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Having watched a couple of interviews with Pat Cummins, he seems quite a likeable person (for an Australian Captain), very different from any other captain in my lifetime.
Does anyone else agree? How does he go down in Australia @Pakenhamtrain? (The answer is probably very well as long as he keeps winning!)

We don't mind him. I think some were a little apprehensive of having a bowler as captain but he's doing a good job of it.




Meanwhile on Australian Radio. Triple M's Billy Brownless has a few words about Ollie Robinson delivering one of his trademark "Billy's Bakes"
 
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Cummins is an excellent bowler and can hold a bat. He's tall and good looking, and seems a decent bloke.

Makes you sick really :E
 

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I wouldn't have declared on the first day, but ultimately that's not what cost England the Test. Neither really did the missed chances, although had they been taken the result may well have been different. But ultimately it was letting the ninth wicket partnership put on 55 in 12 overs in the last session of the fifth day that cost them. Despite what went before England were still in a position to win.
 

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I wouldn't have declared on the first day, but ultimately that's not what cost England the Test. Neither really did the missed chances, although had they been taken the result may well have been different. But ultimately it was letting the ninth wicket partnership put on 55 in 12 overs in the last session of the fifth day that cost them. Despite what went before England were still in a position to win.
Don't know if it's generally realised that until Monday there had been 10 occasions in Ashes history since 1926 when a team had won by either fewer than 25 runs or by three or fewer wickets and on each occasion the winner had been England! On that basis alone, Australia deserved to win. Khawaja v Robinson merely reinforces that feeling.
 

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England showing no urgency to call up a replacement spinner. Looks like Moeen Ali is expected to be fit for Lords!
 

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From an Australian point of view that's great news.
I don't understand:

Bairstow has scored boatloads of runs. He had a poor game with the gloves last time out but has enough in the bank to keep his place ahead of Foakes. He is the kind of aggressive player "Bazball" is built on

Ali is a fine spinner if a bit rusty. While he isn't going to blow through a card he can hold and end and will take wickets as long as his hand is fine! Also, I don't think we have much choice in the spinner department frankly.

For me the question is Wood for Robinson?
 

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I don't understand:

Bairstow has scored boatloads of runs. He had a poor game with the gloves last time out but has enough in the bank to keep his place ahead of Foakes. He is the kind of aggressive player "Bazball" is built on

Ali is a fine spinner if a bit rusty. While he isn't going to blow through a card he can hold and end and will take wickets as long as his hand is fine! Also, I don't think we have much choice in the spinner department frankly.

For me the question is Wood for Robinson?
Completely agree with your post and assessment...certainly this current team, and style of play is a classic case of "it it ain't broke, don't fix it " .

As for Robinson, no loss and certainly replaceable...the sooner the better. May give him "some (considerable !) time to reflect " as they say.
 

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Rehan Ahmed, the leggie who made his test debut in Pakistan, has been added to the side for Lords. Wood must certainly come in, Foakes certainly won't and I'd be amazed if Ali is risked even if pronounced fit. In the end, Lords not being a spinner's paradise, Root may do the honours. I'd like to see Woakes come in with his wonderful record at the ground because Stokes is obviously not fit enough for a fourth seamer, regardless of what he says.
 

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Had a trip over to Canterbury for a T20 smash up. Daniel Bell-Drummond anchored a Kent victory with 111.

Grant Stewart's figures of 3 overs 3 for 39 included a hat-trick. His 1st over ended 6-6 then his 2nd over was 4-1-4-wide-wide-wide-6-wide-dot-wicket, then somehow he got to bowl a 3rd over starting with 2 further wickets to complete his hat-trick.
 

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Had a trip over to Canterbury for a T20 smash up. Daniel Bell-Drummond anchored a Kent victory with 111.

Grant Stewart's figures of 3 overs 3 for 39 included a hat-trick. His 1st over ended 6-6 then his 2nd over was 4-1-4-wide-wide-wide-6-wide-dot-wicket, then somehow he got to bowl a 3rd over starting with 2 further wickets to complete his hat-trick.
Quite possibly the worst hattrick ever, considering all 3 were from Middlesex batsmen desperately trying to clear the ropes and holing out!
 

