BlythPower
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Anyone know why they're starting to be moved from storage in Donnington back down to Eastleigh? Two more moving today (making a total of four) reported on the WNXX forum.
Didn't know South Eastern ever had 508's, though they were all limited to Womble territory.
I think they should have used them on Brighton coastway services and Lymington
and let the 25kv 313 go to where they could be better used
I wish I was the fat controller I would organise the railways better then them
They are apparently in appalling mechanical condition (well some)
They are apparently in appalling mechanical condition (well some)
The exact reason why SET got rid of them when they did in December 2006 ...
508/2s were making a Notworker look uber reliable ...
It's quite shameful that they haven't been maintained properly.....
SE seem to treat their rolling stock badly in comparison to Southern....
Those are very contentious statements, please quantify them....
Totally agree with the above - Southern should have given the 508's a full (above and below solebar) overhaul and refurb and put those to use on the Coastway. This would have freed up those 313 units for FCC.
Are the ex-Silverlink 508 units also stored? These didn't seem as unreliable as SouthEastern's units so maybe it was down to maintenance..
Why is it short sighted to use more reliable units than unreliable units?!
Why is it short sighted to use more reliable units than unreliable units?!
Well they would have been overhauled wouldn't they? The 313s are actually older than the 508s. They have identical traction motors and other equipment. They spent several years out of service at Merseyrail, so will have clocked up less mileage. There is no logical reason why the 508s can't be made to be as reliable as the 313s. I stand by what I said. They are only 32 years old, the oldest 101s were 47 years old when they were taken out of service and they were DMUs which have a supposedly shorter lifespan than EMUs.
I don't quite see how most of that is relevant at all.
101s were in service for 47 years. Cool story.
The 508s are f*****, so why would you take them over 313s which are in better condition?
The fact that they share parts is completely irrelevant, one type can still be in bad condition!
Also, have you looked at the fact that there are 12 508/3s and 19 313s with Southern? Doesn't quite work does it? Even with an extra 3(?) LO 508s
The 508s are f*****, so why would you take them over 313s which are in better condition?
Still a poor show they are in store when there are a lot of services out of whatever SR terminal you wish to choose are full and standing in the peak formed of four coaches vice six or eight due to 'lack of stock'. Even if you only used ten out of the fifteen and kept them in pairs, five pairs of 508s could replace five single 455s wkgs then used to strengthen others so thats ten trains strengthened and a lot more extra seats provided.
Ps can/could they work in multi with 455s/456s?