It would for me, by way of association at least: many a horrible journey up to Crewe on a 350/2. If they have pull down tables, which I think they did from the picture, then I'm 110% sold on them over a 350/2.
I believe the LNR units have the interiors from the original 730/2 spec, just without first class, so will have armrests - at least, that was what I was last told by a manager back in October, “2+2 Intercity Layout.”
Pains me a little to say this, but that's going to be a such improvement over a 323.
I really like the look of them, tables will be welcome, and the standing space. One thing I find odd is the different carpet, I wonder if it's a harder-wearing carpet for the higher passenger loads, or if it's something to do with underfloor heating (I don't know if the 730s have them, but the 720s do so I'm basing this off of that).Pains me a little to say this, but that's going to be a such improvement over a 323.
The amount of more space for standing is incredible
Yeah the carpet may not last long, Never actually never bothered to look at how the 172 carpet is doing since we now 2-3 years in since they started to get refurbished.
From what I've seen, the carpet in the 172s is still doing fine, I meant to be a bit more specific, it looks like a different type of carpet to the stuff used in the 172s and 196s.
Pains me a little to say this, but that's going to be a such improvement over a 323.
The amount of more space for standing is incredible
Agreed. I think all Aventras look more welcoming than 700s and 717s, primarily due to using silver panelling in place of white (the 720 less than the others). Hospital blue really doesn't look nice either.
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There probably is no need for standing anyway, as there should be enough seats for everyone. Unless some services are short formed.Pains me a little to say this, but that's going to be a such improvement over a 323.
The amount of more space for standing is incredible
Is it too late now to revert back to 3+2?
Dont' want it to revert back to 3+2, but concerned it could happen.
That's why in all my messages about the LNR interior beings 2+2, I say something along the lines of "supposedly," I also do this with the services they'll be running. I think we'll have to wait until the next LNR unit comes out of Derby, which, looking at the pace they're getting through the units currently, could be within the next 10 weeks, we have 9 more WMR units to go.
One thing that I find peculiar is that the 450s and 444s seem to be the same width, despite the different carriage lengths. I wonder if this is either inaccurate data or if the reason why a 3+2 desiro is nearly bearable is because the walls aren't as thick.
Would you expect the first LNR units to be in service (as opposed to testing and driver training) by this time next year?
It has, and the 2nd LNR depot to get 730s DI refresh course is booked to start from the 25th with a monthly day release to drive them until the /2 launch. So there are clearly enhanced plans in the works
Sorry to sound like a broken record, but is it still the plan for the LNR 730s to have 2+2 seating, as far as you know?
All the 730s will have 2+2 seating, no first class.
The 730s have underfloor heating
Ooh, I like the fact sheet, does this confirm that the 730/2s will just run wherever then, and not on specific diagrams as (I believe) was planned a few months ago, or is it a case of they’ll appear more on some services, occasionally covering others? There’s no way they’d be able to do all of the outlined services!
There's one or two 1+1 sections in the /0s, and then also the larger standoffs. From what I can recall, the /2s are more like 720s than 701s, with vestibules more like those on the 720s, with smaller standoffs, presumably that'll add around 16 more seats per carriage alone, then with the lack of 1+1 in the end carriages, there's likely more seats as a result of that too.
Even with all this taken into consideration, 463 does seem to be high for 2+2 seating. The 720s have only 27 more seats and they have 3+2 seating. I would have expected around 350 seats. I think probably what has happened is that 463 seats was for the old specification before it got changed, and whoever made the fact sheet does not realise it. Easy mistake to make.