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Deja vu all over again. England Women end 10 behind Australia Women after the first innings, then Australia score 257 in their second innings. England are thus left to score 268 to win - what chances a 2 wicket victory? :smile:

I wondered why Sam Curran opened the bowling for Surrey in their current championship match against Lancashire. having inserted them. Turns out Ed Smith, ex head selector, proposes in today's 'Sunday Times' that the left armer Curran be brought into the test team for Lords. As it happened, he took an early wicket, but the Australian Sean Abbott has four wickets currently. Mitchell Starc, the Aussie leftie, may well be picked for the test. of course.
 

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Deja vu all over again. England Women end 10 behind Australia Women after the first innings, then Australia score 257 in their second innings. England are thus left to score 268 to win - what chances a 2 wicket victory? :smile:

I wondered why Sam Curran opened the bowling for Surrey in their current championship match against Lancashire. having inserted them. Turns out Ed Smith, ex head selector, proposes in today's 'Sunday Times' that the left armer Curran be brought into the test team for Lords. As it happened, he took an early wicket, but the Australian Sean Abbott has four wickets currently. Mitchell Starc, the Aussie leftie, may well be picked for the test. of course.
In reply to the first part above, Australia reduced England to 116-5 at the close of the fourth day.

In reply to the second part above, fourteen wickets fell on the first day with Lancashire recovering to reach an all out total of 274 and Surrey being 70-4 at close of play.
 

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Deja vu all over again. England Women end 10 behind Australia Women after the first innings, then Australia score 257 in their second innings. England are thus left to score 268 to win - what chances a 2 wicket victory? :smile:

In reply to the first part above, Australia reduced England to 116-5 at the close of the fourth day.
268 would be the highest fourth innings score to win in women's Test history so there would be pretty long odds on a 2 wicket victory. Extremely long now. Two outstanding performances from England - Ecclestone's 10 wickets in the match and Beaumont's highest individual score for an England Test team.
 

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Have been enjoying the women's Test and admit that it's the first time I've watched women (playing cricket, that is). There seem to be quite a lot of empty seats at Trent Bridge yet the TB website says it's been a record for ticket sales. A close contest in the first innings and England have just reached half way in their run chase but are also half way through their wickets! What do they call the nightwatchman now?
 

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Have been enjoying the women's Test and admit that it's the first time I've watched women (playing cricket, that is). There seem to be quite a lot of empty seats at Trent Bridge yet the TB website says it's been a record for ticket sales. A close contest in the first innings and England have just reached half way in their run chase but are also half way through their wickets! What do they call the nightwatchman now?
In the last ten years before this I reckon they have only played 6 home test matches (never more than one a year). Two at Taunton and Wormsley, one at Bristol and Canterbury. Opponents were Australia (3), India (2) and South Africa (1). I think this might be their first 5 day test match in this country. Maybe there will be more in future?
 

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After two days at Grace Road:

Durham 517/6d
Leics 335/4

Before the start of day 3 England released Matt Potts, and he has been allowed to join the Durham team as a substitute for Stanley McAlindon.

Since when were substitutions (other than concussion and the nonsense in the IPL) allowed?

It feels inherently unfair that Durham can bring in a fresh bowler with 6 first innings wickets standing - I don't agree with substitutions at all, but if they are going to happen surely the only fair time for them to happen is after both teams have completed their first innings?

Meanwhile, England have stuck with the thoroughly objectionable Ollie Robinson for the second test
 

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Daniel Bell-Drummond, ever heard of him?
Me neither, scored 300 not out batting @ 3 for Kent against Northamptonshire this weekend, looked him up on the interweb and found that he's 29 can also bowl and has been used as an emergency wicky a couple of times. He's English and has played for the England Lions.
Be a good choice for the 3rd Test!
 

