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Ex-EMR Class 180 at Widnes

Rail Quest

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Ex-EMR 180109 was transported from Ely to Widnes overnight last night. Does anyone know what the purpose of this is? I can't see this on any existing threads.

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harz99

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Hopefully being reinstated/repainted to bolster GC's ailing fleet, that location is an Alstom facility that undertakes such work.
 

Discuss223

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180110 was with them for a brief while. Do they really need more 180s?
I wouldn't have thought so given the fact that they have 12 units and only ten journeys per day to operate. Could it be being serviced ahead of leasing from a TOC? Possibly.
 

TT-ONR-NRN

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I’d personally think it a bit of a shame if they’d seen the last of passenger services. I know they’ve had their faults, but they’re still relatively new compared to the likes of Castle HSTs, and much more advanced.
 

harz99

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Some of GC's 180 fleet have recurring faults which all to often lead to last minute cancellations, or in some ways worse from a passenger pov, terminations en route at places like Retford/Peterborough/York as in recent weeks. 180114 being one of them.
 

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I know it's a bit off topic, but loco hauled 180 carriages would have been a great HST replacement.

In another world!
 

61653 HTAFC

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They do look similar to the MK5 carriages...
When the 175s and 180s were new, I always felt that from a passenger perspective they felt like an updated MK3. 156s are a more common comparison with 175s though due to the similar roles... and the shared manufacturer, albeit via a change in ownership.
 

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Does the unit still have the sheeting over the intermediate vestibules - supposedly to prevent water leaks?
 

D365

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I've heard a rumour that NR are sniffing around for a replacement for the NMT.
After all the expense of commissioning an ETCS installation for their ‘yellow’ Class 43s??
 
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Too far from an HST...
Surely replacing one life expired bit of kit with another near life expired bit of kit isn't a great move? Especially when the reliability of the latter is taken into consideration
 

Rail Quest

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Drag went ahead as planned. I missed what number 180 was dragged as I was in awe of the sound 37901 was making:
[URL directs to YouTube video of 37901 hauling the ex-EMR class 180 to Widnes]
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James Kevill

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I wonder why the Class 180s are being dragged to Alstom Widnes depot? Are they being stored away or to be repaired?
 

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