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In no sane world can that be seen as the wrong order of priorities though.In actual fact the 1542 service to Liverpool was cancelled due to the unit being taken off to work a service to Cardiff.
In no sane world can that be seen as the wrong order of priorities though.In actual fact the 1542 service to Liverpool was cancelled due to the unit being taken off to work a service to Cardiff.
The rest of the diagram has been taken over by 158823.In no sane world can that be seen as the wrong order of priorities though.
It actually ends up back at Chester197120 has had its diagram changed, and will now end at Shrewsbury. Does this mean we have a decent chance of it running to Cardiff tomorrow?
Oh for goodness sake.It actually ends up back at Chester
Realtime Trains | 1D35 2340 Shrewsbury to Chester | 12/02/2024
Real-time train running information for 1D35 2340 departure from Shrewsbury to Chester on 12/02/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.www.realtimetrains.co.uk
I notice they already closed Cardiff to Bridgend and trains are going round the VoG. Hopefully it will be handed back before the 0525 from Swansea runs over it in the morning.I agree. Lets hope there is no major engineering works planned until its cleared! Also probably less important but they need to clear the Swansea district line too. A usefui diversion for the Cardiff-Carmarthen/Milford's if they do engineering work immediately West of Swansea.
Have Maesteg-Cheltenham officially been cleared for passenger service and its just a case of waiting for more 197s to come into service before they get allocated to this route?
Gone back in for maintenance again, probably why it was swapped to get it to Chester.Oh for goodness sake.
It's down as a 2 car + 3 car on the internal systems now, but that'll change. It's booked for 2 units as it splits at Piccadilly, but they'll need to both be 2 car units.RTT is showing a pair of 3 car 197s doing the 1749 Cardiff to Manchester. I assume this will change as 5 or 6 cars not cleared on this route?
RTT is showing a pair of 3 car 197s doing the 1749 Cardiff to Manchester. I assume this will change as 5 or 6 cars not cleared on this route?
Yes it will change as still no clearance for 5 or 6 cars unfortunately though it can’t be far off.
Nobody can say at this point. There's seemingly another proving run, this Time with a 5 car instead of 6 car happening to iron out whatever the issues were and then its down to the relevant safety sides to sign it offNot far off being before the June TT change?
Seen it on Chester Depot today.Oh for goodness sake.
Nobody can say at this point. There's seemingly another proving run, this Time with a 5 car instead of 6 car happening to iron out whatever the issues were and then its down to the relevant safety sides to sign it off
I see 197111 is allocated to a Carmarthen to Tenby service at 1909. I assume this is an error?
Chester crews are getting 150 refreshers today with 150231 operating on the Liverpool service vice a 197.
I hope soo too! Great to see the extra capacity, so let’s get people using it! I know TFW are looking for ways to generate more income at the moment!Fares are so extortionate on the Manchester to Cardiff route. Were it not for the fact that XC isn't all that cheap to Bristol either, I think many would ride XC to Parkway and GWR from there into Wales. I hope that regular 5-6 car running will see the return of cheap Advances on the route.
They could start by having a day rover for the Cardiff to Chester route with people able to hop on/off at will. Being as they have lost a lot of commuters, they should also scrap the 9.30 weekday rule where to travel earlier means higher prices. (A train leaves Cardiff around 9.20am for north Wales and so attracts the higher fare - unless you split at Newport which it reaches after 9.30 - but a lot of potential customers don’t know that).I hope soo too! Great to see the extra capacity, so let’s get people using it! I know TFW are looking for ways to generate more income at the moment!
Your comments are very interesting.They could start by having a day rover for the Cardiff to Chester route with people able to hop on/off at will. Being as they have lost a lot of commuters, they should also scrap the 9.30 weekday rule where to travel earlier means higher prices. (A train leaves Cardiff around 9.20am for north Wales and so attracts the higher fare - unless you split at Newport which it reaches after 9.30 - but a lot of potential customers don’t know that).
The West Midlands Day Rover should include the section between Hereford & Shrewsbury with TfW getting a cut.
Anyway, I digress from topic of 197’s so I guess any other comments about boosting business should have a separate thread.
158818 vice 197 on the Chester-Liverpool services today
They could start by having a day rover for the Cardiff to Chester route with people able to hop on/off at will. Being as they have lost a lot of commuters, they should also scrap the 9.30 weekday rule where to travel earlier means higher prices. (A train leaves Cardiff around 9.20am for north Wales and so attracts the higher fare - unless you split at Newport which it reaches after 9.30 - but a lot of potential customers don’t know that).
The West Midlands Day Rover should include the section between Hereford & Shrewsbury with TfW getting a cut.
Anyway, I digress from topic of 197’s so I guess any other comments about boosting business should have a separate thread.
But it is booked to be a 197 - indeed the diagram started out with a 197 before a set swap at Chester. The hourly service is booked for 2 x 197.That isn’t correct, it isn’t vice a 197, it’s covering one of the diagrams now that the service is hourly. 197008 is on the other diagram (10:47, 12:47, 14:47 etc departures from Lime St).
It might be... I am fairly sure that they have been cleared now... although not yet booked.
It was a double 153 about 20 minutes ago then switched to 197050, probably because the service to Manchester is already 4 coaches. We must wait to see if anything changesIt might be... I am fairly sure that they have been cleared now... although not yet booked.