Class 43 disposals

[fgwrich]

Two more disposals are about to begin, as 43305 and 43367 Have moved up to Loughborough to provide spares for ScotRail's 43128 and 43169 - both of which are currently heading down by road to Loughborough. On a more positive note, this will finally see 128 enter traffic with ScotRail.

 

[43096]

Two more disposals are about to begin, as 43305 and 43367 Have moved up to Loughborough to provide spares for ScotRail's 43128 and 43169 - both of which are currently heading down by road to Loughborough. On a more positive note, this will finally see 128 enter traffic with ScotRail.

That's a bizarre choice of vehicles as spares donors given the significant differences between the GWR/ScotRail and East Coast/XC/GC/NR fleets.

 

[Devon Sunset]

43128/169 both still at Haymarket although Alleys are outside the main gate so something is definitely going.

 

[D365]

That's a bizarre choice of vehicles as spares donors given the significant differences between the GWR/ScotRail and East Coast/XC/GC/NR fleets.

It depends what spares are required. I’d imagine that UKRL has a reasonable cache of Brush control gear for the GWR and ex-GWR vehicles.

 

[50002Superb]

43128/169 both still at Haymarket although Alleys are outside the main gate so something is definitely going.

Does anyone know when these are on the move please? I live close to Junction 25 of the M1 so will nip out for a photo if the timings work

 

[Devon Sunset]

169 and 128 are in position to be removed with Alleys waiting for access. Looks like 169 will be going first as it's at the front.

 

[trainswitheddy]

Anyone know how many powercars are left in Ely?

 

[adc82140]

I have the following at Ely: 017, 020, 024, 174, 190,191, 309, 310, 311, 314, 315, 317, 318.

Happy to be corrected.

 

[Nym]

It depends what spares are required. I’d imagine that UKRL has a reasonable cache of Brush control gear for the GWR and ex-GWR vehicles.

Only if they were pulled out of the skips or hidden when the previous inhabitants pulled out of the site.

 

[D365]

Only if they were pulled out of the skips or hidden when the previous inhabitants pulled out of the site.

Was Wabtec savvy enough to move their Brush spares up to Doncaster?

 

[fgwrich]

Only if they were pulled out of the skips or hidden when the previous inhabitants pulled out of the site.

Indeed. Don’t forget that Wabtec did a rather large auction of items left on site just after the closed down. It’s one reason why the Fuel Tank under the Baby Deltic is actually a spare tank for a class 158.

 

[Wyrleybart]

Indeed. Don’t forget that Wabtec did a rather large auction of items left on site just after the closed down. It’s one reason why the Fuel Tank under the Baby Deltic is actually a spare tank for a class 158.

Fascinating nugget
Thanks for that. I always thought the Baby Deltic guys were resourceful !!

 

[fgwrich]

Fascinating nugget
Thanks for that. I always thought the Baby Deltic guys were resourceful !!

Indeed, it was mentioned in one of their blogs a while ago. It’s very cleverly been given housing to resemble an original Baby Deltic tank, but behind the metal work is a standard 158 tank.

 

[oversteer]

Spotted a EMR branded 43 being road hauled northbound on the M1 near Watford Gap today .. approx 6pm. Didn’t catch the number.

 

[matt]

Spotted a EMR branded 43 being road hauled northbound on the M1 near Watford Gap today .. approx 6pm. Didn’t catch the number.

That was probably 43054 heading to Crewe presumably spares for Locomotive Services Limited

 

[fgwrich]

That was probably 43054 heading to Crewe presumably spares for Locomotive Services Limited

FYI 054 does retain DATS branding for now but it has been pictured at Watford Gap services today.

 

[trainswitheddy]

Is 43300 still sat at Reids? What was the plan for it as clearly not being scrapped.

 

[uvarvu]

Someone has gone for a cruise in the guards compartment on 007 over in Mexico. I like the retained livery

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7376971049079934241

 

[Sun Chariot]

Someone has gone for a cruise in the guards compartment on 007 over in Mexico. I like the retained livery

Thank goodness they did that before 43007's tangle with an SUV - shown on posts #110 and #116 in this linked thread:

HSTs in Mexico - news and progress updates

Saw this on Facebook of the second bath of Mexican HST stock arriving late last month. Unloading was at least partly at night and they have been sent off for repair and repaint so seem to have slipped away from most cameras so far. https://www.facebook.com/share/p/oSLGffSDTYwRw2zq/ So that's...

www.railforums.co.uk

 

[fgwrich]

Someone has gone for a cruise in the guards compartment on 007 over in Mexico. I like the retained livery

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7376971049079934241

That'll be one of the ROMIC staff who are responsible for the export and return to service of these Power Cars and Mk3s.

 

[Prime586]

Edit: NVM, just noticed it had been previously posted.

 

[brad465]

Once GWR have finished with their remaining Castle Class sets, will any spare power cars still at Laira head for scrap along with the aforementioned locos?

 

[Wyrleybart]

Once GWR have finished with their remaining Castle Class sets, will any spare power cars still at Laira head for scrap along with the aforementioned locos?

I don't have much knowledge of the GWR HST fleet but I believe a number of powercars and trailers are / were First Group assets rather than owned by a Rosco. Whether FG have sold / disposed of these, or whether they are still in traffic, perhaps someone can maybe comment

 

[43096]

I don't have much knowledge of the GWR HST fleet but I believe a number of powercars and trailers are / were First Group assets rather than owned by a Rosco. Whether FG have sold / disposed of these, or whether they are still in traffic, perhaps someone can maybe comment

43158, which has already gone to Mexico, was also a FirstGroup owned power car, so clearly Romic are also buying from that source.

 

[adc82140]

I think it's even more complicated than that. IIRC some are First Group owned, and some are franchise assets.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Didn't Romic recently state that they had an option on every remaining active HST vehicle that is in use?

 

[43096]

I think it's even more complicated than that. IIRC some are First Group owned, and some are franchise assets.

Ownership details can be found in the fleetlist on the 125 Group website: https://www.125group.org.uk/hst-services-fleet-lists/

 

[D7672]

Tuesday 20th August and Wednesday 21st the scrap merchant started and finished scrapping 43185

 

[trainswitheddy]

Tuesday 20th August and Wednesday 21st the scrap merchant started and finished scrapping 43185

That's sad, wonder what made it appear in the list of preserved powercars?

 

[fgwrich]

Tuesday 20th August and Wednesday 21st the scrap merchant started and finished scrapping 43185

The remains of 030 have also been disposed of at the same scrapyard in Irvine too.