I would guess that the routes through Hoyle Court aren't considered a suitable and well-lit walking route, and the northbound stop isn’t brilliant for boarding/alighting. Kirklands Lane would seem a better bet (depending where in Baildon you are coming from, of course).
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Disruption is expected until 23:50 18/03.KLF stops have now made it to RTT but NRE still says it's not a permitted route
Our advice to our customers:
All train services between Bradford Forster Square and Ilkley are unable to run due to a landslip near Baildon station.
Network Rail are working to rectify this issue and the line will remain closed until further notice.
Effect on service:
Train services are unable to run between Ilkley and Bradford Forster Square (in both directions).
Services that run via Bradford Forster Square & Leeds and Leeds & Ilkley are NOT affected.
Alternative travel suggestions:
Passengers can use alternative services from Bradford Foster Square to Shipley and use the provided road transport for Baildon and beyond.
Passengers can use alternative services from Ilkley to Guiseley and use the provided road transport to Baildon and beyond.
Passengers from Leeds and Skipton should change at Shipley for the provided road transport to Baildon only.
Services operating between Leeds and Ilkley will also call additionally at Kirkstall Forge to assist passengers with their journeys
Any ticket restrictions have been lifted during this disruption.
Road transport:
Road transport is in operation between Shipley & Guiseley, calling at Baildon in both directions as follows-
Shipley - Guiseley - 06.15, 06.50 and then 10 minutes to each hour until 18.50, then 19.20, 20.20, 21.20 and 22.20
Guiseley - Shipley - 06.20, 07.30, 08.15, 09.10, 10.00 and then on the hour until 20.00, 20.30, 21.30 and 22.30
The following additional road replacement services will also operate-
23:20 Bradford Forster Square calling all stations to Ilkley
23:40 Guiseley calling all stations to Bradford Forster Square
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Bantamzen
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Possibly so though even coming via Kirklands Lane isn't ideal with the narrow bridge. Even so the current Guiseley bound stop is itself very badly lit, on a very narrow bit of pavement and I've seen people miss the A3 as it has sailed past, because you only see the bus at the last second as it rounds the bend.
YorkRanger
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And Roundwood Rd has another narrow bridge, so there's no ideal walking route
(The stop itself is better but it's probably further from where most people live.)
Mcr Warrior
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Oh dear! Looks like part of someone's back garden has started disappearing sideways into the railway cutting.
Yes, I heard that'd happened, which is probably why it's taking so long to rectify (previous incidents on the line have been fixed within a few days)
And their recently-built extension (check on Street View!) seems somewhat precarious too.
You can see from the photos (and the line below!!) that the foundations of the extension are exposed.
Mcr Warrior
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Couldn't provide a link, could you?
Presume you're referring to the one with the plain gable end. Certainly looks to have been built rather close to the edge of the top of the railway cutting slope, possibly even more so now! Can the likely date of construction be determined from planning permission applications?
Link to an end view of the un-extended property:
12 Roundwood Rd https://maps.app.goo.gl/xJfHcUzt3Nqi8efL9
Current aerial view also shows it as un-extended.
Of course we must not assume that the building caused the landslip.
12 Roundwood Rd https://maps.app.goo.gl/xJfHcUzt3Nqi8efL9
Current aerial view also shows it as un-extended.
Of course we must not assume that the building caused the landslip.
Bantamzen
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It could be a mistype, the 18th April is definitely not a Monday, the 18th March is.
Jamesrob637
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So are trains running just between Ilkley and Guiseley? Like, one train that was the Ilkley end when the landslip occurred?
jonesy3001
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The leeds to ilkley trains are temporarily stopping at kirkstall forge in both directions so folk can get to bradford until the baildon line is reopened.
No, the line is open between Guiseley and Leeds and trains are running through. Just the Ilkley to Bradford trains are cancelled.
No, the Ilkley – Leeds trains are running as timetabled, calling additionally at Kirkstall Forge. All Ilkley – Bradford trains are CANCELLED (see earlier post for alternative transport).
Initially there were some school trains turning at Apperley Junction but this has proved to be impractical.
