only ones active, but I haven't seen any of them for a while. 361 I saw sometime in February. There are also quite a lot of pink door ones and the NXEA livery ones. 427 is out today but I have no chance of riding it.

 

[class321]

321325 + 321429 1Y08 Southend Vic
321304 + 321320 1F21 ex Braintree
321322 + 321335 2K18 Southend Vic
322485 1K20 Southend Vic
321312 + 321337 2K43 ex Southend Vic
321313 + 321338 1K22 Southend Vic
322484 + 322482 1K59 ex Southend Vic
321436 + 321342 2K36 Southend Vic
321309 + 322481 1N24 Colchester
321902 + 321310 1Y41 ex Ipswich
321308 2F54 Colchester
321427 1N39 ex Colchester
321406 + 321327 1N26 Colchester
321332 + 321336 2F45 ex Colchester
321339 + 321318 1N38 Colchester
321428 2F68 Colchester
321433 + 321326 2F74 Colchester


321321 and 321314 on Wickford-Southminster shuttles


For those interested, ex-LO 317719 on Stratford-Meridian Water shuttles

315838 + 315858 on Shenfield stoppers (2W48 observed)

Will update as I see more units.

Isn't this unit off lease?

 

[NSEFAN]

Isn't this unit off lease?

Might have muddled my numbers. Someone with access to actual gen or their own observations will need to confirm that it wasn't in fact 443!

 

[class321]

Might have muddled my numbers. Someone with access to actual gen or their own observations will need to confirm that it wasn't in fact 443!

What colours were the door?
If they were blue then it could be 433 or 333 if it was red then it would be 443

 

[NSEFAN]

What colours were the door?
If they were blue then it could be 433 or 333 if it was red then it would be 443

Sorry, I can't recall that. Didn't manage to photograph it. Pretty sure there was at least one 4 in the number, so I'll gladly update my post if someone else can confirm what it was.

 

[Wolfie]

I think the Renatus was a waste of money and ruining of the 321s.

An enthusiast's view rather than a passenger's one. From the latter perspective Renatus units (when everything works properly!) are orders of magnitude better.

 

[class321]

An enthusiast's view rather than a passenger's one. From the latter perspective Renatus units (when everything works properly!) are orders of magnitude better.

I do see what you mean.

 

[Bikeman78]

An enthusiast's view rather than a passenger's one. From the latter perspective Renatus units (when everything works properly!) are orders of magnitude better.

I try to avoid the Renatus. The very loud door release chime cuts through me. Also the loud hustle alarms go off at every door, even when they are closed. The 315s don't do this so clearly it's possible on older trains to have the hustle alarm sound only when the doors are open.

I've never understood the need for these alarms to be so loud. Presumably they are aimed mainly at blind or partially sighted people, whose hearing is likely to be better than average. Plenty of other trains have much more bearable tones for door release/closure.

 

[class321]

I try to avoid the Renatus. The very loud door release chime cuts through me. Also the loud hustle alarms go off at every door, even when they are closed. The 315s don't do this so clearly it's possible on older trains to have the hustle alarm sound only when the doors are open.

I've never understood the need for these alarms to be so loud. Presumably they are aimed mainly at blind or partially sighted people, whose hearing is likely to be better than average. Plenty of other trains have much more bearable tones for door release/closure.

I avoid the renatus ones too. The door alarms are irritating and unnecessarily loud. The non PRM 321s alarms are perfect, not too loud and unique and a couple of them are strange and funny not gonna lie