CAF Civity for TfW: News and updates on introduction.

[sd0733]

What is/are floorwalker?

Floorwalkers are an instructor who travel on board the service trains to help out with any issues with the units and a bit of a refresh for staff as its a long time since some people have been on one since their training.

 

[Jez]

So just to clarify there should be a total of 38 units (27 2 car and 11 3 car) in service very soon including the 15 we currently have?

That's huge. A massive step up and nearly half of the total order of 77 in total.

 

[SuperLuke2334]

So just to clarify there should be a total of 38 8nits (27 2 car and 11 3 car) in service very soon including the 15 we currently have?

That's huge. A massive step up and nearly half of the total order of 77 in total.

Yes that's right.

 

[sd0733]

So just to clarify there should be a total of 38 units (27 2 car and 11 3 car) in service very soon including the 15 we currently have?

That's huge. A massive step up and nearly half of the total order of 77 in total.

38 accepted units. They won't all be in service. Around 6 a day are required for driver training. Still should enable a big jump up from where its currently at.

It'll also help training as once units are accepted they can be used for training without a CAF technician which takes one layer of complication out!

 

[anthony263]

38 accepted units. They won't all be in service. Around 6 a day are required for driver training. Still should enable a big jump up from where its currently at.

It'll also help training as once units are accepted they can be used for training without a CAF technician which takes one layer of complication out!

Hopefully some three carriage units will help on north Wales to Manchester Airport services or Cardiff to Holyhead etc maybe allowing some services to be a pair of two carriage units

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

38 units is more than the entire class 175 fleet of 27 units (16x3, 11x2).
So you can see why the plan is to retire the 175s imminently.

 

[william.martin]

How many diagrams are there on North Wales and Manchester to South Wales (excluding ones booked MK4+ 67.)

 

[anthony263]

Let's hope they hurry up with these 197s

 

[Jez]

I don't think any 197s are visiting Cardiff today in Passenger service? I see the 0858 Bangor to Cardiff was 197007 to Chester than swapped for a 175. At least it was an upgrade from 2 to 3 carriages!

38 units is more than the entire class 175 fleet of 27 units (16x3, 11x2).
So you can see why the plan is to retire the 175s imminently.

Indeed. And the trouble they have been having with the 175s in recent months they wont want to keep them any longer than they need to. Lets hope by September there will be a lot more of 197s in service.

 

[Bigchris]

I saw a 3Q70 Crewe-Holyhead this morning that was 2x 2-car 197s (3Q71 return). Would anybody happen to know which units they were please?

 

[Steveswan10]

197111 on 5Q78 Crewe-Landore

 

[SuperLuke2334]

197111 on 5Q78 Crewe-Landore

Thanks for the info. Wonder what will come north on the later path.

 

[Bob Price]

Another unit being towed from Donnington to Crewe today, just passed Shrewsbury. More signs of units being moved, tested, ready for hand over

 

[SeaKing]

197031 currently in Shrewsbury behind 66420

 

[Bob Price]

And 020 left Crewe headed for Chester probably making room for it at Crewe.

 

[Steveswan10]

I fact 2 197s out on the Holyhead-Cardiff's today,
197015 on 1V92
197004 on 1V94

 

[SuperLuke2334]

I fact 2 197s out on the Holyhead-Cardiff's today,
197015 on 1V92
197004 on 1V94

It's been like that since beginning of last week bar the occasional set swap.

 

[Steveswan10]

And 179014 on 5Q79 Landore-Crewe

 

[Bigchris]

I also saw that 3Q70 Crewe-Holyhead & 3Q71 return ran again today. Any ideas on which units this was, 2x 197/0s yesterday?

 

[SeaKing]

I also saw that 3Q70 Crewe-Holyhead & 3Q71 return ran again today. Any ideas on which units this was, 2x 197/0s yesterday?

197048

 

[Bigchris]

197048

Ah thank you, just the single unit today then. Still haven't found out which 2 it was yesterday

 

[childwallblues]

197031 currently in Shrewsbury behind 66420

Thank you for that. I was at Shrewsbury when it arrived. The unit was unnumbered.

 

[St. Paddy]

197031 currently in Shrewsbury behind 66420

Isn’t that one of the ETCS fitted units?

 

[SeaKing]

Isn’t that one of the ETCS fitted units?

Sorry not sure

 

[Jacob Porrett]

Isn’t that one of the ETCS fitted units?

Yes it is.

 

[SuperLuke2334]

Isn’t that one of the ETCS fitted units?

Indeed, good to be starting to get those units out testing and hopefully have them in service before they head for the coast.

 

[SeaKing]

Indeed, good to be starting to get those units out testing and hopefully have them in service before they head for the coast.

Ah thank you, just the single unit today then. Still haven't found out which 2 it was yesterday

3Q71 197049 today

 

[Bob Price]

To add to the list 197105 was towed from Wolverton to Crewe today. Guessing another in for testing

 

[Jacob Porrett]

66515 worked 6Q98 from Donnington FRT to Crewe today with 197030. Another ETCS fitted 197.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

38 accepted units. They won't all be in service. Around 6 a day are required for driver training. Still should enable a big jump up from where its currently at.

It'll also help training as once units are accepted they can be used for training without a CAF technician which takes one layer of complication out!

Do we have a date for this yet?