Class 810 for East Midlands Railway Construction/Introduction Updates

[43096]

I like the look of that, it looks more modern and "meaning business" than the original, including windows flush with the bodyside, presumably to avoid the cleaning issue of the existing 80x.

Interesting that the end vehicle has the end door inset a window width from the end.

It’s got some bits that look like they’re borrowed from the U.K. FLIRTs e.g. around the top of the cab. More importantly, it would be nice if the interior of the FLIRTs was used, as these are way better than the 80x offerings so far.

 

[Domh245]

The frontal destination display is a (pleasant) surprise if it makes it to the final train

 

[Killingworth]

News from EMR - Aurora is due to start testing in mid-2022 and enter service in early 2023.

"Aurora is the name of the Roman goddess of the dawn, representing a new start by our bi-mode fleet for the East Midlands and South Yorkshire.

It is also inspired by the Northern Lights, created by the transfer of the sun's solar energy. Our new Aurora fleet will operate under electric power where possible, replacing our existing diesel trains on the Midland Main Line."

Thank you to everyone who submitted their name suggestions - the name Aurora was an entry by Trevor Parkin, Head of Operations at EMR, and one of our customers"

 

[WesternLancer]

News from EMR - Aurora is due to start testing in mid-2022 and enter service in early 2023.

"Aurora is the name of the Roman goddess of the dawn, representing a new start by our bi-mode fleet for the East Midlands and South Yorkshire.

It is also inspired by the Northern Lights, created by the transfer of the sun's solar energy. Our new Aurora fleet will operate under electric power where possible, replacing our existing diesel trains on the Midland Main Line."

Thank you to everyone who submitted their name suggestions - the name Aurora was an entry by Trevor Parkin, Head of Operations at EMR, and one of our customers"

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so, lucky that a senior chap happened to pick the winning name then....

 

[Gaz55]

Is there any word on the capacity of these units yet?

 

[WesternLancer]

Is there any word on the capacity of these units yet?

well, if there was anything that could come out of covid maybe it would be lower capacity per carriage, more leg room and decent space between seats with comfy seats to sit on, you know, so you might actually want to buy a ticket to travel on one instead of in your far more comfortable car...

 

[Killingworth]

Now it looks daft.
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News from EMR - Aurora is due to start testing in mid-2022 and enter service in early 2023.

"Aurora is the name of the Roman goddess of the dawn, representing a new start by our bi-mode fleet for the East Midlands and South Yorkshire.

It is also inspired by the Northern Lights, created by the transfer of the sun's solar energy. Our new Aurora fleet will operate under electric power where possible, replacing our existing diesel trains on the Midland Main Line."

Thank you to everyone who submitted their name suggestions - the name Aurora was an entry by Trevor Parkin, Head of Operations at EMR, and one of our customers"

 

[DB]

News from EMR - Aurora is due to start testing in mid-2022 and enter service in early 2023.

"Aurora is the name of the Roman goddess of the dawn, representing a new start by our bi-mode fleet for the East Midlands and South Yorkshire.

It is also inspired by the Northern Lights, created by the transfer of the sun's solar energy. Our new Aurora fleet will operate under electric power where possible, replacing our existing diesel trains on the Midland Main Line."

Thank you to everyone who submitted their name suggestions - the name Aurora was an entry by Trevor Parkin, Head of Operations at EMR, and one of our customers"

What a load of nonsense!

 

[RealTrains07]

They wanted the 810 fleet to have a name that represents the East Midlands. How does Aurora represent or even relate to the East Midlands?

The trains look good but the name choice doesn't seem very "East Midland" to me?

 

[irish_rail]

News from EMR - Aurora is due to start testing in mid-2022 and enter service in early 2023.

"Aurora is the name of the Roman goddess of the dawn, representing a new start by our bi-mode fleet for the East Midlands and South Yorkshire.

It is also inspired by the Northern Lights, created by the transfer of the sun's solar energy. Our new Aurora fleet will operate under electric power where possible, replacing our existing diesel trains on the Midland Main Line."

Thank you to everyone who submitted their name suggestions - the name Aurora was an entry by Trevor Parkin, Head of Operations at EMR, and one of our customers"

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Cringe. So glad GWR went with a decent name for these.

 

[Bletchleyite]

I dunno, I quite like it. "Intercity Express Train" is a bit boring.

 

[XCTurbostar]

An Aurora has colour.. *Cough* Yellow front. *Cough* Just saying.

 

[Domh245]

IET is rather boring yet functional, I can see why it appeals to some though!

I wonder if back in 2003, people were similarly outraged by the choice of "Meridian" as the brand name for their bunch of new trains. In some ways it'd be best if they hadn't backsolved the name though and just declared that they were called Auroras though

 

[Western Sunset]

I always called HSTs, er, HSTs rather than IC 125s. Likewise, I call any IET derivative an, er, IET. Simples...

