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D_MTrains said:
Interesting.

It could be to do with the confirmed re-structuring of the meridians mentioned in the latest Modern Railway magazine. Apparently the sets are to go from a fleet of 4x4 car, 17x5 car and 6x7 car to 23x5 car and 4x7 car.

I mention this because it would certainly be better if all units were in the same livery to prepare for this and not have do deal with any coach anomalies.
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Yes certainly interesting stuff. So the 2 7-car 222s which are reduced from 7 to 5 will donate there 4 coaches to 222101-104, one each, so go to 5 cars then, thus removing 4-car 222 operation. Keeping 4 7-car 222s is sensible as they can be diagrammed on the busiest service (prob 3 out of 4 be diagrammed daily?) 3 first class coaches for the 7-car 222s is too much so let's hope one can be converted back to standard in them on the 4 which stay 7 cars. 222101-104 are quite wasteful as theses 4-car units have 1 1/2 first class coaches and even off peak std class can get busy due to the low capacity.
With the re-entry of 180110 (as a 4-car as mentioned on another thread) whether a 3rd 180 diagram will start soon, I believe it was planned for when these entered service there would be a third but only ever been two.
 
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D_MTrains said:
Interesting.

It could be to do with the confirmed re-structuring of the meridians mentioned in the latest Modern Railway magazine. Apparently the sets are to go from a fleet of 4x4 car, 17x5 car and 6x7 car to 23x5 car and 4x7 car.

I mention this because it would certainly be better if all units were in the same livery to prepare for this and not have do deal with any coach anomalies.
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This also means they could, in theory, operate the new train timetable if there are planned splits / joins.
 
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D_MTrains said:
Interesting.

It could be to do with the confirmed re-structuring of the meridians mentioned in the latest Modern Railway magazine. Apparently the sets are to go from a fleet of 4x4 car, 17x5 car and 6x7 car to 23x5 car and 4x7 car.

I mention this because it would certainly be better if all units were in the same livery to prepare for this and not have do deal with any coach anomalies.
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DannyMich2018 said:
Yes certainly interesting stuff. So the 2 7-car 222s which are reduced from 7 to 5 will donate there 4 coaches to 222101-104, one each, so go to 5 cars then, thus removing 4-car 222 operation. Keeping 4 7-car 222s is sensible as they can be diagrammed on the busiest service (prob 3 out of 4 be diagrammed daily?) 3 first class coaches for the 7-car 222s is too much so let's hope one can be converted back to standard in them on the 4 which stay 7 cars. 222101-104 are quite wasteful as theses 4-car units have 1 1/2 first class coaches and even off peak std class can get busy due to the low capacity.
With the re-entry of 180110 (as a 4-car as mentioned on another thread) whether a 3rd 180 diagram will start soon, I believe it was planned for when these entered service there would be a third but only ever been two.
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If this is happening, does that mean a further coach will be put into the full livery to match 222104?
 
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greatvoyager said:
If this is happening, does that mean a further coach will be put into the full livery to match 222104?
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No one knows! I think it’s most likely it will be put into interim livery to match the rest of the fleet. But that’s only speculation. They could totally do a 5th coach, but it could also cause confusion keeping the corporate livery when the 810s start and people assume it’s one of the new trains and it just turns out to be another dirty meridian inside!
 
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D_MTrains said:
No one knows! I think it’s most likely it will be put into interim livery to match the rest of the fleet. But that’s only speculation. They could totally do a 5th coach, but it could also cause confusion keeping the corporate livery when the 810s start and people assume it’s one of the new trains and it just turns out to be another dirty meridian inside!
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I doubt they’d run a unit with one coach in different livery to the rest, it’d look ridiculous!
 
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DannyMich2018 said:
Yes certainly interesting stuff. So the 2 7-car 222s which are reduced from 7 to 5 will donate there 4 coaches to 222101-104, one each, so go to 5 cars then, thus removing 4-car 222 operation. Keeping 4 7-car 222s is sensible as they can be diagrammed on the busiest service (prob 3 out of 4 be diagrammed daily?) 3 first class coaches for the 7-car 222s is too much so let's hope one can be converted back to standard in them on the 4 which stay 7 cars. 222101-104 are quite wasteful as theses 4-car units have 1 1/2 first class coaches and even off peak std class can get busy due to the low capacity.
With the re-entry of 180110 (as a 4-car as mentioned on another thread) whether a 3rd 180 diagram will start soon, I believe it was planned for when these entered service there would be a third but only ever been two.
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It is certainly interesting and probably also helps to prepare the timetable for the introduction of the 810's. There was a third 180 diagram in the Dec 2020 timetable but since May only 2 diagrams are known about.