Bantamzen
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Although the National Rail site has updated (albeit still showing as Monday 18th April), there's nothing on the Network Rail site and certainly no update to the local community that I know of (I live within earshot of the works, and have a an initial "Dear neighbour" letter about the works). If its really been put back another month, that's poor comms from Network Rail.
On national rail it says “Disruption is expected until Thursday 18th April”. Does means no services until 18th ?
ASharpe
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Latest from Network Rail is a few more weeks.
www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk
Complex environment at site of Baildon landslip forces railway to remain closed
Train services through Baildon will remain suspended for several weeks more after the complex nature of the site has caused work to progress more slowly than anticipated.
www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk
Media centre
Tuesday 12 Mar 2024
Complex environment at site of Baildon landslip forces railway to remain closed
Region & Route: Eastern
Train services through Baildon will remain suspended for several weeks more after the complex nature of the site has caused work to progress more slowly than anticipated.
Network Rail and contractor teams have been on site around-the-clock for close to a month after a landslip caused the railway line to close.
Specialist road rail vehicles and other equipment has been utilised to remove more than 1,800 tonnes of earth to stabilise the land.
Train services were initially estimated to return from mid-March however due to the complex environment at the site of the landslip, the line will remain closed for several weeks more.
A rail replacement service, implemented by train operator Northern, has transported passengers through the area during the closure and will continue.
Services that run via Bradford Forster Square & Leeds and Leeds & Ilkley are not affected.
Network Rail is encouraging passengers to continue to check their journey before travelling via National Rail Enquiries or Northern for the latest information.
Matt Rice, Route Director for Network Rail’s North & East route, said: “We know that the train service through the area is important to local residents are we are both sorry for this delay in reopening the line and grateful for the continued patience of passengers.
“The site is incredible complex which has meant work has not been able to be carried out as quickly as we were initially hoping.
“We are continuing to liaise with local residents impacted by this landslip and with various partner agencies to reinstate the train service as soon as we can while maintaining a safe working environment.”
Kerry Peters, regional director for Northern, added: “All services between Bradford Forster Square and Ilkley remain suspended following the landslip near Baildon station – however, services that run via Bradford Forster Square and Leeds and Leeds and Ilkley are not affected.
“A number of rail replacement services are in operation to ensure passengers can still get to where they want to be, and we would encourage customers to ‘check before they travel’ to see how their journey is affected.
“We will continue to support Network Rail in any way that we can as they continue efforts to re-open the line.”
I was thinking that, which is pretty evident from the photo at post#54.
I hope they have 'appropriate' insurance cover and have found suitable temporary accommodation while they contemplate a range of possible futures, which I imagine was not in their thinking before.
quantinghome
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That address is on the other side of the line to the slip:
Streetview doesn't show the houses affected as they're off a private road. It's not clear to me if there was an extension built after the original house.
The property largely affected by the landslip appears to be Spring Hill, Silsden Lane, off Roundwood Road, Baildon. History and ground investigation tells me there's a clue in the name - 'Spring'- often ignored in considering development. The Bradford MDC planning website gives no indication of a recent planning or building control application relating to that site: https://planning.bradford.gov.uk/on...play.do?action=display&searchType=Application. The building is constructed with its ground floor out of the ground on the 'railway' side- there are steps down to the garden. Hopefully, deep or piled foundations were provided.
I note also a Springfield Road which heads down directly from Baildon Moor into Baildon and beyond towartd the railway.
There's also a Spring Lane off the moor toward Bingley.
Of course there may be nothing in it, though there has been a lot of rain this year, and a number of landslips ...
I note also a Springfield Road which heads down directly from Baildon Moor into Baildon and beyond towartd the railway.
There's also a Spring Lane off the moor toward Bingley.
Of course there may be nothing in it, though there has been a lot of rain this year, and a number of landslips ...
Apologies to both of you - I spotted the mistake a few days ago when the NR photo appeared but forgot to correct my post. I now have.
Small point - it's Silson Lane (autocorrect at work, I suppose)
Thank you for putting this kinfdly- I had a minor stroke last yhear, so my reading off Streetview, transposition here and typing are all factorsApologies to both of you - I spotted the mistake a few days ago when the NR photo appeared but forgot to correct my post. I now have.
Small point - it's Silson Lane (autocorrect at work, I suppose)