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Daniel Bell-Drummond, ever heard of him?
Me neither, scored 300 not out batting @ 3 for Kent against Northamptonshire this weekend, looked him up on the interweb and found that he's 29 can also bowl and has been used as an emergency wicky a couple of times. He's English and has played for the England Lions.
Be a good choice for the 3rd Test!
I've known about him for many years. I'm surprised he never made it into the England setup other than for the Lions. I though would've be given a chance for England as an opener because they haven't been the strongest in that department for a while.
 

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I've known about him for many years. I'm surprised he never made it into the England setup other than for the Lions. I though would've be given a chance for England as an opener because they haven't been the strongest in that department for a while.
He can't be any worse than his team mate Zak Crawley can he?
 

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I've known about him for many years. I'm surprised he never made it into the England setup other than for the Lions. I though would've be given a chance for England as an opener because they haven't been the strongest in that department for a while.
He came to prominence for Kent when making his debut for Kent in an Ashes summer. and Kent's match against the touring side happened to take place just before the first (?) test and three of the Aussie fast bowlers were being tested to narrow down their choice in preparation. DB-D scored a fine century and was the most impressive Kent batsman on display. Alastair Cook had done the same sort of thing for Essex on an earlier tour which led to his coming into test selection focus, but Daniel seems to have missed out. Very few black players seem to make it for England compared to an earlier period, Jofra Archer being an obvious exception, but his talent and speed would have been hard to ignore. I'd like to see Bell-Drummond assume the Kent captaincy for the championship, he'd be able to lead by example far better than Sam Billings. Why oh why did Kent let the other Ollie Robinson go to second division Durham? Utter madness.
 

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In reply to the second part above, fourteen wickets fell on the first day with Lancashire recovering to reach an all out total of 274 and Surrey being 70-4 at close of play.
It is worth noting that on the second day, Surrey were 230-9 at one time, then a 10th wicket stand of 130 by tail-enders Abbott and Worrall saw them reach an all-out first innings total of 360.
 

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I've known about him for many years. I'm surprised he never made it into the England setup other than for the Lions. I though would've be given a chance for England as an opener because they haven't been the strongest in that department for a while.
He was dropped from the red ball team a little while ago. He now has one century and one 50 in 10 first class cricket innings this year. And I should add that there is a big difference between the Northants attack and the Aussies.

I'd like to see Bell-Drummond assume the Kent captaincy for the championship
I think that's a good call. f I remember rightly he captioned the county in some white ball games a few years ago. We seemed to do OK, I would prefer him to Leaning as I suspect he responds more to responsibility.

A possible name for a future Lions tour (although it will depend on which part of the world it is visiting) is Tawanda Muyeye; much too early yet, but worth bearing in mind.

More generally James Rew (Somerset) seems to be having a good season.
 

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Dan Lawrence was withdrawn from the Essex team v Warwickshire and replaced by Nick Browne. As Warwickshire followed on and Essex won by 9 wickets he was not asked to bat. He did not bowl either, however he is the specialist short leg fielder and the question was asked in the ground that a substitute cannot keep wicket, can an objection be raised to being a close fielder.
 

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Sounds like Bairstow and Stokes did some excellent fielding to remove some oil protesters off to the boundary. I’m sure there’ll be some imaginative sports headlines tomorrow.
 

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Sounds like Bairstow and Stokes did some excellent fielding to remove some oil protesters off to the boundary. I’m sure there’ll be some imaginative sports headlines tomorrow.
A few gags are coming out.
 

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Day 3 at the Kia Oval, saw Lancashire score 293 all out in their second innings, leaving Surrey a figure of 208 to win with the remainder of day 3 and all of day 4 on their home ground, but in their second innings. they lost their first five wickets by the end of day 3 and in less than ten overs of the day 4 morning session, Surrey lost their remaining five wickets and were all out for 84.

Good second innings bowling returns by the Lancashire seam attack:-
Bailey ....... 16 - 4 - 48 - 5
Williams...10.3 - 3 - 23 - 4
 

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Oh well, look forward to both players being put through the mill by the cricketing establishment. Wasn't your job to do that etc etc.
 

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