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Donald Trump and the aftermath of his presidency
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DerekC
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Yes, and founder of the Trump Dynasty - hereditary rulers of the Trump States of America.Not King... Emperor-for-life.
Bantamzen
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And this is the thing that really gets me. Trump incites his gun toting supporters to storm Capitol Hill, using the 2nd Amendment as cover. Except the Trump supporters weren't armed because Trump would not allow arms to his rallies...
'Merica...
I had the image of Trump naming his "won" Blue Wall states after himself. So Trumpsylvania, Trumpigan and Trumpsconsin.
And renaming a mountain outside Wakefield, PA, "Mount Trump", complete with a massive 100m plastic statue of himself on its summit, to celebrate his winning of the state and the city in 2016. Said statue would beam down lasers out of its eyes should someone attempt to trespass on the mountain in order to vandalise it.
Of course there was a secret back way up the mountain out of the statue's stare and in November 2020 a group of people finally got up there and cut off its electricity supply, before toppling it.
I've heard Trump criticise pro-Palestine protests at American universities this week.
So it's OK for him to storm the Capitol, but it's not OK for others to protest, of course.
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Peter Sarf
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I feel a thirteenth month coming on. After all Julius Caesar and Augustus Caesar added July and August to the previously ten month year. The new month "Trump" would be between July and August and be at least 51 days long......
Note the UK will be allowed to be the 51st State.
Note the UK will be allowed to be the 51st State.
"Allowed", or "forced to be"?
Hopefully Sunak (who might be amenable to such a thing) will have gone by the time there is the possibility of Trump being in power.
Busaholic
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Hot so much AI, I think it might be Goldwater of Texas come back to haunt us. A definite nut-job.
I had the image of Trump naming his "won" Blue Wall states after himself. So Trumpsylvania, Trumpigan and Trumpsconsin.
And renaming a mountain outside Wakefield, PA, "Mount Trump", complete with a massive 100m plastic statue of himself on its summit, to celebrate his winning of the state and the city in 2016. Said statue would beam down lasers out of its eyes should someone attempt to trespass on the mountain in order to vandalise it.
Of course there was a secret back way up the mountain out of the statue's stare and in November 2020 a group of people finally got up there and cut off its electricity supply, before toppling it.
I've heard Trump criticise pro-Palestine protests at American universities this week.
So it's OK for him to storm the Capitol, but it's not OK for others to protest, of course.
The right are the ones that push the great replacement theory and it was Trump who supported people marching and chanting 'the jews will not replace us' so it's quite rich to suddenly attack the pro-peace protests (which were sit down protests as far as I could see, for the most part*). Trump's Truth Social post saying Biden hates Jews finished by saying he hated Palestinians even more, which didn't make sense except that he realised it might otherwise be seen that Biden was actually supportive of the plight in Gaza - so wrote something nonsensical.
It's ironic because the USA has given unrivaled support to Israel and supplies weapons.
* Like in the UK, a minority of Zionists tried to cause trouble by entering with jumpers with Jew and Israel, and the star, on them - but from what has been shown, nobody took the bait - most likely because a lot of Jewish people are in those protests and, contrary to what some are saying, they're not protesting their support for Hamas - but the safety of the citizens.
It seems to be that many on the right are quite happy to be generically anti-Semitic when it suits their aims, but woe betide you if you criticise the bombing of Gaza.
birchesgreen
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Many on the right are extreme evangelical Christians who want the end of the world which they think war in Israel will facilitate as they think that will bring about the Rapture.
If there were free and fair elections, many have pointed out that the UK (given us population) would shift the power week away from the Republicans (you think the Tories are right wing and they are probably on a par with the Democrats) - of course many would argue that the American system hasn't been free and fair for some time and a second Trump term would likely make it even less so.
The Rapture is only one possible outcome and is based on a limited number of verses and even then isn't overtly clear. Unlike concepts like the need to love others (especially those who have done wrong) - but given that some American preachers can say that a woman wearing short trousers are "asking for it" I'm not sure their Bible knowledge is that good.
(On the plus side, when a judge started that someone was guilty of assaulting a woman, where there had been underaged drinking, but because of the 4 year minimum term declared not guilty he was removed as being a judge - so there's some hope).
What does the Bible have to do with American Evangelical Christianity
Probably very little.
American evangelical "Christianity"'s First Commandment:
"Thou shalt have no other Gods than Donald J. Trump".
and the Second:
"Thou shalt exploit others for personal financial gain".
Plus the Third:
"Thou shalt decry all attempts at setting up state-run services as Communism".
And the Fourth:
"Thou shalt work to keep Trump's Own Country completely free of all immigrants".
gg1
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Don't forget the the fifth:
"Thou shalt describe thyself as 'pro life' whilst being vehemently opposed to both universal healthcare and gun control"
Gloster
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And the sixth:
’Thou shalt unquestionably believe and agree with the word of the Trump, even if it is the complete opposite to what he said previously.’
’Thou shalt unquestionably believe and agree with the word of the Trump, even if it is the complete opposite to what he said previously.’
Purple Train
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"Thou shalt politicise thy religion howsoever thou shalt choose, such that thy politics dominate, strangle, overtake, and conflate with thy religion."
It is a terrible indictment of what happens if you create an unquestionable culture of "follow the leader" where the leader is a preacher rather than God. Faith has a place in influencing one's politics, but politics should never influence or overrule one's faith.
It is a terrible indictment of what happens if you create an unquestionable culture of "follow the leader" where the leader is a preacher rather than God. Faith has a place in influencing one's politics, but politics should never influence or overrule one's faith.
Peter Sarf
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But surely Trump *IS* the messiah not some mere preacher......
Purple Train
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He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!
Peter Sarf
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Aw but the masses luv 'im !.
Actually the problem is enough of them do love him, he is untouchable.
birchesgreen
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However, not all evangelicals buy this stuff which is interesting and we should always remember.
Unfortunately very little.
Just to be clear, that's very little of the Bible - and mostly those bits which can be used (as they were written in a culture more closely aligned with that is the Taliban than the west) at face value rather than understanding the culture they were written in.
Indeed, there are likely to be quite a few.
One point that they get upset about, is where the pastor talks about for the people by the people, etc and then for him, by him, etc, the point is that by looking to God we should then understand how to love each other and therefore should be better at it than if we just do it by ourselves.
I suspect that they, like a lot of people, have probably heard bits and pieces (especially from those who use it to put people down) and so have a mixed understanding.
There'll be many who will agree that Trump is all about false profits (chiefly where he's been lying about the value of his businesses).
SteveP29
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Presumably it'll be coloured gold (not made of it)
I wish they'd all sod off and have a rapture on their own and leave us to get on with our lives unhindered
Indeed - made of plastic. And, illustrating the US right's hypocrisy, cheaply in the Far East, not in the USA.
Peter Sarf
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Oh but it sure is made of gold, trust me..........