Updated list:

Class 153:
153308 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153319 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153355 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153357 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153379 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153384 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo

Class 156:
156401 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156402 - Northern base with EMR branding
156403 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156404 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156405 - EMR outgoing livery
156406 - EMR outgoing livery
156408 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156410 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156411 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156413 - EMT regional blue (no red/orange EMT cab ends) with EMR Regional logo
156414 - EMT regional blue (no red/orange EMT cab ends) no branding
156415 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156470 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156473 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156497 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156498 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156907 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156407)
156909 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156409), Stored at Barrow Hill?
156912 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156412 but might have been renumbered back to 412 with prep for northern)
156916 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156416)
156917 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156417), Stored at Barrow Hill?
156918 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156418)
156919 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156419)
156922 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156422)

Class 158:
158770 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158773 - EMR outgoing livery
158774 - EMR outgoing livery
158777 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158780 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158783 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158785 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158788 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158799 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158806 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158810 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158812 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158813 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158846 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158847 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo - 'Lincoln Castle Explorer'
158852 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158854 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo - 'The Station Volunteer'
158856 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158857 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158858 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158862 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158863 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158864 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158865 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158866 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158889 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo

Class 170:
170273 - Full EMR Regional

170416 - Full EMR Regional
170417 - Full EMR Regional - 'the key worker'
170418 - Full EMR Regional
170419 - Full EMR Regional
170420 - Full EMR Regional

170503 - Full EMR Regional
170504 - Purple with WMR branding (returned to WMR)
170506 - Purple with WMR branding (returned to WMR)
170507 - Purple with WMR branding (returned to WMR)
170508 - Purple with WMR branding (returned to WMR)
170509 - Purple with WMR branding (returned to WMR)
170510 - Purple with WMR branding (returned to WMR)
170511 - Full EMR Regional
170515 - Full EMR Regional
170517 - Purple with WMR branding (returned to WMR)
170530 - Full EMR Regional
170531 - Full EMR Regional - Low Emissions Train branding (Ad Blue trial)
170532 - Full EMR Regional
170533 - Purple with WMR branding (returned to WMR)
170534 - Full EMR Regional

Class 180:
180109 - EMR outgoing livery
180110 - EMR outgoing livery (4 car unit)
180111 - EMR outgoing livery
180113 - EMR outgoing livery

Class 222:
222001 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo - 'The Entrepreneur Express'
222002 - EMR outgoing livery - 'The Cutlers' Company'
222003 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo - 'Tornado'
222004 - EMR outgoing livery - 'Children's Hospital Sheffield'
222005 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222006 - EMR outgoing livery - 'The Carbon Cutter'

222007 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222008 - EMR outgoing livery - 'Derby Etches Park'
222009 - EMR outgoing livery
222010 - EMR outgoing livery
222011 - EMR outgoing livery
222012 - EMR outgoing livery
222013 - EMR outgoing livery
222014 - EMR outgoing livery
222015 - EMR outgoing livery - '175 Years of Derby's Railways 1839-2014'
222016 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222017 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222018 - EMR outgoing livery
222019 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222020 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222021 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222022 - EMR outgoing livery - 'Invest in Nottingham'
222023 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo

222101 - EMR outgoing livery
222102 - EMR outgoing livery
222103 - EMR outgoing livery
222104 - Full EMR intercity

Class 360:
360101 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360102 - Full EMR Connect
360103 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360104 - Blue
360105 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360106 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360107 - Blue with EMR Connect branding - At Eastleigh
360108 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360109 - Blue
360110 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360111 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360112 - Full EMR Connect
360113 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360114 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360115 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360116 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360117 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360118 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360119 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360120 - Blue
360121 - Purple with no branding - At Eastleigh.

43300 is but still at Neville Hill.
43251, 257, 272, 274, 277 are with Colas Rail.
43290, 299 is being used on the NMT with Network Rail branding.
43050, 052, 054, 066, 076 are at Leicester (D.A.T.S).
43044, 048, 089 are now part of the 125 Group.
43046, 049, 047, 055, 058, 059, 083 are now with LSL
43043, 045, 060, 064, 073, 081, 082 are at Long Marston.
43238, 295, 305, 306, 307, 309, 310, 314, 316, 317, 318, 319, 320 are at Ely
43465, 468, 480, 484 are with Rail Adventure at Eastleigh
43296, 308, 423, 467 are with Rail Adventure at Willesden
43102 is now with the NRM at Shildon

Mk3's:
NL01, NL03 Scrapped/8 coaches to 125 group (3 from NL01, 5 from NL03)
NL04 Scrapped/1 coach sold to LSL
NL06, NL07, NL08, NL10, NL12, NL52, NL53, NL54, various spare 'red' vehicles from different sets have been scrapped.
NL11 Scrapped/3 coaches sold to LSL, 1 coach at Leicester for DATS
NL51, NL55, NL56, DY21, DY22, DY23 are at Ely
NL57, NL58 selected vehicles scraped, at Burton West Yard or Ely
ex EMT spares: 3 scrapped, 1 sold to LSL
shared spare buffet 40751 (between VTEC/LNER and EMT/R) is now owned by the Cambrian Heritage Railway and is at Oswestry.

Class 153's
153311, 376, 381, 383, 385 are stored at Burton West Yard
153310, 313, 318, 321, 326, 368, 372, 374, 382 are now with TFW (374 as spares)
153302 has been scraped
 
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It isn’t the interim livery, whilst it is a temporary solution solely for the launch of Connect back in May, it is still simply an evolution of the original corporate design (as seen on 222104).
 
