Nym
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Oh lord. How soon can we drop the stupid name?
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Class 810 for East Midlands Railway Construction/Introduction Updates
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Well you see, it was dreamt up by some head office person, who probably visited the East Midlands once.
norbitonflyer
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Aurora was Greek for "dawn", which appears in the east, so that may be a connection. (cf "Azuma", a Japanese word with a similar meaning). Aurora has come to mean any glow in the sky, and in particular the Aurora Borealis - "boreal" means northern or arctic.
bussikuski179
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It’s too late now of course, but HST2 would’ve been a great name for these trains, since they basically are the new HSTs, what with running on most mainlines and all that. I do believe that in 40 years when these go they will be missed like the HSTs, mostly since the next ones will surely be worse.
They *were* called HST2
bussikuski179
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Yes but aren’t called that now.
Speedbird96
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EMR have released a video detailing the design process of the Class 810.
Those seats do look a lot like those mentioned in the New Avanti seat thread, so that probably confirms that rumour
Looking at some of the pictures on the screens in the background though, the interior does look a little bit like an explosion at the Ribena factory
Looking at some of the pictures on the screens in the background though, the interior does look a little bit like an explosion at the Ribena factory
Bletchleyite
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Though one of the slides in the background shows a Class 170 with FISA LEANs, you can tell by the window shape.
True. That just means that it'll be a overwhelmingly purple across all the fleets
Nope they are really beefy FISA LEANs, quite odd, shown here from the video:
Doesn't really seem suitable for First Class on a long-distance train, but will be interested to try out this variant anyway. Just wondering where the recline is...
Oh well, anything beats a Fainsa slab!
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Bletchleyite
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They're just the First Class variant as used by Abellio, but with an inset on the headrest.
FISA LEAN first class variant - photo by FISA themselves
FISA LEAN first class variant - photo by FISA themselves
221101 Voyager
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Oh well, like @superalbs says Leans are considerably better than fainsas saying that, sitting on the floor is better than a fainsa!They're just the First Class variant as used by Abellio, but with an inset on the headrest.
FISA LEAN first class variant - photo by FISA themselves
The photo above shows 1st, will the standard class seats be the same or will they differ in some way?
Bletchleyite
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The Standard LEAN looks like this, very close to a Grammer E3000 in look and comfort:
FISA LEAN Standard seat - by FISA
FISA LEAN Standard seat - by FISA
221101 Voyager
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Do we know if the 810s will have these in standard yet?The Standard LEAN looks like this, very close to a Grammer E3000 in look and comfort:
FISA LEAN Standard seat - by FISA
Bletchleyite
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I don't think there's been an announcement of what the seating will be.
Ethan1852
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EMR say they are developing new seats for the 810s in this tweet. https://twitter.com/EastMidRailway/status/1326113944071761920
Bletchleyite
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This certainly puts paid to the excuse that the Fainsa Sophia is definitely the only seat you can possibly put in an 80x, honest!
Touche, FirstGroup!
irish_rail
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Can't help but feel jealous knowing people travelling an hour or two from london to Nottingham will get a half decent seat, whilst in GWR land we are doing 3 4 5 hour journeys on fainsas
TT-ONR-NRN
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FirstGroup, who are putting original seats in their 805s, 807s (and I believe 803s)This certainly puts paid to the excuse that the Fainsa Sophia is definitely the only seat you can possibly put in an 80x, honest!
Touche, FirstGroup!
YorksLad12
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They're just the First Class variant as used by Abellio, but with an inset on the headrest.
FISA LEAN first class variant - photo by FISA themselves
There appears to be a single seat on the other side of the luggage rack which is... bizarre. Unless it's some sort of crew seat, and there's a coffee station across the aisle.
It's a pair of seats at a table...
Kneedown
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It was dreamed up by the Head of Operational Standards who, although a Yorkshireman, has resided in the East Mids for many years, and worked his way up through the footplate grades. Respect to him.Well you see, it was dreamt up by some head office person, who probably visited the East Midlands once.
Aurora wasn't my suggestion, but I quite like it personally. It sounds like a mythical hypersonic aircraft from Lockheeds "Skunk works". Certainly a better name than some I could mention IMHO.
Mordac
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It's definitely better than Arterio!
YorksLad12
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Still bizarre then. A pair of seats, then the luggage racks, then the rest of the seating. Never seen that before (although I have seen the luggage racks half-way down the carriage in first on an HST, which were helpful).
Because the seats can go over the wheel well, but the luggage racks would be awkward like that.
Another angle here:
Clansman
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For what it's worth to mention, ScotRail have floor stickers between bays of four on all 156s, 158s, and the HSTs, to advertise the space for luggage.
WesternLancer
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You have to wonder if people could have worked that out without the need for signage....
Bletchleyite
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With modern, more upright seating it usually isn't a particularly useful space anyway.