 

[tbtc]

I wonder if back in 2003, people were similarly outraged by the choice of "Meridian" as the brand name for their bunch of new trains

I think that all names sound a bit daft when first announced, but then we get so used to using them that they become second nature on a lot of stock - some better than others (when did you last hear someone referring to 185s as "Pennines"?) - but Mallard/ Swallow/ Deltic/ King/ Streak/ Voyager/ Adelante etc would have all sounded silly once upon a time.

In a way, it's nice that they are giving them a proper name since it differentiates them from all of the other "similar but not quite the same" 80x stock. It's not the name I'd have chosen (I liked the suggestion on here of "Soar", given the Leicestershire connection) but it's fine - anything they come up with is going to face criticism from some enthusiasts though!

 

[swt_passenger]

I always called HSTs, er, HSTs rather than IC 125s. Likewise, I call any IET derivative an, er, IET. Simples...

But even then IC125 is more of a functional description (abbreviated) rather than a totally unnecessary name, like all these latest attempts...

 

[Ethan1852]

Where are you getting the information from about the name for the new trains?

 

[greatvoyager]

Cringe. So glad GWR went with a decent name for these.

I wonder what the other options were.

 

[irish_rail]

I wonder what the other options were.

Super express train was the original name for them. Sounds like a 6 Yr old dreamt that one up!

 

[Killingworth]

Where are you getting the information from about the name for the new trains?

Email to EMR stakeholders prior to press release

 

[Mikey C]

I always called HSTs, er, HSTs rather than IC 125s. Likewise, I call any IET derivative an, er, IET. Simples...

The Inter City 125 name is very well known amongst the general public though, as it was heavily marketed and the Inter City brand was really strong too, e.g. in this classic advert

 

[43096]

I always called HSTs, er, HSTs rather than IC 125s. Likewise, I call any IET derivative an, er, IET. Simples...

I call them Super Hitachi Intercity Trains....

 

[3141]

But even then IC125 is more of a functional description (abbreviated) rather than a totally unnecessary name, like all these latest attempts...

Absolutely. But it is a slightly pleasanter-sounding name than Arterio, which sounds to me as if someone's developing a rather nasty medical condition.

Interesting that we have Arterio, Aurora, Aventra, Azuma....there must be something about words beginning with "a" which appeals to the PR people who presumably advise a company which name to adopt. Time will show whether any of them will get used by the general public.

 

[221101 Voyager]

Absolutely. But it is a slightly pleasanter-sounding name than Arterio, which sounds to me as if someone's developing a rather nasty medical condition.

Interesting that we have Arterio, Aurora, Aventra, Azuma....there must be something about words beginning with "a" which appeals to the PR people who presumably advise a company which name to adopt. Time will show whether any of them will get used by the general public.

I think the only train name that was used by the general public was InterCity 125 and Possibly InterCity 225. Everything ever since is pretty much nonsense. Cough* Arterio, Aurora.

I know where EMR got the Aurora name from, it's this Norwegian singer!

Aurora (singer) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Western Sunset]

Aardvark would trump all the other "A's"...

 

[Domh245]

Everything ever since is pretty much nonsense. Cough* Arterio, Aurora.

Seeing as neither of those fleets had entered service, it'd be impressive if they were being used!

Pendolino, azuma, voyager (and pacer!) have all been well used by the public ime

 

[221101 Voyager]

Seeing as neither of those fleets had entered service, it'd be impressive if they were being used!

Pendolino, azuma, voyager (and pacer!) have all been well used by the public ime

Fair enough. Although, pacer is used for a bad reason as opposed to the other names that have a more positive view.

 

[Bald Rick]

Super express train was the original name for them. Sounds like a 6 Yr old dreamt that one up!

Actually the original name was “HST2”.

 

[swt_passenger]

Absolutely. But it is a slightly pleasanter-sounding name than Arterio, which sounds to me as if someone's developing a rather nasty medical condition.

Interesting that we have Arterio, Aurora, Aventra, Azuma....there must be something about words beginning with "a" which appeals to the PR people who presumably advise a company which name to adopt. Time will show whether any of them will get used by the general public.

Aventra was Bombardier‘s name for their “post Electrostar” EMU range though. So if all the Aventra operators simply used that name, what would be the problem? If there’s a need to diffentiate Aventra models, use the class number, eg 345 Aventra or 701 Aventra; like we use 375, 376, 377, 387 all Electrostars...

 

[Bald Rick]

Aventra was Bombardier‘s name for their “post Electrostar” EMU range though. So if all the Aventra operators simply used that name, what would be the problem?

That’s what is going to happen, I imagine.