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TT-ONR-NRN said:
102 and 112 are in the Interim EMR Connect livery, it is not Full EMR Connect. Full is what 121 has gone off to get.
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They are still in the full purple livery though. The only change so far seen is the yellow on the ends.
 
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Anyone know if 222015 has lost its cast nameplates as part of the relivery? I presume so as they would have been in the way of the vinyls.
 
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I spotted a freshly painted 360 waiting on the Hendon lines to be given access to Cricklewood this afternoon, I’m guessing that 107. Unfortunately I was driving at the time so a glimpse was all I got!
 
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Updated list:

Class 153:
153308 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153319 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153355 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153357 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153379 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153384 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo

Class 156:
156401 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156402 - Northern base with EMR branding
156403 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156404 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156405 - EMR outgoing livery
156406 - EMR outgoing livery
156408 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156410 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156411 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156413 - EMT regional blue (no red/orange EMT cab ends) with EMR Regional logo
156414 - EMT regional blue (no red/orange EMT cab ends) no branding
156415 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156470 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156473 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156497 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156498 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156907 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156407)
156909 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156409), Stored at Barrow Hill?
156912 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156412 - at Wolverton for prep for Northern)
156916 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156416)
156917 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156417), Stored at Barrow Hill?
156918 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156418)
156919 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156419)
156922 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156422 - at Wolverton for prep for Northern)

Class 158:
158770 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158773 - EMR outgoing livery
158774 - EMR outgoing livery
158777 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158780 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158783 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158785 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158788 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158799 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158806 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158810 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158812 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158813 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158846 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158847 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo - 'Lincoln Castle Explorer'
158852 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158854 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo - 'The Station Volunteer'
158856 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158857 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158858 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158862 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158863 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158864 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158865 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158866 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158889 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo

Class 170:
170273 - Full EMR Regional

170416 - Full EMR Regional
170417 - Full EMR Regional - 'the key worker'
170418 - Full EMR Regional
170419 - Full EMR Regional
170420 - Full EMR Regional

170502 - Purple with WMR branding (returned to WMR)
170503 - Full EMR Regional
170504 - Purple with WMR branding (returned to WMR)
170506 - Purple with WMR branding (returned to WMR)
170507 - Purple with WMR branding (returned to WMR)
170508 - Purple with WMR branding (returned to WMR)
170509 - Purple with WMR branding (returned to WMR)
170510 - Purple with WMR branding (returned to WMR)
170511 - Full EMR Regional
170515 - Full EMR Regional
170517 - Purple with WMR branding (returned to WMR)
170530 - Full EMR Regional
170531 - Full EMR Regional - Low Emissions Train branding (Ad Blue trial)
170532 - Full EMR Regional
170533 - Purple with WMR branding (returned to WMR)
170534 - Full EMR Regional

Class 180:
180109 - EMR outgoing livery
180110 - EMR outgoing livery (4 car unit)
180111 - EMR outgoing livery
180113 - EMR outgoing livery

Class 222:
222001 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo - 'The Entrepreneur Express'
222002 - EMR outgoing livery - 'The Cutlers' Company'
222003 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo - 'Tornado'
222004 - EMR outgoing livery - 'Children's Hospital Sheffield'
222005 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222006 - EMR outgoing livery - 'The Carbon Cutter'

222007 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222008 - EMR outgoing livery - 'Derby Etches Park'
222009 - EMR outgoing livery
222010 - EMR outgoing livery
222011 - EMR outgoing livery
222012 - EMR outgoing livery
222013 - EMR outgoing livery
222014 - EMR outgoing livery
222015 - EMR outgoing livery - '175 Years of Derby's Railways 1839-2014'
222016 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222017 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222018 - EMR outgoing livery
222019 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222020 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222021 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222022 - EMR outgoing livery - 'Invest in Nottingham'
222023 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo

222101 - EMR outgoing livery
222102 - EMR outgoing livery
222103 - EMR outgoing livery
222104 - Full EMR intercity

Class 360:
360101 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360102 - Full EMR Connect
360103 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360104 - Blue - At Eastleigh
360105 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360106 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360107 - Blue with EMR Connect branding - At Eastleigh
360108 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360109 - Blue
360110 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360111 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360112 - Full EMR Connect
360113 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360114 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360115 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360116 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360117 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360118 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360119 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360120 - Blue
360121 - Purple with no branding
 
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Apologies if it has already been mentioned but it looks like 156503 is back with EMR for a short while.
 
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222019 is now in the outgoing livery.

170512 returned to Tyseley from Crewe so is probably now in purple with WMR branding. 170513 has made it's way to Crewe today so is likely to be the next unit to be repainted.
 
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Don’t know if it’s been mentioned before, but I noticed that Gainsborough Lea Road has new EMR signage when going through it earlier (at least on Platform 2; Platform 1 seemed to be devoid of signage from what I could see).
 
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