EMR HST Diagrams

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darasafvatnia

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Hi guys,

I want to ride a HST from St Pancras to Leeds but the timetables don't say what services are HST anymore. Does anyone know the current HST diagrams for EMR?
 
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Hi guys,

I want to ride a HST from St Pancras to Leeds but the timetables don't say what services are HST anymore. Does anyone know the current HST diagrams for EMR?

Every EMR London to Leeds (and vice versa) service is an HST I think
 

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Hi guys,

I want to ride a HST from St Pancras to Leeds but the timetables don't say what services are HST anymore. Does anyone know the current HST diagrams for EMR?
Most of the time when there are engineering works/timetable changes ect the timetable that is put online wont show HST/MER but all the Leeds services will be a HST as posted above.
 

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It will be either this coming Friday or the weekend. Thanks.
Friday would probably be your best bet. Looking at realtimetrains.co.uk and the EMR website the London trains are only going between Leicester and Nottingham/Sheffield next weekend due to engineering works. This normally means only 222's are out but there looks to be a Leeds service on Sunday which would be a HST.
 

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Friday would probably be your best bet. Looking at realtimetrains.co.uk and the EMR website the London trains are only going between Leicester and Nottingham/Sheffield next weekend due to engineering works. This normally means only 222's are out but there looks to be a Leeds service on Sunday which would be a HST.
Yes I will go Friday as weekends are too unreliable. There is a direct service to Leeds Friday evening, I assume that is a HST
 

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Last time I got a Leeds train from STP it was a 222, but was swapped at Derby. This is quite unusual though and an alternative to cancelling the service.
 

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Friday would probably be your best bet. Looking at realtimetrains.co.uk and the EMR website the London trains are only going between Leicester and Nottingham/Sheffield next weekend due to engineering works. This normally means only 222's are out but there looks to be a Leeds service on Sunday which would be a HST.
IF MML blocked south of Leicester I wonder if this will result in an HST being routed into / out of Grantham to take displaced numbers across to ECML as happened a few weekends ago when the DMUs on the route got very crowded and it created potential social distancing problems?
 

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IF MML blocked south of Leicester I wonder if this will result in an HST being routed into / out of Grantham to take displaced numbers across to ECML as happened a few weekends ago when the DMUs on the route got very crowded and it created potential social distancing problems?
No idea. RealTimeTrains is still showing them as the working timetable but this weekends timetables are not on the EMR website yet.
 

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I remember last year asking EMR (when EMT) about the Leeds service. They said basically "The Leeds services have to be formed of an HST as Nevile Hill depot (Leeds that is) does not have the facilities to maintain our Class 222 fleet".
 

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Question- have the 222’s ever worked St Pancras-Leeds or vice versa since they arrived on MML back in 00’s?
 

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I remember last year asking EMR (when EMT) about the Leeds service. They said basically "The Leeds services have to be formed of an HST as Nevile Hill depot (Leeds that is) does not have the facilities to maintain our Class 222 fleet".

yeah. If they sent class 222 e it needs to be sent ECS to Etches Park.
 

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I remember last year asking EMR (when EMT) about the Leeds service. They said basically "The Leeds services have to be formed of an HST as Nevile Hill depot (Leeds that is) does not have the facilities to maintain our Class 222 fleet".
The £1000 question is why did you ask a TOC a question like that :lol:
 

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The £1000 question is why did you ask a TOC a question like that :lol:

That would help if I said why, yes - originally I was going to Leeds in late April 2019 but arriving at around midnight and one of the train trips at that point would have been the 22:48 from Derby to Leeds. However I was persuaded to go earlier in the day (had some common sense put into me). I went on the 04/04/19 instead :).
 

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I've been considering doing a trip on an EMR HST this coming weekend too... in case it's the last weekend this year that the weather's nice and I've got the opportunity, and who knows if they'll still be around next summer.

The Leicester / engineering works thing is a bit of a pain.

Is it a reasonable bet that Leicester-Nottingham services will be HST?
 

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I've been considering doing a trip on an EMR HST this coming weekend too... in case it's the last weekend this year that the weather's nice and I've got the opportunity, and who knows if they'll still be around next summer.

