CrossCountry HST Diagrams

[Rich McLean]

Properly due to divert via Lichfield. This coming Saturday it should be as well.

XC05 should end up at EC on Friday evening, so should do 1D00 EDB - GLC, 1V58 GLC - PNZ, 2C80 PNZ - PLY Saturday and 1S51 on Sunday.

Also, there is only one set available for traffic currently.

 

[sufian123]

XC05 should end up at EC on Friday evening, so should do 1D00 EDB - GLC, 1V58 GLC - PNZ, 2C80 PNZ - PLY Saturday and 1S51 on Sunday.

Also, there is only one set available for traffic currently.

Fingers cross.

 

[class 9]

208/285 ran light engine(s) Laira to Neville Hill, these are going to be used for route learning various diversionary routes in Yorkshire and East Midlands in the coming weeks.

 

[TheWalrus]

Apologies if this has been answered elsewhere but do we have HST diagrams for the May change yet?

 

[Mojo]

Apologies if this has been answered elsewhere but do we have HST diagrams for the May change yet?

It’s been posted online by Richard Clinnick (editor of Rail Express magazine) that the XC HSTs are to be withdrawn from the May timetable change.

 

[yorksrob]

Ah, another one of our beneficent government's "improvements" to the rail service.

As I've mentioned on another thread, remember this at the ballot box. The railway won't improve until Rishie is flying head first out of the door of number 10.

 

[dk1]

It’s been posted online by Richard Clinnick (editor of Rail Express magazine) that the XC HSTs are to be withdrawn from the May timetable change.

That’s the timetable change. Looks like the HST fleet will go in October.

 

[Wilts Wanderer]

That’s the timetable change. Looks like the HST fleet will go in October.

Always likely to be the outcome, when GWR are shutting down their operation which are based on Laira - either XC needed a new home for their sets, or it’s the inevitable death knell.

 

[dk1]

Always likely to be the outcome, when GWR are shutting down their operation which are based on Laira - either XC needed a new home for their sets, or it’s the inevitable death knell.

Yes it seems logical. I know it’s a shame but the writing was on the wall. I personally thought this would happen when other units in the Voyager family become available but then there are the two off-lease ex-Avanti 221s.

 

[yorkie]

This thread is for XC HST diagrams. There is another thread which may be of interest at the link below:

Cross Country HST withdrawals?

There are currently rumours circulating about that the XC HSTs will be starting to be taken off services after October this year? Supposedly Cross Country are to make an announcement soon regarding this.

www.railforums.co.uk

 

[Liam L]

Anyone know why https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:C71069/2023-03-22/detailed#allox_id=0 15:42 Birmingham to Bristol has been booked HST this week and how long this is going to possibly last for?

Thanks in advance

 

[Class172]

Anyone know why https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:C71069/2023-03-22/detailed#allox_id=0 15:42 Birmingham to Bristol has been booked HST this week and how long this is going to possibly last for?

Thanks in advance

There are currently engineering works north of Tiverton Parkway so the line is closed (I think to Weston-super-Mare and Castle Cary); I would imagine this is having an impact on the diagramming of stock.

 

[Halish Railway]

Anyone know why https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:C71069/2023-03-22/detailed#allox_id=0 15:42 Birmingham to Bristol has been booked HST this week and how long this is going to possibly last for?

Thanks in advance

There are currently engineering works north of Tiverton Parkway so the line is closed (I think to Weston-super-Mare and Castle Cary); I would imagine this is having an impact on the diagramming of stock.

The full diagram for this set is:
5V50 0533 Craigentinny T.&R.S.M.D to Edinburgh
1V50 0606 Edinburgh to Bristol Temple Meads
1Z49 1400 Bristol Temple Meads to Birmingham New Street
1V59 1542 Birmingham New Street to Bristol Temple Meads
1E63 1735 Bristol Temple Meads to Leeds
5G63 2120 Leeds to Neville Hill T&R.S.M.D

So it starts and ends its diagram at the same depots as normal.

 

[50002Superb]

There are currently engineering works north of Tiverton Parkway so the line is closed (I think to Weston-super-Mare and Castle Cary); I would imagine this is having an impact on the diagramming of stock.

