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Fawley Branch - Passenger Services?

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hants-man

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Probably still a fair few years away, especially given the current financial situation.

A press release from the Hampshire County Council website:

A viability study for the re-introduction of passenger trains on a branch line between Southampton and the Waterside area has been given the go-ahead by Hampshire County Council.

Following completion of the GRIP 2 study (Governance for Railway Investment Projects) - which established a business case for a passenger line serving Totton, Hounsdown, Marchwood and Hythe - Hampshire County Council and its partners* have agreed to take the next step in an eight stage process towards bringing the Waterside line back into use for passenger rail travel.

The rail line is currently in use for freight trains only and this next technical study (GRIP 3) will focus on: identifying the infrastructure that would be needed to enable the rail line to be brought into passenger use; calculating passenger demand; and determining how the scheme could be funded.

Councillor Mel Kendal, Executive Member for Environment and Transport, commented: "There is no doubt that there is potential for the development of the rail network in South Hampshire and we have had some very constructive discussions with Network Rail and South West Trains on this matter.

"The outcome of the GRIP 2 study has enabled us to develop a business case for the development of the Waterside line but there is still a great deal of technical work to be done and detail to be worked through so we are still some years away from opening the line to passengers. Nonetheless what we have established so far is encouraging and I can see that a Waterside rail line could help enormously in reducing congestion on the A326. Tackling congestion to keep all areas of Hampshire moving is a key priority for us, and we will continue to investigate any options which will improve travel and offer more choice for local residents and businesses A rail line in this area would complement the existing public transport services available in the area and offer local residents greater choice and flexibility for travel."

Passenger rail services ceased on the existing freight only line in 1966. The case for re-opening the line to passenger services is based on providing an hourly shuttle between Hythe and Southampton Central where passengers would be able to connect to services running to the West, East, London and beyond. An hourly service would mean one train an hour back and forth with a journey time of 23 minutes each way. It is not envisaged that the passenger service would extend to Fawley as this would increase the journey time to over 30 minutes each way and prevent the running of an hourly service.

The GRIP 3 study will start in the Spring. A report on the findings will then be considered by Transport for South Hampshire before any agreement is made regarding moving to stage 4 in the GRIP process.

*Waterside rail partners are Hampshire County Council, New Forest District Council, New Forest National Park Authority, Hythe and Dibden Parish Council and Marchwood Parish Council.

http://www3.hants.gov.uk/hantswebne...e=Step closer to passenger rail for Waterside
 
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Hmmm... Marchwood still has a platform at least. All crossings bar the Marchwood one and Hythe's School Road are automatic: the two mentioned are manual. There are semaphores at Marchwood which are worked from the cabin on the platform and there is also a small building next to the School Road LC. I think max speed is 30 on the branch? Arguably a better avaerage sometimes than the A326! However, will punters prefer to spend 23 minutes on the train or take the Hythe pier train then the ferry to Town Quay and free bus or walk? It's a nice idea but really the service should get down to Fawley to make it worthwhile.
 

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There's a section on this proposal in the London and SE RUS. (Page 215)

It gives a fairly decent explanation of the possibilities, but basically puts the problem firmly into Hants CC's hands, so it'll probably come down to NR will do it only if someone else funds everything...
 

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Why can't the current Salisbury Six be revised to run to Fawley via Eastleigh? I realise that Dean and Mottisfont & Dunbridge will have a less direct service into Southampton, but the service will still be there (and they can change at Romsey if they are that worried). The FGW service would still use the fast route.

This way, Fawley can receive a service, and the entire area can also have a service to Salisbury to provide better connections with locations to the west (for the two passengers per day that want to travel that way :lol:).
 

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Is there still a T-cup train that starts at Totton at 06.00 or so?

I am sure that it was only a few years ago that the e possibility of running a Fawley-Salisbury service was last discussed. Certainly the resuscitation of the passenger service on the branch has been a regular proposal for a long time, but it always seems to be rejected. Will SWT be more interested than they have been in the past?
 

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Hampshire County Council have just recently cut bus subsidies for the area, causing Bluestar to run a greatly reduced service, Bluestar are blaming HCC (rightly so) and HCC are saying that they spent a long time investigating the needs of the passengers in the Waterside area, this means there are no evening or Sunday buses on some routes, and others have been cut back to Rushington only.

Does this show that there probably isn't a need for more ways of getting to/from Waterside as the bus service was too much anyway and got cut back? Or is it cheaper to run a rail service instead of subsidise the buses.

(Source is from Bluestar facebook page at the last timetable change)
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Is there still a T-cup train that starts at Totton at 06.00 or so?
Yes, starts at Totton at 0612 and runs to Romsey via Eastleigh.
http://traintimes.im/rail-service/W81735/2012/01/31/
 
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