EX HST TRAIN SEATS (Updates and Pictures)

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Started my cleaning up today with the headrest which was quite grubby. The nice thing about leather compared to moquette is you bring it back to looking like new quite easily. I can see why a lot of bus companies now use leather or faux leather on their seats.
I use a cleaner and leather conditioner (which I use on my car) called Liquid Leather. The leather conditioner has softened the leather and has got rid of a deep scuff on the lower part of the head rest. I'll tackle the seat base cushion and backrest next...
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Started my cleaning up today with the headrest which was quite grubby. The nice thing about leather compared to moquette is you bring it back to looking like new quite easily. I can see why a lot of bus companies now use leather or faux leather on their seats.
I use a cleaner and leather conditioner (which I use on my car) called Liquid Leather. The leather conditioner has softened the leather and has got rid of a deep scuff on the lower part of the head rest. I'll tackle the seat base cushion and backrest next...
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Wow it’s looking like brand new! Thanks for sharing the brand I’ll order some off Amazon for my seats too!
 

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Finished deep cleaning the seat back and seat cushion this afternoon. I'm pleased how the leather cleaner and conditioner has really rejuvenated the cushions and headrest. My previous car had light grey, almost white leather trim in it and I became accustomed to trying to keep the seats clean! I'm going to put these away now and tackle the seat frame next and I need to find someone who can fabricate some legs for it.
@FirstclassHST if you're having trouble removing the seat cushions, I would just leave them in place for cleaning. I only removed the seat cushions because they came apart quite easily.
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Finished deep cleaning the seat back and seat cushion this afternoon. I'm pleased how the leather cleaner and conditioner has really rejuvenated the cushions and headrest. My previous car had light grey, almost white leather trim in it and I became accustomed to trying to keep the seats clean! I'm going to put these away now and tackle the seat frame next and I need to find someone who can fabricate some legs for it.
@FirstclassHST if you're having trouble removing the seat cushions, I would just leave them in place for cleaning. I only removed the seat cushions because they came apart quite easily.
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Yeah your right, do let me know when you find someone as I will need to also fabricate a frame for the double seats and a potential single seat. Also, The cushions look so clean!! Great job you should take a well deserved nap :)
 

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I've cleaned up the bare seat frame and have polished out a few of the scuffs on the side. I also got rid of a load of disgusting crumbs :oops: I'll probably get a local carpenter/joiner to make and attach some feet/legs to the base in like an H frame. It's not a big job but beyond my capabilities! Some dark/chocolate brown paint on the wood will blend it in quite nicely and look like it's part of the original seat.
 

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I've cleaned up the bare seat frame and have polished out a few of the scuffs on the side. I also got rid of a load of disgusting crumbs :oops: I'll probably get a local carpenter/joiner to make and attach some feet/legs to the base in like an H frame. It's not a big job but beyond my capabilities! Some dark/chocolate brown paint on the wood will blend it in quite nicely and look like it's part of the original seat.
Yeah your right I have to find someone local too or if your near London we could use the same guy? lol

That is true do keep me updated though as I’ll probably follow in your footsteps

Were there enough crumbs to make a cheesecake from though? :)

Hey guys!
Hope everyone’s well

just wanted to ask if I wanted to contact CFBOOTH in the future to try and get some train parts etc for my little collectors corner what would be the best way to do so? Whenever I contacted them regarding train seats they seemed quite unwilling and rigid. Would there be any specific techniques people use to get them to agree etc which I may be missing out?

many thanks
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just wanted to ask if I wanted to contact CFBOOTH in the future to try and get some train parts etc for my little collectors corner what would be the best way to do so? Whenever I contacted them regarding train seats they seemed quite unwilling and rigid. Would there be any specific techniques people use to get them to agree etc which I may be missing out?
To be honest I think the Booth's will only be willing to deal with people they know. Although they process stock a lot slower than Simms, they probably still don't have the time to deal with the general public. I think the responses you've previously got are your answer. Sorry to be negative!
I would suggest contacting sellers like the person we acquired our seats from and getting them to salvage any parts you want. Out of interest, what are you after? You could also set up an alert on the railwayana section of eBay.

That is true do keep me updated though as I’ll probably follow in your footsteps
I haven't yet found someone to install legs on my seat but I was thinking that these could potentially work if attached to the seat via a small wooden frame:
 

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To be honest I think the Booth's will only be willing to deal with people they know. Although they process stock a lot slower than Simms, they probably still don't have the time to deal with the general public. I think the responses you've previously got are your answer. Sorry to be negative!
I would suggest contacting sellers like the person we acquired our seats from and getting them to salvage any parts you want. Out of interest, what are you after? You could also set up an alert on the railwayana section of eBay.


I haven't yet found someone to install legs on my seat but I was thinking that these could potentially work if attached to the seat via a small wooden frame:
I agree with you I have dropped him a msg to ask , just after any HST first class stuff :)

They could work although it would be kind of hard to keep them stable on the ground since when you recline the seat they could potentially slide on hard floors?
 

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How about these as chair legs? I appreciate they aren't authentic but you may be able to attach them to the frame. I think a chair leg is needed rather than a table leg to ensure it can take the weight.