Do you know when these works finish please?

 

[Class172]

Do you know when these works finish please?

I believe it should be back to a normal timetable this Friday.

 

[50002Superb]

I believe it should be back to a normal timetable this Friday.

That’s a relief!!

 

[gordiegb]

hey guys, I am an HST fan (naturally) and want to do Edinburgh (EDB) - Plymout (PLY) on XC HST on 29th April. Is there any way of finding out now which service is likely to be HST so I can get it booked? thanks!

 

[Peterthegreat]

hey guys, I am an HST fan (naturally) and want to do EDI - PLY on XC HST on 29th April. Is there any way of finding out now which service is likely to be HST so I can get it booked? thanks!

The 06.58 from Edinburgh is currently booked an HST on this date.

 

[gordiegb]

The 06.58 from Edinburgh is currently booked an HST on this date.

thank you!

 

[Mitchell Hurd]

thank you!

I don't mean to spoil your excitement but this is subject to an HST being available or no disruption as a Voyager can substitute for it, 4 coaches if you're very unlucky!

 

[irish_rail]

I don't mean to spoil your excitement but this is subject to an HST being available or no disruption as a Voyager can substitute for it, 4 coaches if you're very unlucky!

I had this recently on said service. Was cosy to say the least. Going to be interesting when the HSTs are gone for good.

 

[Liam L]

Good Evening, Just would like some confirmation that these are the correct diagrams for tomorrow.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Halish Railway]

Good Evening, Just would like some confirmation that these are the correct diagrams for tomorrow.

Thanks in advance.

Yes, both are HSTs

1st diagram - 43285+43301
2nd diagram - 43304+43378

 

[Liam L]

Yes, both are HSTs

1st diagram - 43285+43301
2nd diagram - 43304+43378

Thank you!

 

[yorkie]

Good Evening, Just would like some confirmation that these are the correct diagrams for tomorrow.

Thanks in advance.

The 1427 from Plymouth was meant to be for Edinburgh rather than York today. However it appears to have been cancelled at Exeter; anyone know what is happening to the set?

 

[43096]

The 1427 from Plymouth was meant to be for Edinburgh rather than York today. However it appears to have been cancelled at Exeter; anyone know what is happening to the set?

There's a 5Z77 in the platform at Exeter as I type. I'd suggest empty to Laira would be the favourite option.

 

[Jrocks]

The 1427 from Plymouth was meant to be for Edinburgh rather than York today. However it appears to have been cancelled at Exeter; anyone know what is happening to the set?

Set going empties back to Laira as 5Z77, problem with the doors at Totnes.

 

[louis97]

The 1427 from Plymouth was meant to be for Edinburgh rather than York today. However it appears to have been cancelled at Exeter; anyone know what is happening to the set?

It was actually a fresh set from Laira, as 1V48 was late. XC02 came to a stand near Dainton with interlock issues. Fitter joined the train at Newton Abbot, but unfortunately set was failed at Exeter. Laira strikes again...

 

[HamworthyGoods]

It was actually a fresh set from Laira, as 1V48 was late. XC02 came to a stand near Dainton with interlock issues. Fitter joined the train at Newton Abbot, but unfortunately set was failed at Exeter. Laira strikes again...

And your allegations against Laira are based on what?

As the other depots which are still maintaining HSTs (Haymarket and Inverness) are achieving far lower levels of reliability I’m not sure how your allegations are founded and you may wish to reconsider.

Maintaining a largely end of life fleet using obsolete parts is not an easy job. It’s been several years now since any other depot did HST maintenance (it’s been 22 months now since Neville Hill did) and in that time a number of suppliers have shutdown or no longer support HSTs.

 

[irish_rail]

And your allegations against Laira are based on what?

As the other depots which are still maintaining HSTs (Haymarket and Inverness) are achieving far lower levels of reliability I’m not sure how your allegations are founded and you may wish to reconsider.

Maintaining a largely end of life fleet using obsolete parts is not an easy job. It’s been several years now since any other depot did HST maintenance (it’s been 22 months now since Neville Hill did) and in that time a number of suppliers have shutdown or no longer support HSTs.

+ 1. Laira has done an excellent job over the years, far better than the likes of Haymarket.