The Leicester / engineering works thing is a bit of a pain.

Is it a reasonable bet that Leicester-Nottingham services will be HST?
In the past when services have terminated at Leicester it has just been 222s out but looking at Sunday with one service to/from Leeds there may be one or two HSTs out then.
 

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In the past when services have terminated at Leicester it has just been 222s out but looking at Sunday with one service to/from Leeds there may be one or two HSTs out then.
Thanks. Weekend may not be a very good plan then.
 

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I've been considering doing a trip on an EMR HST this coming weekend too... in case it's the last weekend this year that the weather's nice and I've got the opportunity, and who knows if they'll still be around next summer.

The Leicester / engineering works thing is a bit of a pain.

Is it a reasonable bet that Leicester-Nottingham services will be HST?

I believe everything is booked 222 on Saturday, except the Skegness, but willing to be corrected.
 

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Current EMR HST diagrams-SX
Does anyone know if these HST Diagrams will be correct in the 1st week of October. I am looking to travel from STP to Nottingham 01-05 Oct and would like a 125 if possible.
 

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Does anyone know if these HST Diagrams will be correct in the 1st week of October. I am looking to travel from STP to Nottingham 01-05 Oct and would like a 125 if possible.
These will change this weekend with the timetable uplift and more HST's will run. Largely they will remain on the xx34 departures from London to Nottingham during the week.
 

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These will change this weekend with the timetable uplift and more HST's will run. Largely they will remain on the xx34 departures from London to Nottingham during the week.
Great Thank you.
 

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Does anyone have any inside information on when the full first class menu catering service returns to EMR now the full timetable is back? Currently there is still no catering except for a small bag.
 

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Does anyone have any inside information on when the full first class menu catering service returns to EMR now the full timetable is back? Currently there is still no catering except for a small bag.

The question has been answered here only this morning in this thread

 

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Not sure whether it was the powercars (ex. LNER) or the coaches (original EMT/EMR), but yesterday's 14:34 from Leeds to St. Pancras was very jerky when taking power. It was as if the engines were throttling up and down, with five to six big jolts every time power was took (it wasn't wheelslip AFAIK).
 

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Does anyone have a further update to this thread on the latest September hst diagrams for emr hsts please with the latest changes or have they remained the same.
 

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Does anyone have a further update to this thread on the latest September hst diagrams for emr hsts please with the latest changes or have they remained the same.
pretty much the same - fast Nottm trains are HSTs - a few thru / from leeds at start and end of day.

PDF timetable on EMR website indicates which ones are HST, usually reasonably relaible
 

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Taken from a group on Facebook these look to be the diagrams for Weekdays: Back to 9 sets out on Weekdays.

2+8 Sets:
1D07 0704 London to Nottingham
1B28 0945 Nottingham to London
1D58 1734 London to Nottingham

1C11 0531 Sheffield to London
1F63 1819 London to Sheffield

1C22 0746 Sheffield to London
1D28 1134 London to Nottingham
1B48 1345 Nottingham to London
1D53 1634 London to Nottingham
1B74 1845 Nottingham to London

1B23 0634 Leeds to London
1D23 1034 London to Nottingham
1B43 1245 Nottingham to London
1D48 1534 London to Nottingham
1B69 1745 Nottingham to London
1F70 2001 London to Leeds

1C13 0600 Sheffield to London
1F68 1935 London to Derby

1C15 0519 Leeds to London
1D18 0934 London to Nottingham
1B38 1145 Nottingham to London
1D43 1434 London to Nottingham
1b63 1645 Nottingham to London
1D66 1904 London to Leeds

1B09 0532 Nottingham to London
1D13 0834 London to Nottingham
1B33 1045 Nottingham to London
1D38 1334 London to Nottingham
1B58 1545 Nottingham to London
1D64 1834 London to Leeds

1B16 0711 Nottingham to London
1D33 1234 London to Nottingham
1B53 1445 Nottingham to London
1D90 1719 London to Derby

2+6 Set:
1C98 0731 Derby to London
1D21 1005 London to Nottingham
1C52 1400 Sheffield to London
1M40 1650 London to Corby
1P41 1837 Corby to London
1F72 2031 London to Derby
 
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