The other option might be a pre-assembled step, like this.
 
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How about these as chair legs? I appreciate they aren't authentic but you may be able to attach them to the frame. I think a chair leg is needed rather than a table leg to ensure it can take the weight.

The other option might be a pre-assembled step, like this.
Yeah that could be a good idea but what would the maximum weight capacity be? Would they be able to take a double train seat?

I have another question how much approximately would you say your single train seat weighs? (So that I could double that weight for my train seats) as I have no idea how much they weigh and the legs can only take up to 150 KG
To be honest I think the Booth's will only be willing to deal with people they know. Although they process stock a lot slower than Simms, they probably still don't have the time to deal with the general public. I think the responses you've previously got are your answer. Sorry to be negative!
I would suggest contacting sellers like the person we acquired our seats from and getting them to salvage any parts you want. Out of interest, what are you after? You could also set up an alert on the railwayana section of eBay.


I haven't yet found someone to install legs on my seat but I was thinking that these could potentially work if attached to the seat via a small wooden frame:
 

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True would you think my double train seats would weigh upto 150 kg or more? I have no idea since they are *super heavy*
It is the weight of the person (13 stone is 82.5kg) sitting on the seats that is likely to be the issue, then the frame, not the seats as such. Two supports each suitable for carrying 150kg should be more than sufficient - just check the dimensions of the frame relative to the platform on any step you consider.
 

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It is the weight of the person (13 stone is 82.5kg) sitting on the seats that is likely to be the issue, then the frame, not the seats as such. Two supports each suitable for carrying 150kg should be more than sufficient - just check the dimensions of the frame relative to the platform on any step you consider.
Yeah your right because 2 supports could distribute the weight evenly to give up to 300 kg support which may be sufficient enough for people to sit on the seats
 

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The other option might be a pre-assembled step, like this.
Thanks for the suggestion. I've just ordered that from Tool Station. For less than £20 it's worth a try, even as a temporary solution. I've got the rather less heavy single and a base like this could work. I'll update the thread when it's delivered.

They could work although it would be kind of hard to keep them stable on the ground since when you recline the seat they could potentially slide on hard floors?
The recline on my seat actually doesn't lock in place - a common fault when these were in service! The default position is reclined which I'm happy with.
I've now got the seat frame cleaned up and managed to polish out some of the scuffs from the plastic side trim (probably where it had been bashed with a catering trolley!)
 
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Thanks for the suggestion. I've just ordered that from Tool Station. For less than £20 it's worth a try, even as a temporary solution. I've got the rather less heavy single and a base like this could work. I'll update the thread when it's delivered.


The recline on my seat actually doesn't lock in place - a common fault when these were in service! The default position is reclined which I'm happy with.
I've now got the seat frame cleaned up and managed to polish out some of the scuffs from the plastic side trim (probably where it had been bashed with a catering trolley!)
Oh right I need to know the weight of my seats but I have no idea lol

the recline on my seats seems jammed so I would need to get that fixed too in the future I can’t really say for sure until there’s a stable base underneath the seats
 

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the recline on my seats seems jammed so I would need to get that fixed too in the future I can’t really say for sure until there’s a stable base underneath the seats
Unfortunately I would often have to play musical chairs to find a seat with a functioning recline during the latter days of HSTs on GWR.
Here's what my set looks like underneath IMG_3805.jpg(post cleaning)
 

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Unfortunately I would often have to play musical chairs to find a seat with a functioning recline during the latter days of HSTs on GWR.
Here's what my set looks like underneath View attachment 95919(post cleaning)
First of all, LOVE THE CLEAN SEAT, second of all, your missing the hydrologic pump which does the seat recline I’ve attached a photo to show what’s not there ( I’m still no expert lol) I ordered some FGW standard class fabric 2 meters and i will make a cushion and mini throw to go with my seats!

First of all, LOVE THE CLEAN SEAT, second of all, your missing the hydrologic pump which does the seat recline I’ve attached a photo to show what’s not there ( I’m still no expert lol) I ordered some FGW standard class fabric 2 meters and i will make a cushion and mini throw to go with my seats!
You might be able to get one made form a furniture maker although I think we could live without it too :)
 

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Thanks for that picture - useful to know what's missing! The footstool arrived today and was worth a try (I actually needed to buy one anyway) but isn't really a workable solution. Something actually attached to the seat to act as a stabiliser is the way forward.
I like your idea of the First Great Western moquette - that's a nice touch. I have some moquette cushions (London Transport) which accessorise the seat nicely.
 

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Thanks for that picture - useful to know what's missing! The footstool arrived today and was worth a try (I actually needed to buy one anyway) but isn't really a workable solution. Something actually attached to the seat to act as a stabiliser is the way forward.
I like your idea of the First Great Western moquette - that's a nice touch. I have some moquette cushions (London Transport) which accessorise the seat nicely.
Wow that looks quite nice , no problem :) more than happy to help. Yeah no for my double seats I might need to fabricate something instead due to the sheer weight of them! Especially when you factor in people sitting on them in the future too!

Thanks! I’ll upload a picture when it’s on the seat and has arrived! :)
 

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